Outlawmws
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OK, it’s been a month and I've barely had a chance to touch this puppy. (Life…)
I picked this guy up off Craig’s List for “scrap price” (the PO’s words when I picked it up.) He’d picked it up on a “You want a drill press? Come get this thing out of my rental property” deal, and as he already had a fairly new Summit Drill press near this size, he decided to just sell it fast to get the space in his shop back....
So it was priced at $125, and that’s what I gave the man. And happy to do so!
The bad: The motor is, for this DP; junk (1/3 hp….) and the 8 sheave pulley is missing. (I’m guessing the original motor was 3 phase, and the shaft was larger than the shaft on this motor so it got left off…). Other than that, it just needs a major cleanup/refurb! I have a couple other things I want to do on it. but more on that later:
The good? It’s a Canedy Otto (Pre 1949/Cincinnati era) Royal 18, VERY heavy (406 lbs w/Motor according to the Manual) 5-3/4”: stroke > 9” throat (18” dp…), it has a table crank, the head housing has crank capability, (which I want to make functional, I need a crank/Shaft, worm gear set, with a smaller drive gear for the rack gear also needed…)
Here is the Ad pics and language from CL:
And what I took when I got home:
For the history buffs, some Canedy-Otto History:
From http://vintagemachinery.org
The Table is also a plus! Not a hint of an arc of shame, as some bright boy made up a 1” plate, drilled and tapped it, and it was bolted on from the bottom and THAT has the only Arc of shame!. (When I got the DP, the plate had been flipped over and looked clean…)
The front name plate after the Orange paint was removed:
And a sample of a similar plate; you can just see the ghost of the art on my plate, and the color is a match (It looks different in the pics, as I had to lighten one for visibility...).
The start of the strip down.
I took the 1/3 HP motor off and the motor mounting plate. I also got the Chuck and Arbor off, as well. The chuck action was not happening but it actually freed right up with some lube. It still needs a complete disassembly and detailing however.
I guestimated the weight of the remaining head at about 100 Lbs, and I wasn’t far off. But the expectation that my son and I could get a hold of the head and lift it off wasn’t realistic at all! We got to here, working it slow. But 100 + lbs at head level was not my idea of fun, so we did some rigging and I broke out a small chain fall I have, and we finished the lift off with that.
This was how far we had gotten when I stopped us and did the rigging. After getting it on the ground, we kept moving the holding collar up as we went a fractio of an inch at a time... I was glad we had:
Here is the head on its way to the ground:
I weighed it after it was on the ground: a bit over 112 lbs…
That’s as far as I had time for today, but the table lift crank housing and the post should come off easily.
I want to see if I can find a 6’ post as I don’t like the working height with only the stock 5’ post. 3-1/2” OD is what I need; might not be easy to find around here, not that many steel supply houses around anymore these days…
I also need to do some digging for the gears and gear rack for the head. The Rack will probably be the easiest piece…
This will be a slow process; I don’t have a lot of time to spare for the project right now, and in two weeks I lose an entire weekend…
I picked this guy up off Craig’s List for “scrap price” (the PO’s words when I picked it up.) He’d picked it up on a “You want a drill press? Come get this thing out of my rental property” deal, and as he already had a fairly new Summit Drill press near this size, he decided to just sell it fast to get the space in his shop back....
So it was priced at $125, and that’s what I gave the man. And happy to do so!
The bad: The motor is, for this DP; junk (1/3 hp….) and the 8 sheave pulley is missing. (I’m guessing the original motor was 3 phase, and the shaft was larger than the shaft on this motor so it got left off…). Other than that, it just needs a major cleanup/refurb! I have a couple other things I want to do on it. but more on that later:
The good? It’s a Canedy Otto (Pre 1949/Cincinnati era) Royal 18, VERY heavy (406 lbs w/Motor according to the Manual) 5-3/4”: stroke > 9” throat (18” dp…), it has a table crank, the head housing has crank capability, (which I want to make functional, I need a crank/Shaft, worm gear set, with a smaller drive gear for the rack gear also needed…)
Here is the Ad pics and language from CL:
Drill Press - $125
Drill press for sale in ***. If interested, call *** for information about it at **-***-xxxx
And what I took when I got home:
For the history buffs, some Canedy-Otto History:
From http://vintagemachinery.org
The remnants of my Name plate map to the Pre-Cincinattii era, and so does the S/N as it is low and close to another known example of an earlier Candy Auto DP.Canedy & Edwards was established by William Eaton Canedy in 1889 when he moved his firm, the Minnesota Anvil & Vice Co. to Downers Grove, IL and took William H. Edwards as a partner. The business began in Rochester, Minnesota, but had moved to the Chicago area by 1889. By 1894, Albert T. Otto had joined the firm, the company name had changed to Canedy-Otto Manufacturing Co. and they had moved again to Chicago Heights, IL.
The company was dissolved in 1942, but was then revived for a time, perhaps as part of the war effort. In 1949 the company was sold at public auction and was acquired by Cincinnati Lathe & Tool Co. and operated as the "Canedy-Otto Division" of that firm. This division reportedly lasted until 1956, but at least some of the Canedy-Otto product line continued under the "Cincinnati Lathe & Tool Co." name.
In their earlier days Canedy-Otto primarily made blacksmithing equipment, such as post drills, tire shrinkers and blowers. In later years they made heavy-duty drill presses, plus they made a combination machine for working wood and metal.
The Table is also a plus! Not a hint of an arc of shame, as some bright boy made up a 1” plate, drilled and tapped it, and it was bolted on from the bottom and THAT has the only Arc of shame!. (When I got the DP, the plate had been flipped over and looked clean…)
The front name plate after the Orange paint was removed:
And a sample of a similar plate; you can just see the ghost of the art on my plate, and the color is a match (It looks different in the pics, as I had to lighten one for visibility...).
The start of the strip down.
I took the 1/3 HP motor off and the motor mounting plate. I also got the Chuck and Arbor off, as well. The chuck action was not happening but it actually freed right up with some lube. It still needs a complete disassembly and detailing however.
I guestimated the weight of the remaining head at about 100 Lbs, and I wasn’t far off. But the expectation that my son and I could get a hold of the head and lift it off wasn’t realistic at all! We got to here, working it slow. But 100 + lbs at head level was not my idea of fun, so we did some rigging and I broke out a small chain fall I have, and we finished the lift off with that.
This was how far we had gotten when I stopped us and did the rigging. After getting it on the ground, we kept moving the holding collar up as we went a fractio of an inch at a time... I was glad we had:
Here is the head on its way to the ground:
I weighed it after it was on the ground: a bit over 112 lbs…
That’s as far as I had time for today, but the table lift crank housing and the post should come off easily.
I want to see if I can find a 6’ post as I don’t like the working height with only the stock 5’ post. 3-1/2” OD is what I need; might not be easy to find around here, not that many steel supply houses around anymore these days…
I also need to do some digging for the gears and gear rack for the head. The Rack will probably be the easiest piece…
This will be a slow process; I don’t have a lot of time to spare for the project right now, and in two weeks I lose an entire weekend…
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