The Truck Tool Equivalents Thread - Gathering Data

[Conductor562]

12 piece set, and I'm pretty sure those are the ATD re-badges (Proto Sells them too)...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OUZBDM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

By the way, glad to see this thread coming back around.

Yep, my Proto J360B set is identical in every detail

While I'm sure NOBODY is selling Re-branded Snap-On, I'm not sure who is making them. I believe it's Wilde, but I could be wrong. I believe my Proto tin snips are OEM'd by Wilde as well.

 

[Murphy4570]

12 piece set, and I'm pretty sure those are the ATD re-badges (Proto Sells them too)...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OUZBDM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

By the way, glad to see this thread coming back around.

Seem to be offshore knockoffs. Snappy ones are USA branded. Whether or not that is worth the massive price difference, who knows.

You can buy mine at my estate sale, that's all I know.

 

[Conductor562]

Seem to be offshore knockoffs. Snappy ones are USA branded. Whether or not that is worth the massive price difference, who knows.

You can buy mine at my estate sale, that's all I know.

The case on the ATD set differs from the Proto/SK/Wilde/Snap-On sets. The Proto/SK/Wilde/Snap-On sets are in fact made in the USA and I'm fairly certain Wilde is the OEM.

 

[Skin]

The case on the ATD set differs from the Proto/SK/Wilde/Snap-On sets. The Proto/SK/Wilde/Snap-On sets are in fact made in the USA and I'm fairly certain Wilde is the OEM.

stride makes essentially all the 12pc sets rebranded across the web.

snap-on's "forged" ring pliers are made by snap-on, they're quite a bit beefier than everyone else's.

also kastar/Lang make many of the convertible tip, not Wilde.

 

[lbgradwell]

if its branded snap on they make it or own the company that makes it...

There are a number of examples in this very thread showing this claim to be false!

 

[jimmycrackcorn]

stride makes essentially all the 12pc sets rebranded across the web.

snap-on's "forged" ring pliers are made by snap-on, they're quite a bit beefier than everyone else's.

also kastar/Lang make many of the convertible tip, not Wilde.

There is a difference in the tips as well does not line up flush and I have broken two Lang versions very easily. They now make the SO's in a sliver color like all their other pliers instead of the black.

 

[Tarheelgarage]

Florida pneumatic FP-739

The design looks a little like the Klutch compact 1/2 drive sold at Northern Tool

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200419927_200419927


BTW, I've got the Klutch compact impact and use it almost everyday in the shop for the past 8 months. Very compact and has enough balls to get the job done.
Highly recommend it.

 

[ihateminimumwage]

Seem to be offshore knockoffs. Snappy ones are USA branded. Whether or not that is worth the massive price difference, who knows.

You can buy mine at my estate sale, that's all I know.

It doesn't say in the Amazon listing (I only posted that one since they were the lowest price I found), but if you search for ATD-915s on other sites, you'll see they are listed as Made in the USA.
http://www.tooldesk.com/automotive/ATD915-ATD-12-pc-Snap-Ring-Pliers-Set.aspx

ATD seems to be a mix & match of different COO (and I'm betting even these are just re-brands from whoever makes them for everyone else).

 

[jimmycrackcorn]

The design looks a little like the Klutch compact 1/2 drive sold at Northern Tool

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200419927_200419927


BTW, I've got the Klutch compact impact and use it almost everyday in the shop for the past 8 months. Very compact and has enough balls to get the job done.
Highly recommend it.

They may have the same innards, but with the 1/2" drive. I actually would consider the Klutch watching the video they have. What's the toughest thing you pulled off without going to a HD impact?

 

[Tarheelgarage]

They may have the same innards, but with the 1/2" drive. I actually would consider the Klutch watching the video they have. What's the toughest thing you pulled off without going to a HD impact?

Crankshaft pulley bolts are where this impact shines.
Knocks them right off....except for that ******* on Honda Accords.....

It goes on sale quite often for $69.

Mine's beat all to hell apearance wise, but it's still busting off fasteners.

Many postive reviews on it; you won't regret this purchase...

 

[unslow1]

MAC Tools DBC18B 18-Piece Disc Brake Caliper Set seems to be identical to the Harbor Freight 97143 Pittsburgh Professional 18 Piece Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit, with the only differences being the arrangement and color of the blow mold cases.

This set is currently on sale at Harbor Freight for $40. $32 if you use a 20% off coupon. Thanks for the heads up I bought one today.

 

[03protege]

 

[Schurkey]

MAC Tools DBC18B 18-Piece Disc Brake Caliper Set seems to be identical to the Harbor Freight 97143 Pittsburgh Professional 18 Piece Disc Brake Pad and Caliper Service Tool Kit, with the only differences being the arrangement and color of the blow mold cases.

This set is currently on sale at Harbor Freight for $40. $32 if you use a 20% off coupon. Thanks for the heads up I bought one today.

First guess: Not an "equivalent", which is made by the same manufacturer but private-labeled and sold under other brand names; this is a "knockoff"--a cheap junk counterfeit designed to look like the original in order to deceive consumers.

Sorta like all those watches the spammers try to sell. Chinese copies of reputable product.

 

[dirtydogintex]

First guess: Not an "equivalent", which is made by the same manufacturer but private-labeled and sold under other brand names; this is a "knockoff"--a cheap junk counterfeit designed to look like the original in order to deceive consumers.

Sorta like all those watches the spammers try to sell. Chinese copies of reputable product.

It begins to get a little complicated when
the same Chinese who actually manufacture the 'reputable product'
also
manufacture the 'equivalent' (ska knock-off).... possibly on the line to the same standards.

Who knows for certain?
The tool truck folk don't want you to know - appears they want you to assume the worst....

 

[03protege]

It begins to get a little complicated when
the same Chinese who actually manufacture the 'reputable product'
also
manufacture the 'equivalent' (ska knock-off).... possibly on the line to the same standards.

Who knows for certain?
The tool truck folk don't want you to know - appears they want you to assume the worst....

True, it is probably all the pieces that did not pass QC.

 

[Conductor562]

Snap-On:

Wilde:

Snap-On:

Mac:

KD Tools:

I suppose all these were forged by Snap-On?

 

[dirtydogintex]

True, it is probably all the pieces that did not pass QC.

Don't bunches of rejected pieces go to sears as open stock?

 

[03protege]

Don't bunches of rejected pieces go to sears as open stock?

That was my next theory, Armstrong sockets that are out of tolerance become Craftsman.

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Do the Kobalt Impacts match up to any Snap-On units?

http://www.cripedistributing.com/ko...-19mm-metric-impact-sockets-3-8-97621-ro.html

http://www.cripedistributing.com/kobalt-snap-on-12pc-6pt-5-16-1-deep-sae-impact-sockets-97669.html

 

[Gotmayhem]

Hey I just wanted to thank everyone for putting all this effort into this thread. As thanks, I've uploaded a spreadsheet version of all the information I've collected in a quick, easy to read format. I didn't put prices because they're always changing anyways. I hope this saves anyone some time and money.

I uploaded to here, the filesize was just a tiny bit too large for a .pdf upload directly to the site. I understand if anyone is worried about a 192kb download so if anyone has a better idea or format of uploading this please let me know.

I'm also willing to keep updating this sheet as more tools are posted if anyone has interest in it. Please share this!

 

[Spudland_Dave]

Good work!
So exactly what are you considering an "Equivalent"... From my point of view, the F80 is not equivalent to the Bahco 7750. Sure I wont debate the same guts thing, but the handle forging is different (oval cross section vs round) and its got a comfort grip, so while it would techically be closer to the FH80, the fact that its not even built upon the same forging would lead me to think they are "not the same"..and by that I do not mean anything in terms of quality.

Plus, from an ergonomic standpoint, ratchet handles are very personal.. Part of the reason I just ordered a new FL80 is I know I like the SO handle contours...I dont like oval styled ones at all.

It would be like saying the FH80 is the same as the F80 which is the same as the FX80 and all of those are exactly like the GF80.

Equivalent in my book means exactly the same, minus the MFG roll markings.

 

[rmsg0040]

bit wrench:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=680939&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

http://www.tooltopia.com/kastar-hand-tools-5220.aspx

 

[Gotmayhem]

Good work!
So exactly what are you considering an "Equivalent"... From my point of view, the F80 is not equivalent to the Bahco 7750. Sure I wont debate the same guts thing, but the handle forging is different (oval cross section vs round) and its got a comfort grip, so while it would techically be closer to the FH80, the fact that its not even built upon the same forging would lead me to think they are "not the same"..and by that I do not mean anything in terms of quality.

Plus, from an ergonomic standpoint, ratchet handles are very personal.. Part of the reason I just ordered a new FL80 is I know I like the SO handle contours...I dont like oval styled ones at all.

It would be like saying the FH80 is the same as the F80 which is the same as the FX80 and all of those are exactly like the GF80.

Equivalent in my book means exactly the same, minus the MFG roll markings.

I can't argue with your points at all, for myself the identical internals was enough to be the "same" tool. You're correct though, some of the ratchets aren't completely the same, mostly in aesthetics. The way I saw it was that if someone really wants a Snap-On ratchet, they're going to buy the Snap-On, no matter what. But if someone is looking for SO quality and dependability without the price tag then this list offers attractive alternatives. However from my little bit of research the majority of things listed have little to no aesthetic changes, just name changes.

On the topic of SO/Williams: It's also worth mentioning that the new 936 series are all 80 tooth, the Williams equivalents are still 36. It seems that's how it usually works, the Williams design being a generation behind the expensive new SO offering. My original spreadsheet had a lot of notes like this but I couldn't format it correctly so they had to go...

 

[lennoxlennox]

also on your spreadsheet the 16 oz antivibe hammer equivalent

mac product code BH16AV
stanley product code 54-146

 

[purplezr2]

That was my next theory, Armstrong sockets that are out of tolerance become Craftsman.

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Do the Kobalt Impacts match up to any Snap-On units?

http://www.cripedistributing.com/ko...-19mm-metric-impact-sockets-3-8-97621-ro.html

http://www.cripedistributing.com/kobalt-snap-on-12pc-6pt-5-16-1-deep-sae-impact-sockets-97669.html

Those are new olds stock that were produced by williams.

 

[Gotmayhem]

also on your spreadsheet the 16 oz antivibe hammer equivalent

mac product code BH16AV
stanley product code 54-146

bit wrench:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=680939&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

http://www.tooltopia.com/kastar-hand-tools-5220.aspx

Added. Once I get enough changes I'll upload another newer file. OR if the OP of this thread is interested I could send him the Excel file to update the original post with. I considered creating a new thread with the compiled list but I decided against it because this thread was still sort of going.

If anyone wants to make a list of their own I'll be happy to upload the excel file as well to save you some time!

 

[metal4130]

Did I miss something? Every Snap On link I click on says "This item is currently not available"

Looks like someone at Snap On caught on...

 

[Gotmayhem]

Did I miss something? Every Snap On link I click on says "This item is currently not available"

Looks like someone at Snap On caught on...

They're all working fine for me

 

[Turbo_Prop]

Did I miss something? Every Snap On link I click on says "This item is currently not available"

Looks like someone at Snap On caught on...

Try using a different browser.

I was seeing the same thing you were, but then someone posted the links were working so I tried using Safari instead of Firefox.

With Firefox the price was not shown and a message that the item was longer available showed.

With Safari the price is shown.

Not sure why, maybe something is set wrong on my machine (and possibly yours as well).

 

[ls1dreams]

Hey I just wanted to thank everyone for putting all this effort into this thread. As thanks, I've uploaded a spreadsheet version of all the information I've collected in a quick, easy to read format. I didn't put prices because they're always changing anyways. I hope this saves anyone some time and money.

I uploaded to here, the filesize was just a tiny bit too large for a .pdf upload directly to the site. I understand if anyone is worried about a 192kb download so if anyone has a better idea or format of uploading this please let me know.

I'm also willing to keep updating this sheet as more tools are posted if anyone has interest in it. Please share this!

Cool. I'm the original OP and just updated the first post with as much as I could. I'm not sure how often I'll be checking back to update it, but if you want to be vigilant about it I can simply link to your excel spreadsheet in my first post as well.

 

[dirtydogintex]

bit wrench:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=680939&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

http://www.tooltopia.com/kastar-hand-tools-5220.aspx

Hey! Just saw another pic of these over on one of the M tool truck threads.... uh.... didn't I?

EDIT
mac tool thread
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181932
Post #89.... ?????

 

[Gotmayhem]

Cool. I'm the original OP and just updated the first post with as much as I could. I'm not sure how often I'll be checking back to update it, but if you want to be vigilant about it I can simply link to your excel spreadsheet in my first post as well.

If you wanted to do so that'd be awesome

PDF : http://www.filedropper.com/trucktoolequivalent1
Excell : http://www.filedropper.com/trucktoolequivalent

I may have only added a few things at most so far. But with the raw spreadsheet anyone can just as easily add data of their own and spread it around.

 

[volaredon]

Anyone know if the Williams line of screwdrivers is the same as Snap-On?

YES THEY ARE I own some of each.

 

[dirtydogintex]

Seems to me the SO metal is finished a tad nicer/prettier
but I'm comparing new Williams to older SO's.

Anyone compare new to new?

 

[Gotmayhem]

Seems to me the SO metal is finished a tad nicer/prettier
but I'm comparing new Williams to older SO's.

Anyone compare new to new?

I recently bought a set of new Williams polish chrome EHA ratchets. My coworkers have bought a number of various polished S/O stuff last year. I don't notice any big differences in the metal quality honestly. If it matters to anyone the S/O have a polished chrome "On/Off" toggle, the switch on my Williams is not polished. Both have very nice mirror finishes and were free of imperfections from factory. I wouldn't be concerned about the quality of the metal between the two brands. I suppose there is a chance the S/O are "shinier" though, I'd have to really compare them closely in good lighting. Can't really compare the performance though, with the Williams all being 36 tooth versus the S/O 80.

 

[kunkernator]

If you wanted to do so that'd be awesome

PDF : http://www.filedropper.com/trucktoolequivalent1
Excell : http://www.filedropper.com/trucktoolequivalent

I may have only added a few things at most so far. But with the raw spreadsheet anyone can just as easily add data of their own and spread it around.

Try PM'ing luvit. He seems to be good at making embedded spreadsheets I the forum. I believe he does it thru Google docs.

 

[Gotmayhem]

Try PM'ing luvit. He seems to be good at making embedded spreadsheets I the forum. I believe he does it thru Google docs.

Sounds good, thanks for the tip.

For now, how does this sound. I uploaded the files to googledocs and have granted editing permission to anyone with the link in the spirit of making this a group effort. Someone give it a shot and let me know if it works. I hope it does and we don't end up with a spreadsheet comparing the snap-on fart ratchet to the Cman igloo weedwacker

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlDHF4YNN9qqdFl4Qk9nc215NXctVkx4TlRieTBranc&usp=sharing

I've never uploaded this way before so I don't know how well the editing feature works. If it does maybe we can get this link in the OP so the most up to date info is available for whoever wants it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlDHF4YNN9qqdFl4Qk9nc215NXctVkx4TlRieTBranc&output=pdf

^ This link should be a constantly edited .pdf version download of the previous spreadsheet.

 

[Brownsfan]

Would like to add this as well. Any Cornwell plier with CCL-as a part number is nothing more than a Channellock plier with orange grips and CCL in front of the SAME Channellock part number. EX. CCL-909= 909 channellock. I will say that the Cornwell price is usually only a couple dollars more. http://www.cornwelltools.com/webcat/products.php?product=CCL909-%2d-Crimping-Tool. http://www.lowes.com/pd_27324-922-9...ls&productId=3399848&rpp=32&searchQueryType=1

 

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[kapster]

Snap on dead blow hammers and williams, identical except for rubber grips on snap on. HBFE48 and JHW-48 for example.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item..._ID=641047&group_ID=675293&store=&dir=catalog


http://www.toolsource.com/hivis-yellow-deadblow-hammer-p-126687.html

They're holding off on the dead blow ball pein, if you want that quality have to go snappy.

 

[rollscanhardly]

Snap on dead blow hammers and williams, identical except for rubber grips on snap on. HBFE48 and JHW-48 for example.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item..._ID=641047&group_ID=675293&store=&dir=catalog


http://www.toolsource.com/hivis-yellow-deadblow-hammer-p-126687.html

They're holding off on the dead blow ball pein, if you want that quality have to go snappy.

even apart from the rubber grips, they don't look identical to me, similar but not identical.

if you blow up the pics, the snappys have upper ribs the williams do not, their could be more differences as it's hard to tell from the stock photos