zoomieport
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You continue to impress Mr. Scott! Thank you for helping out so many of us, we appreciate it!!!
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The VISES of Garage Journal
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You continue to impress Mr. Scott! Thank you for helping out so many of us, we appreciate it!!!
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KMScott
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Thanks Zoomie, I am impressed with you and many others here on GJ and have so much to learn. I like the new avatar. Getting jaw examples is the secret, then being able to fit the new jaws on more then one vise.
I had a GJ member contact me with his Ridgid 61 CPN needing 6" jaws and he found out that the Starrett 326 was very close to the same size as his jaws. I checked the critical areas like screw hole location to the L shelf and told him I can make a existing set fit. It took some time to cut the hard tool steel for final fit and Lonny had to compromise with the straight serrations and slotting the screw holes a 1/32. I am still pondering supporting Ridgid vises since I have not had many calls on them, I support over 85 different products now. Here is his final pictures he shared with me. Great job Lonny.
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I just double-checked and mine are 4" wide unfortunately. Congrats on making the new jaws, they are complicated! This vise will go on the back burner pile anyway for a while, too many projects ahead of it.
I've been looking at the XF quick acting vises for light production work, can you describe how the mechanism works? Like how many moving parts and does it limit the clamping force you can obtain? Thanks.....
wrenchguy
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Purchased, will get more photos and info up when I can. It does rain vises around here!!
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EOC_Jason
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Ridgid is kind of an oddball... The early models are similar to the Desmond Stephans Co. vises (since that is whom they bought out). But the Desmond's are odd lengths like 3-1/4, 3-3/4, 4-1/4, 4-3/4, etc, etc... Ridgid went to the more standard widths like 4", 4.5", 5", etc... But then also changed from the screws to the T-Jaws, and I guess eventually back to screws when they became re-branded Columbians.
KMScott
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The Starrett # 326 jaw is longer then 6-1/32, While the Ridgid # 61's length was 6-1/8. so far the Starrett's, Ridgid's, Rock Islands and Chas Parkers lengths are not nominal numbers that I have seen. Still have a closet of vise's and their jaws not measured up yet.
Jason, what would be your opinion be on very course serrations on the 8" jaws and larger. I am getting ready to cut the serrations on a Parker 8" jaws and they used a pitch between the serrations cut at 30 degrees of .200 thousands. All the serrations I have cut and seen, have a pitch of .100 for jaws 4" and up to 8" .075 for jaws 4" and smaller to 2" and the 2" baby jaws use .050 pitch. The sample jaws I have from the 8" Parker are very course and cut deep. Yours or other opinions are welcome.
Jason, what would be your opinion be on very course serrations on the 8" jaws and larger. I am getting ready to cut the serrations on a Parker 8" jaws and they used a pitch between the serrations cut at 30 degrees of .200 thousands. All the serrations I have cut and seen, have a pitch of .100 for jaws 4" and up to 8" .075 for jaws 4" and smaller to 2" and the 2" baby jaws use .050 pitch. The sample jaws I have from the 8" Parker are very course and cut deep. Yours or other opinions are welcome.
mcmlvif100
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Awesome. Will be interested in seeing more as the CL photos really weren't that good.
Recoil Rob
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Was at the scrapyard today dropping off a load of electric motors for scrap. I happened to ask if there were any vises around and was shown this, got it for $20, weighs 47lbs. Looks like a very well finished large woodworking vise with a lot of options. The jaws are 14" wide and the overall length is 24".
The mounting plate is hinged so the vise can be swiveled 90˚ upward setting the jaws parallel to the floor.
There's a handle with a black knob that allows the jaws to move out of parallel with each other by a camming action.
It is missing a handle that tightens a collar which allows swiveling the entire assembly 360˚ but without the locking mechanism it's useless.
There is no name or marking on this at all so if anyone has an idea as to who made it I may be able to source the missing locking handle.
thanks,
Rob
The mounting plate is hinged so the vise can be swiveled 90˚ upward setting the jaws parallel to the floor.
There's a handle with a black knob that allows the jaws to move out of parallel with each other by a camming action.
It is missing a handle that tightens a collar which allows swiveling the entire assembly 360˚ but without the locking mechanism it's useless.
There is no name or marking on this at all so if anyone has an idea as to who made it I may be able to source the missing locking handle.
thanks,
Rob
Mohawk Dave
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Hey LG, I'll get some pics for you, but it'll probably be Sunday. The lever moves to the side, and somehow opens the nut, but I did not have time to really check it out.
I did read/watch reviews on them, and they are highly regarded and Made in Germany, in with Peddinghaus (and Matador I think
) But they are supposed to be uber strong. The sticker on it says that if the jaw(s) ever fail to return to Ridgid for a lifetime replacement. 
EOC_Jason
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I looked at my 8" Ridgid, and I would say they are finer than the ones you cut for my Reed 4C, so they couldn't have been cut that deep.
Demoman would probably be the expert here as he has probably the largest collection of 8" vises of anyone.
Recoil Rob
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Yep, I found some photos last night, it's an Emmert Pattternmakers vise but mine seems to be a quality copy.
Someone is selling knock offs so perhaps the pieces I'm missing will fit.
893cv
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WOW!
Epic import vise fail! This is why I'll only spend my money on a quality vise.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-VISE-ANV...ultDomain_0&hash=item2584f722b7#ht_6430wt_880
Epic import vise fail! This is why I'll only spend my money on a quality vise.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HD-VISE-ANV...ultDomain_0&hash=item2584f722b7#ht_6430wt_880
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Mark in Indiana
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I always state to my tool customers as needed: "Sure, go ahead and buy that new import. You'll need to buy another one in 6 months. The vintage tool that you buy will be passed down to your grandchildren."
toomanytoyzz
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What is even more hilarious is he is charging almost $60 to ship an item which is really worth 60 cents at the scrap yard.
jakemac
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WOW, it looks like Thor was beating on it with Mjölnir !
gm54210
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Even with the pieces missing you got a great deal. Yes, it is an Emmert clone made in Taiwan. (search emmert clone or patternmakers vise clone) Below is a link to the vise with instructions and even a video.
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/patternmakerswoodworkingvise.aspx
I have one and really like working with it.
http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o523/gm54210/workbench2_zps235c2e1d.jpg
Recoil Rob
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Thanks for the lead, the .pdf lists repair parts so hopefully they won't be more than buying a new vise. I'm going to go back to the scrap yard on monday and see ifthey have the parts lying around, if not I'll try Highland.
Outlawmws
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It might be "Precision - Bilt" using a compass as a dash?
TreePointer
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It might be "Precision - Bilt" using a compass as a dash?
Yeah, I'm also seeing a compass.
va.grouseman
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Originally posted by b100.
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I just bought, at an auction, a Precision Built Strealiner Vise and can't seam to find anything about it. Help?
Does it look like this one?
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ostcount=10141
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If the picture doesn't appear, the vise can be seen on page #553. Post #11045.
Not the same vise but the same company.
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I just bought, at an auction, a Precision Built Strealiner Vise and can't seam to find anything about it. Help?
Does it look like this one?
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ostcount=10141
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Yeah. I couldn't find it either. Research showed me that it looks like it is a Dunlap sold by sears. I found an old news article for for their add. I can't make out the date. Looking at the price then, it has held its value. Lol.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...x0aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=NSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3965,4294055
Btw. I cleaned it up. It is a compass.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...x0aAAAAIBAJ&sjid=NSUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3965,4294055
Btw. I cleaned it up. It is a compass.
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ritzblitz
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Picked up this Rock Island 597 today for $90.
It looks like they lost the screws that hold the jaws on, consequently the dynamic jaw is welded on. SHouldn't be a problem though.
~130lbs
It looks like they lost the screws that hold the jaws on, consequently the dynamic jaw is welded on. SHouldn't be a problem though.
~130lbs
Mohawk Dave
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Good score ritz. looks to be in dang good shape too. The lead and the handle looks nice!
Nice vise. What kind of clamp is that?
Mark in Indiana
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I bet the clamp is a Wilton 406.
ritzblitz
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Armstrong.
wrenchguy
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ritzblitz
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The jaws on the 597 are 6" FYI
Mohawk Dave
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FPU Dovetail Vise I picked up today with a really cool stand. 4". It's cool because the rear jaw is the dynamic one.
The maker's mark reads FPU which I found out means "Fabryka Przyrządów i Uchwytów" translated from Polish as "Chucks Instruments Factory" and is now the Bison-Bial Company (known for their lathe chucks).-(Stolen from Gabe Keway's Flickr page)
The maker's mark reads FPU which I found out means "Fabryka Przyrządów i Uchwytów" translated from Polish as "Chucks Instruments Factory" and is now the Bison-Bial Company (known for their lathe chucks).-(Stolen from Gabe Keway's Flickr page)
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creativecars
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I finally got to work on my free vise. I found this helping a friend clean out his shed and he was going to scrap it, but if I wanted it he said, "just take it.".. And that was 3 years ago. So with GJ inspiration I pulled it out of the corner of the garage and got to work. Cleaning, disassembly, figuring out what to do for the missing piece and finally painting and reassembly.
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HighwayTrout
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Sweet resto Creativecars.
Here is a little vise I picked up today. I don't know if I want to use it as is or disassemble it and paint it.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/108300507@N03/10791011953/" title="IMG_1937 by HighwayTrout, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/10791011953_3a1c072135.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="IMG_1937"></a>
Here is a little vise I picked up today. I don't know if I want to use it as is or disassemble it and paint it.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/108300507@N03/10791011953/" title="IMG_1937 by HighwayTrout, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/10791011953_3a1c072135.jpg" width="375" height="500" alt="IMG_1937"></a>
creativecars
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Thanks. Wow, I wish mine would have been in that kind of shape. It would have saved me several evenings of work.
Great find.jakemac
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That looks like a nice "working" vice, but I'd paint that bad boy up and make it beg to be beaten.
