454ragtop
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Picked up a Reed 106 today, good shape, but it's missing the handle. Anybody want to measure their handle? Appears to be 7/8" diameter, just like to verify and get an idea on length.
Thank you, Jim
Thank you, Jim
The VISES of Garage Journal
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Low Friction
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Obviously a typo...He must have meant $50 OBO!
gatewaysysop
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I get just a hair shy of 7/8" diameter, 16" from tip to tip on the ball ends of the handle, at least on mine!
Thanks for taking the time and adding the information and photos to ever growing thread. There are some beauties there
I get just a hair shy of 7/8" diameter, 16" from tip to tip on the ball ends of the handle, at least on mine!
Oh!! That's nice!! I have that same model!! Mine needs de rusting but it also is nice.
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And a couple more of my current project, a 91 pound (Morgan Chicago 150). This one has a brass tag with the #14 and the words "Even Cut Abrasives". The tag must have been installed by the company to keep track of the tools. I plan on leaving the tag on and polishing the brass. This moster will be brought back to its origal condition by painting it tool gray like the chicago Morgans came when the factory was located in Chicago.
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Outlawmws
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Made for Wards, but there were a bunch of "Lakeside" this or that companies WAY back in the day, and I'm not sure if wards simply sold that brand or trademarked it like sears does for Craftsman and the like.
Adam McLaughlin
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I get just a hair shy of 7/8" diameter, 16" from tip to tip on the ball ends of the handle, at least on mine!
Sharp Looking job, kudos
Adam
NH Gearhead
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I'd like to give a quick shout out to GJB member "KMScott"...
He sent me a nice set of replacement jaws for my mystery-vise, and with a bit of finessing I was able to get away from the oddball 3-3/4" bolthole spacing and convert it to the Wilton-standard 4" spacing.
I can't describe how much nicer it has been working with a vise where the jaws don't flop all around and fall out of position. Guess I've been putting up with it for so long that I just stopped getting irritated by it.
Anyway, she's no beauty queen but she's back in service and working great for a minimal cash (and time) outlay..... now I can get back to the real projects in my garage!!!
-G
He sent me a nice set of replacement jaws for my mystery-vise, and with a bit of finessing I was able to get away from the oddball 3-3/4" bolthole spacing and convert it to the Wilton-standard 4" spacing.
I can't describe how much nicer it has been working with a vise where the jaws don't flop all around and fall out of position. Guess I've been putting up with it for so long that I just stopped getting irritated by it.
Anyway, she's no beauty queen but she's back in service and working great for a minimal cash (and time) outlay..... now I can get back to the real projects in my garage!!!
-G
KMScott
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NH Gearhead
Oh it is great to see that you fit those smooth jaws. It is not the easiest project to tackle since the 5/16:18 threads overlap the original threads by a 1/32, lining the jaw in the vise is not easy in it's self especially with out access to a machine shop. Good job. I was a little worried.
Kevin
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Oh it is great to see that you fit those smooth jaws. It is not the easiest project to tackle since the 5/16:18 threads overlap the original threads by a 1/32, lining the jaw in the vise is not easy in it's self especially with out access to a machine shop. Good job. I was a little worried.
Kevin
https://wiltonviseparts.net
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NH Gearhead
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Scott,
You know.....the whole time while I was struggling to hold 1/2 a vise in my bare hand with a drill in the other and keep everything straight I kept mumbling to myself:
"This would be much easier if I had a vise!"
Catch-22..... though it looks like most of the guys in this thread have more than one vise, so this kind of project would be easy. I'm seriously space-constrained as it is in my workshop, so doubling-up on tools is frowned upon.
-G
You know.....the whole time while I was struggling to hold 1/2 a vise in my bare hand with a drill in the other and keep everything straight I kept mumbling to myself:
"This would be much easier if I had a vise!"
Catch-22..... though it looks like most of the guys in this thread have more than one vise, so this kind of project would be easy. I'm seriously space-constrained as it is in my workshop, so doubling-up on tools is frowned upon.
-G
KMScott
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G
Check out how space constrained I am, I have a 900 sqft shop that has half of it a woodworking shop and the other 1/2 a machine shop. Just about every machine is on wheels including my surface grinder.
Kevin
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NH Gearhead
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I would commit murder for 900 sq ft!
My "space" is 1/2 of a two-car garage.... and the vehicle I am working on is on jackstands in the middle of it. A garage day for me involves sweet-talking the missus into moving her car out of the other bay so that I can allow my tools and materials to "spill over" into her 12' x 24" space (288 sq ft)...
At least when the weather turns nicer, I can utilize the outdoor spaces a bit more for sandblasting, painting parts, etc.
It's far from ideal..... I think my productivity is roughly 30% of what it would be in a sensibly-sized workshop. Not complaining though... I'm just happy whenever I get a chance to tinker out there.
-G
My "space" is 1/2 of a two-car garage.... and the vehicle I am working on is on jackstands in the middle of it. A garage day for me involves sweet-talking the missus into moving her car out of the other bay so that I can allow my tools and materials to "spill over" into her 12' x 24" space (288 sq ft)...
At least when the weather turns nicer, I can utilize the outdoor spaces a bit more for sandblasting, painting parts, etc.
It's far from ideal..... I think my productivity is roughly 30% of what it would be in a sensibly-sized workshop. Not complaining though... I'm just happy whenever I get a chance to tinker out there.
-G
Mark in Indiana
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In my 2 car garage, I have so many toys in it, I have to walk sideways to get around. With that, I can still do my projects.
Now, I just bought a vise from a scrapper for $50.00. It's an Athol 324 1/2 X. Does anyone know how old it is? Can anyone provide some history about the Athol vises?
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Now, I just bought a vise from a scrapper for $50.00. It's an Athol 324 1/2 X. Does anyone know how old it is? Can anyone provide some history about the Athol vises?
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Mark in Indiana
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Hello again Vise Friends,
Here are the before & after pictures of a Columbian #504 that I reassembled last night. I bought it from a neighbor for $30.00. He let me go through his garage and attic as an American Picker. BTW, Thanks to all who gave me some history information a while back.
Here are the before & after pictures of a Columbian #504 that I reassembled last night. I bought it from a neighbor for $30.00. He let me go through his garage and attic as an American Picker. BTW, Thanks to all who gave me some history information a while back.
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Catalyze
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Mark - very nice find!! A combo Athol is not the most common vise around. Yours is pre WWII and I would guess maybe late 30's. Good luck and have fun with that old beast.
Craig
Craig
Mark in Indiana
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Hey Craig,
Thanks for the compliment. It may not get nominated for a "you **** award", but I'm very happy with the purchase.
I agree that it maybe from the 30s because the styling looks like my Charles Parker 205. However, I read that Starret bought Athol in 1905. This article stated that the Athol vises without the Starret name were made before 1905. I wonder if that's true.
I also wonder what the "X" means in the model number?
RivennHewn
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PM me. The PDF is too big to post. I can email it to you.
coolreed
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KM Scott,..that looks like a very cool shop to me. Alot of capabilities.
Your shop has 'soul'. Well done.
Your shop has 'soul'. Well done.
demoman
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Here is a very cool Williamson Mfg 5" vise I picked up last fall. Made in Bradford PA. I have never seen another like it in that one handle locks the bottom swivel and top swivel at the same time. Someone welded the front jaw back on years ago and the weld kept it from closing all the way so they put a spacer on the front jaw. I will machine the weld down and get rid of the spacer. Has anyone ever seen another like this? I have a parker that is similar but not the one handle lock.
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gabbyduffy
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I was taking apart my Morgan Chicago 150 and found what looks like to be a brass fitting that has threads inside for the screw. This is the first time I've ever seen a vise with a brass fitting like this...... Is this common in large vises????.......whats the reason for using brass?????........
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454ragtop
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What threads onto that external thread? First thought I had was the cast nut stripped, and it was machined to take the shop made brass insert, but don't know where that ext thread would fit into that theory.
Jim
fullthrottle24
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Based on fact that the vise had that brass tag on outside, I would think it came from a machine shop. That was probably a scrap piece with external threads that some just used. Are the cast nuts threads messed up? That's all got.
mcmlvif100
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Kevin's garage = the place where beautifully machined new / replacement vise jaws come from.
Can't help but admire your work whenever I use my Wilton 9450.
Thanks again.
KMScott
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You are too kind, it really isn't a job. I enjoy building stuff like everyone else here in GJ.
Kevin
Kevin
That is really neat! Very interesting how it locks both at the same time, cool.
coolreed
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Finally found a Baby Wilton for a good price. It works good but a little ugly.
This is before;
Then I did a minor restoration.
What a contrast to my Wilton 800S
This is before;
Then I did a minor restoration.
What a contrast to my Wilton 800S
I just got this Athol 613 1/2 off that auction website. It's in pretty nice original condition and definitely has not been abused during its life. Has a lot of what looks to be original paint on it. Very smooth operation. The only "downside" to it is the angled part on the bottom where the work table or bench would need to be clearanced to allow that angled part to fit so the flange would sit flush with the end of the table/bench. Other than that, it's a nice solid (and rather heavy for the size) vise.
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sstruckguy
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Finally found a Baby Wilton for a good price.
Then I did a minor restoration.
AAaaww...cute little fellah
bobkentnova
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I believe my dad had that same vise. I passed it on to a good friend; he and his wife helped me get his house ready for sale (it was in the middle of a DIY kitchen remodeling job).
Jon,
I had a big 2X Parker that had that 45 degree growth underneath. My machinist cut that out to a 90 degree that vise rested even with the bench. This is the after. I cannot find the before photo.
Catalyze
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Demoman - very nice unusual vise! I have never seen one like it before...just the 2 handle lockdown models.
Baby Wiltons - I am beginning to think that there is no "low price" for them....just different degrees of purchasing pain
Brass Insert in a Morgan - I can't imagine that it was for anything except messed up main nut threads. Since they had to cut out half of the main nut threads to make it fit in, it has to be as a thread replacement. Also in the one photo it looks like there is a smooth bore in the main nut. Maybe the main nut started to split out and they cut it out and put that piece in.
Craig
Baby Wiltons - I am beginning to think that there is no "low price" for them....just different degrees of purchasing pain
Brass Insert in a Morgan - I can't imagine that it was for anything except messed up main nut threads. Since they had to cut out half of the main nut threads to make it fit in, it has to be as a thread replacement. Also in the one photo it looks like there is a smooth bore in the main nut. Maybe the main nut started to split out and they cut it out and put that piece in.
Craig
KesterHouse
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Hi ho,
As some of you may recall, I picked up a mystery 4" vise back in December, described in this post. After some time in the electrolysis tub (and the holidays, and the flu...), I've finally gotten the thing cleaned up and painted.
I still have no idea who made it. The only clues are the little cast ogee at the back of the static jaw, which seems to be the way Chas. Parker and Howard Iron Works did things. After dis-assembly, cleaning and re-assembly, the only other things I've noticed are that both removable jaws are stamped in the back with the number 68 (circled in the second image below). I also found the broken screw that held the handle retainer in place was a 5/16"-16 thread, rather than the typical 5/16"-18 thread, which was a little strange.
Anyway, it's all purdy now. Here's a before image, the dis-assembled thing, and the finished unit ready for mounting.
Enjoy!
-JeffK.
As some of you may recall, I picked up a mystery 4" vise back in December, described in this post. After some time in the electrolysis tub (and the holidays, and the flu...), I've finally gotten the thing cleaned up and painted.
I still have no idea who made it. The only clues are the little cast ogee at the back of the static jaw, which seems to be the way Chas. Parker and Howard Iron Works did things. After dis-assembly, cleaning and re-assembly, the only other things I've noticed are that both removable jaws are stamped in the back with the number 68 (circled in the second image below). I also found the broken screw that held the handle retainer in place was a 5/16"-16 thread, rather than the typical 5/16"-18 thread, which was a little strange.
Anyway, it's all purdy now. Here's a before image, the dis-assembled thing, and the finished unit ready for mounting.
Enjoy!
-JeffK.
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Scored my first vise restoration project today, a Parker 433 1/2. It's got plenty of surface rust and paint drips, but other than that it appears to never have been used. Even the knurling on the jaws comes to sharp peaks. Going to spray it with liquid wrench and let it sit until Spring.
