The VISES of Garage Journal

[Mavawreck]

That's a wood vise no? Do you need a wood vise? I would pass too. Drop the 0 and that would be more in my price range.

It is, woodworking is what I primarily like to do these days. I'd like a good vise, but I don't necessarily need anything that large. I plan on making a leg vise when I build a new workbench.

 

[bigcaddy]

It is, woodworking is what I primarily like to do these days. I'd like a good vise, but I don't necessarily need anything that large. I plan on making a leg vise when I build a new workbench.

150.00 for a repaired one is too much. 150.00 for a complete and unrepaired one is a steal. If you have some time, spend an hour over on the The Iron Hand website, mprime.com and read more about Emmerts. That way you will know what to look for when you see another good one.

I see the for sale quite often but they are usually north of 500.00 around here. If you keep looking, one will turn up

 

[Fretters]

The parts are all painted on that Parkinson now. Just need to wait another day or two for the paint to cure somewhat before I can scrape the excess paint off, (I scrape rather than masking), and start reassembling.

Internal sections have just been given a lick of Linseed oil for protection rather than being painted. That's the leadscrew half nut which can be seen on top of that purple powder box next to those gears.

 

[f575gtc]

wow powder coating is definitely the way to go with these things. I used cheap harbor freight red powder and just hit the paint coat with a hammer and it didn't crack, rub off, etc. I love this paint!

 

[Fretters]

What did you use to bake it on?

 

[f575gtc]

I used an old oven I never threw out.

 

[Fretters]

I used an old oven I never threw out.

Yet the wives still tell us that hoarding isn't useful. Nice one.

 

[Craptain]

Fretters, What is that pop gun propped up by the bench? Webley?

 

[Fretters]

It's a Diana 27.

 

[f575gtc]

Yet the wives still tell us that hoarding isn't useful. Nice one.

well that's the secret, blind them with a new oven, they turn the cheek to what happens to the old one.

 

[drivesitfar]

575: some of the guys actually have old range/ovens in their garages and shops for the painting. so find a permanent spot and you won't have to wait for weather to warm up in the cold months to do a nice paint job.

by the way that was a heckuva paint job. rattlecan or do you have a compressor and a paint gun?

Fretters: so Diana takes care of the critters big and small trying to get in your yard or shed?

 

[f575gtc]

575: some of the guys actually have old range/ovens in their garages and shops for the painting. so find a permanent spot and you won't have to wait for weather to warm up in the cold months to do a nice paint job.

by the way that was a heckuva paint job. rattlecan or do you have a compressor and a paint gun?

Fretters: so Diana takes care of the critters big and small trying to get in your yard or shed?

it was powder coated, I already have an oven in my garage that is what i was commenting on.

I have an air compressor and HVLP gun, but this was powder coated, I'm sure powder coat is stronger than even a epoxy paint.

 

[drivesitfar]

it looks like the oven was a temporary location in the middle of the floor when you posted your picture of your vise sitting on it or did you already move it up against a wall to stay in the garage.

i was thinking you powder coated it, but it sounds like maybe you had a shop do it? how much would it cost to powder coat a vise?

 

[Clik]

Here's one on CL. I'm not sure what it is. Too far for me anyway.

http://scranton.craigslist.org/tls/4389913550.html

 

[f575gtc]

it looks like the oven was a temporary location in the middle of the floor when you posted your picture of your vise sitting on it or did you already move it up against a wall to stay in the garage.

i was thinking you powder coated it, but it sounds like maybe you had a shop do it? how much would it cost to powder coat a vise?

does it really look in the middle? the oven is up against the wall, with my sandblasting cabinet on top of it, and a 60 inch work bench to the right. My rolling tool chest and cheapo welder is in front of the workbench.

I powder coated it myself using the harbor freight powder coating system I picked up for $40 a few months back, vises don't have a lot of surface area to coat, but they weigh a ton so I dunno if that affects the price of a shop doing it for you. The oven racks were sagging a bit, I put the vise towards the edges and it held up, but at 52lbs I doubt I will ever put much heavier stuff in there.

 

[drivesitfar]

thanks 575

 

[Cadillac fan]

Hey guys. Can someone tell me what to look for when viewing a pipe vise. Going to be looking at this on Saturday (hopefully). The price is about $18 and I know that Dawn is a good brand.

 

[Fretters]

Fretters: so Diana takes care of the critters big and small trying to get in your yard or shed?

I brought it through from my parents a while ago to try and deal with the rats which the chap next door was attracting with his poultry. The wife was making the situation worse with her insistence on having rabbits. Just couldn't bring myself to shoot the rats though. I know they're only rats, but.... I'm a good shot with that thing on inanimate objects, but put an animate object in front of the sight and I couldn't hit a barn door at twenty yards these days, it seems. The rats have been discouraged by other methods, and seem to have literally disappeared now, fortunately.

That does seem to be another use for iron rich water from the electrolysis and citric acid derusting solutions, btw. Started pouring the stuff along the border where they were coming through from next door, at one point, and it does seem to discourage them somewhat.

Hey guys. Can someone tell me what to look for when viewing a pipe vise. Going to be looking at this on Saturday (hopefully). The price is about $18 and I know that Dawn is a good brand.

Same as any other vice, just check for age, damage and completeness. £18 for what appears an intact vice with a sturdy looking homemade stand to boot, I personally think it'd have to be completely knackered for you not to get that.

 

[bubinga2]

150.00 for a repaired one is too much. 150.00 for a complete and unrepaired one is a steal. If you have some time, spend an hour over on the The Iron Hand website, mprime.com and read more about Emmerts. That way you will know what to look for when you see another good one.

I see the for sale quite often but they are usually north of 500.00 around here. If you keep looking, one will turn up

I would recommend one of these for woodworking. It's the same design and only $280. http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2003516/3008/WoodRiver-Pattern-Maker's-Vise.aspx

or
http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/patternmakerswoodworkingvise.aspx

Spend the money you save on a good dovetail saw

 

[drivesitfar]

Cadillac: the stand looks like it's worth what you are paying for the pipe vise so i'd get it just for that if i needed one. just check to see that all the parts are there to tighten the chain and you can put the chain in vinegar or just oil it up and start using it. bring a small piece of pipe to check out the vise in case the owner doesn't have one to try it out.

Fretters: Some countries eat rats and maybe they taste like chicken. sounds like yours would.

looking forward to seeing the Parkinson all spiffed up and hearing how it works. it's a great looking vise.

Getridofone: nice little vise and i bet that wasn't an easy restoration.

Filson:Nice sign and looks like a great shop for your big vises

 

[Filson]

Thanks, drivesitfar! I have some work to do on the shop, but am covering that in a garage thread.

 

[Jan-Sietze]

I laughed when I read the comment on the ad. Translates as "No Chinese Junk"
Guess it is not just here in US that thinks that way.

 

[curse]

This is the stand I built for my vice, had a brake drum from a recent Oshkosh fire truck rebuild and a cranks shaft my dad had made into a show car stand some time in the early sixties along with a Reese receiver and a receiver plate from an old pointless hitch. Like they say,use what you have.. I also have my bead roller set up to fit the receiver and will also make a sand bag mounting plate,possibly a few other interchangeable items along the way... Chinese 8" vice that was given to me for now, couldn't bawk at the price...


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[G20-Budo]

Curse, nice artful stand.. I like it.

 

[great white tj]

Nice crank shaft stand.

 

[Fretters]

A distance shot of the reassembled vice. Just need some new screws for the inserts and then she'll be finished.

What a cow that thing was to get back together. Those U bolts required quite a bit of subtle bending and persuasion in the vice to get them into shape so that I could refit them. Single piece rear jaw vices are a lot easier to reassemble.

 

[zkling]

Hey guys. Can someone tell me what to look for when viewing a pipe vise. Going to be looking at this on Saturday (hopefully). The price is about $18 and I know that Dawn is a good brand.

Not much to a chain style pipe vise. Just check for cracks and that the chain moves free at all links and the lock mechanism works properly.

 

[jakemac]

Make sure that the hooks/keepers that grab loose end of the chain aren't deformed or worn down. You don't want the chain to slip off while working on the pipe.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

A distance shot of the reassembled vice. Just need some new screws for the inserts and then she'll be finished.

What a cow that thing was to get back together. Those U bolts required quite a bit of subtle bending and persuasion in the vice to get them into shape so that I could refit them. Single piece rear jaw vices are a lot easier to reassemble.

Hey Fretters, what is the machine to the right of the picture?

 

[Filson]

This is the stand I built for my vice, had a brake drum from a recent Oshkosh fire truck rebuild and a cranks shaft my dad had made into a show car stand some time in the early sixties along with a Reese receiver and a receiver plate from an old pointless hitch. Like they say,use what you have.. I also have my bead roller set up to fit the receiver and will also make a sand bag mounting plate,possibly a few other interchangeable items along the way... Chinese 8" vice that was given to me for now, couldn't bawk at the price...


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Very badass stand, and welcome to GJ! Hey, nothing wrong with free either.

Any close-ups of the stand build?

 

[Outlawmws]

Hey Fretters, what is the machine to the right of the picture?

Looks like a jig saw to me. (But of course they will call int something else across the pond... )

 

[zkling]

Looks like a jig saw to me. (But of course they will call int something else across the pond... )

My money is on a die filer.

 

[Rust]

My money is on a die filer.

I'll be cashing out with a simple scroll saw converted to a filer...ca-ching.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Looks like a jig saw to me. (But of course they will call int something else across the pond... )

I'll agree but it looks like a great resto.

 

[sasquatch12]

I wondered about that machine also, nicely built by the pic of what we can see of it.

 

[drivesitfar]

Fretters: i know you have a hack saw painted with that same color as you just did your Parkinson. sorry you had a tough time putting that 100 year old "gal" back together.

she does look great though and ready to share the bench with what i think is a "scroll" saw that is sitting next to it now?

by the way what color is that or do you mix your own with all the bottles of stuff you have on your bench. looks like a laboratory.

Mark: i didn't get a chance to congratulate you on weighing down your shop with not only one 6 inch vise, but 3 in one day. nice haul sir and they all look like they are usable which is not easy to find these days.

 

[Fretters]

The colour is Wine Red. It's a standard RAL colour. No funky mixing or owt going on. Satin enamel.

Some better photo's of the vice.

It is indeed a scroll/fret saw sat on the end of the bench. It's more a storage space than a saw at the moment, as you can likely guess from the photo. It's an old Meddings. Built sturdily and a very rugged design, but one of their designers seemed to have had a grudge against humanity in general. Their painting dept. wasn't exactly overzealous in applying paint either. Some portions, the inner surfaces of the upright being one, barely had even a whiff of the paint, so that was rusted up quite a bit when I got it. It's one of those machines which has the potential to be good, but as standard they're let down on a few little points during manufacture which shouldn't really happen.

It's one of those things that's running, but still needs some little tweaks and attention. I put an old Westinghouse motor on it which occasionally trips the main breaker when it's switched on, (the original motor had suffered from damp. Still not managed to disassemble it due to the internal rust locking it together), the blade holders are off kilter so the line of the cut doesn't actually follow the line of the bed, and I think there's the odd other little bit which needs sorting too. These are some better photo's of it.

That photo reminds me of another let down during manufacture. Bearing in mind these things would likely be used with wood, so there's be a lot of fine sawdust about, the breather on the cylinder was just an open ended, unfiltered pipe. You can fair guess what the sump was filled with when I got it. Oily sawdust sludge. The pulleys aren't original. I ditched the three step aluminium pulleys and belt cover and put single step cast iron pulleys on there. That copper and brass cylinder is a filter I made for the new cylinder breather assembly.

That red hose is for dust extraction. It leads to this, (another addition. I love plumbing bits ):

The vacuum hose just gets stuck on that open port of the T adaptor.

This is the gubbins for the breather filter.

Fitted:

 

[Craptain]

A distance shot of the reassembled vice. Just need some new screws for the inserts and then she'll be finished.

What a cow that thing was to get back together. Those U bolts required quite a bit of subtle bending and persuasion in the vice to get them into shape so that I could refit them. Single piece rear jaw vices are a lot easier to reassemble.

I really like the colour you have used. Looking good.

SH** you were posting as I was posting.

 

[oldldh]

Looks like a jig saw to me. (But of course they will call int something else across the pond...

When are you bounders going to quit butchering the Queen's English???


Wrenches = Spanners

Vise = Vice (Around here there is something to that, me thinks---)

Jig saw = Coping Saw (I think...)

Stopping by to see someone = Knocked up (Don't go there...)

Carpenter = Joiner

Etc----Etc----Etc

Quite!!!

 

[Fretters]

I really like the colour you have used. Looking good.

Cheers. I'll probably not dare use it now I've tarted it up though.

SH** you were posting as I was posting.