Grasshopper's New Home - "The Hangar"
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bluesman2a
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I hear you on that, and second the emotion. I found some scaffolding very affordable at Northern Tool, and aside from the lift, it's one of my new favorite tools!!! Heck my wife even loves it (she used it to repaint a room in MUCH less than the time it would have taken with ladders.
I highly recommend having at least 2 sections for ANY of the folks out there who have 10' or higher ceilings!!!
More framing updates.
Here's one of the new shop area. I'll be installing a 16' W x 8' high rollup "high-lift" door in this bay. Walls will be insulated with R20 batts and covered with 7/16" OSB (painted white).
Here's another angle on the header for the overhead door opening into the shop. This is not a load bearing wall since the roof is framed with 60' clear span trusses.
This is a shot of the other side of the wash bay. The ground floor will be the kitchen/lounge, washroom and mechanical room. The upstairs will be the office/TV room (guy's hangout).
... and from a different angle. I framed the window opening to accommodate some surplus window units I was able to source (about 4 1/2' x 5 1/2').
Here's one of the new shop area. I'll be installing a 16' W x 8' high rollup "high-lift" door in this bay. Walls will be insulated with R20 batts and covered with 7/16" OSB (painted white).
Here's another angle on the header for the overhead door opening into the shop. This is not a load bearing wall since the roof is framed with 60' clear span trusses.
This is a shot of the other side of the wash bay. The ground floor will be the kitchen/lounge, washroom and mechanical room. The upstairs will be the office/TV room (guy's hangout).
... and from a different angle. I framed the window opening to accommodate some surplus window units I was able to source (about 4 1/2' x 5 1/2').
cdrewferd
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Great looking progress. Even though you are taking a good sized chunk out for your kitchen and office area it still looks like you have plenty of room.
Tommygun
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That is some shed Ezzie! I just stumbled on this forum the other day and I must say I am impressed! Like your 510 also! I have one too (or a 1600 as we call em in Australia).
Jaytree
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Very impressive Ezzie!
There's tons of thought, planning, and work in that build.
A helluva lot more than I've ever sat down and thought
about, much less acted out! You will definetly deserve
the luxury of kicking back and being proud of that one
when it's all said and done.
Cheers to you!
There's tons of thought, planning, and work in that build.
A helluva lot more than I've ever sat down and thought
about, much less acted out! You will definetly deserve
the luxury of kicking back and being proud of that one
when it's all said and done.
Cheers to you!
Thanks JayTree - I have been planning this for many, many years. It's not my first shop - the first one I built was a 36' x 36' and it turned out to be too small with time. I then moved to "the burbs" and had to make do with a double-wide for a few years. I learned a lot from those experiences though and decided this time to incorporate lots of room and a number of ideas I have had over the years. This is going to be my "retirement" home so hopefully it will all be paid for by the time I'm ready to kick back in 10 years or so!!
cyclopsblown34
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Wow Ezzie, this is an incredible build. Thanks for posting it, Chip.
dirty old man
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Looks great! I love the 510 too.
C_F
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I was looking at those pics, thinking 'those things look just like doors'!
Cool idea, I've gotta remember that one.
jonny01blaze
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Wow oh Wow, This garage is MASSSIVE! Now this is what I'm talking about. Great line up inside and I agree with the above, if you have a dually and a Trailer inside with room to manuever, then you know your doing it right.
This is an awesome build to say the least. Can't wait to se it completed.
I'm originally from Newfoundland, but living in Alberta now. The scenery is beautiful in Newfoundland. Definitely some great roads for racing on.
Do you know if there will be another Targa race hosted in NF in the future?
I'm originally from Newfoundland, but living in Alberta now. The scenery is beautiful in Newfoundland. Definitely some great roads for racing on.
Do you know if there will be another Targa race hosted in NF in the future?
RenegadeEngr
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Amazing, that is one helluva building. Keep the pictures coming.....
southernfriedcj
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Ezzie,
Awesome shop!
What are your thoughts on putting the 2x6 studs on 32" centers, as they would stack under the trusses? To prevent racking, metal "T" bracing could be cut in. There might be an issue with the OSB bowing between the studs, but for a shop your size, there would be a savings of 120 studs($1,065. USD). It could be an alternative for someone who wasn't planning on sheathing the walls, just running the metal directly on the studs. The walls would need to be purloined either way (here you have to purloin walls where the sheathing breaks).
Jim
Awesome shop!
What are your thoughts on putting the 2x6 studs on 32" centers, as they would stack under the trusses? To prevent racking, metal "T" bracing could be cut in. There might be an issue with the OSB bowing between the studs, but for a shop your size, there would be a savings of 120 studs($1,065. USD). It could be an alternative for someone who wasn't planning on sheathing the walls, just running the metal directly on the studs. The walls would need to be purloined either way (here you have to purloin walls where the sheathing breaks).
Jim
I suppose it might work but you may need to check with a structural engineer. In my case, I used a local builder that does tons of agricultural and commercial buildings of this size and he recommended the 2" x 6" - 16" OC stud walls I think because I am in a fairly high wind area. He also recommended an application of OSB on the OUTSIDE of the stud wall before strapping it and then applying the steel sheeting. This prevents damage to the thin metal sheeting if something should fall against the wall on the inside in areas where I don't have it insulated or interior sheathed (the 60' x 60' portion). I admit - I have overbuilt this thing a bit but hey - it's going to be my "retirement home".
When we presented the plans to the local municipal building dept. to get the permits, one of the changes they requested from the original plans was to put cross pieces (fire stops?) hrizontally every vertical 4' in the stud walls - which makes it real handy to insulate (uses standard fiberglass batts) and apply the OSB sheeting. I can apply the OSB now either vertically or horizontally and all seams are over a 2" x 6". I'm paying about $8 CDN for a 2" x 6" x 16' grade 2 here right now. Softwood lumber pricing is a bit suppressed here in Canada right now because of the downturn in the US building market (still real healthy here though!!).
When we presented the plans to the local municipal building dept. to get the permits, one of the changes they requested from the original plans was to put cross pieces (fire stops?) hrizontally every vertical 4' in the stud walls - which makes it real handy to insulate (uses standard fiberglass batts) and apply the OSB sheeting. I can apply the OSB now either vertically or horizontally and all seams are over a 2" x 6". I'm paying about $8 CDN for a 2" x 6" x 16' grade 2 here right now. Softwood lumber pricing is a bit suppressed here in Canada right now because of the downturn in the US building market (still real healthy here though!!).
Thanks for the compliments and yes - the Targa race is an annual event in eastern Newfoundland - been running for 6 consecutive years now. This year's event is slated for Sept. 13-20, 2008.
http://www.targanewfoundland.com/home.asp
erda
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Any updates on "The Hanger"?
Thanks for checking in and your interest in this project.
No significant updates to provide yet - the winter was pretty brutal in Feb & Mar so I didn't spend much time in there (no heat). I was busy with the "hunny-do" list as well and got the en-suite bathroom remodelled. Since the thaw I have been busy with yard work and getting my backhoe ready to go again for another season. It had a bad hydraulic leak up under the rad near the pump (Case 580K) so I had to pull the rad & oil cooler out. Had the rad checked and it was almost plugged so did a recore while it is all apart. Putting it back together this week.
Just getting sorted out on what to do for power and natural gas. The gas line was ordered last week (about 6-7 weeks turn around - it is 100m. in and I'll do my own trench work). The power utility rep. (Hydro One) was here this morning to take final measurements so they can send me the build spec. and contract. Around here you have to pay them in advance for the work they will need to do extra to hook you up or they won't schedule the job. They are going to run the 14.4kV in from the road 400' to a pole mounted transformer near the shop and then I'll go underground from there with the 220V/200A about 125' to my meter base. I had to cut down 3 trees so we can get a clear path for the overhead wires - got that done this weekend. I'll get some pics up once I start at this again.
No significant updates to provide yet - the winter was pretty brutal in Feb & Mar so I didn't spend much time in there (no heat). I was busy with the "hunny-do" list as well and got the en-suite bathroom remodelled. Since the thaw I have been busy with yard work and getting my backhoe ready to go again for another season. It had a bad hydraulic leak up under the rad near the pump (Case 580K) so I had to pull the rad & oil cooler out. Had the rad checked and it was almost plugged so did a recore while it is all apart. Putting it back together this week.
Just getting sorted out on what to do for power and natural gas. The gas line was ordered last week (about 6-7 weeks turn around - it is 100m. in and I'll do my own trench work). The power utility rep. (Hydro One) was here this morning to take final measurements so they can send me the build spec. and contract. Around here you have to pay them in advance for the work they will need to do extra to hook you up or they won't schedule the job. They are going to run the 14.4kV in from the road 400' to a pole mounted transformer near the shop and then I'll go underground from there with the 220V/200A about 125' to my meter base. I had to cut down 3 trees so we can get a clear path for the overhead wires - got that done this weekend. I'll get some pics up once I start at this again.
HarashoPuck
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Looks like you are going to have one nice shop to work in.
I am familiar with the trenching and such...LOL
I have probably 1000 feet of orange flexible gas line that I have not, as yet, found a use for.
No Natural gas nearby.
I was lucky getting it at a garage sale, from someone else who thought they needed it, but didn't.
I am familiar with the trenching and such...LOL
I have probably 1000 feet of orange flexible gas line that I have not, as yet, found a use for.
No Natural gas nearby.
I was lucky getting it at a garage sale, from someone else who thought they needed it, but didn't.
porschedude996TT
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Beautiful area, beautiful project. I like the early morning sun over the tree line.
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TheRoadVirus
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Wow, AWESOME garage. I'm blown away by the sheer size of it. This thread has gotten me to post simply because I live in Orangeville. Not often that I see mention of the surrounding areas near where I live. Pretty cool.
Red'n'WhiteRebel
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Welcome aboard Virus. There's a few of us "highway niners " here. I'm just a few tics west of Newmarket. Just don't expect a lot of builds like Ezzies. It's a monster.
TheRoadVirus
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Well, I'm a younger feller (twenty). Off to college in a few months, sad to say I don't have anything to add to this board... yet. Especially since the house my mom/her bf got to move into is a lease.. I don't see the point, but they want to live togethor (lease is only a year, gives them a chance to do a "trial run", I guess)Therefore there isn't much of a purpose in doing anything to the garage. At least my girl ('90 F150 Beast) is relaxing in her own space while I'm off to college.
Red'n'WhiteRebel
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No matter Virus. With a good education you'll be building your own Ezzie shop before you know it. Good luck.
morehead
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Simply Awesome!! Hope to start my build next spring.Did you use a vapour barrier under the door cutouts? I ve seen cutouts used for docks but never for floor insulation-Great Idea.Just alittle west of you (outside of London) after this winter heated flor seems the only way to go.Keep up the great work.Nope - I didn't think much moisture could get past the door cutouts. Two layers of steel with high density foam sandwiched between. I haven't got the system fired up yet so no first impressions yet. The building contractor I used said they use this all the time for workshops and agricultural buildings with radiant in-slab systems and have never heard of any issues. In fact, there was a CMHC (Canadian Mortgage & Housing) study done comparing this method to a couple of other approaches and this system came up with the highest scores.
Nealcrenshaw
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You still there Ezzie?
I wanted to know how thick is the concrete in the work/kitch/wash area? How much of a distance from the top of the pex to the top of the concrete? How large are the catch basins? If i'm correct this is to where the water from eavestroughs,footers,drains,etc. go correct. Great Build!!! Lots of good informative reading i've definitely learned alot from your build
Enjoy that (Warehouse,hangar,)garage.
I wanted to know how thick is the concrete in the work/kitch/wash area? How much of a distance from the top of the pex to the top of the concrete? How large are the catch basins? If i'm correct this is to where the water from eavestroughs,footers,drains,etc. go correct. Great Build!!! Lots of good informative reading i've definitely learned alot from your build
Enjoy that (Warehouse,hangar,)garage.
I don't know how I have missed this build but for some reason I did.... Looks great and is coming along nicely. I know I have seen pictures of parts of it must have been in other threads.... Any more pictures of the build out inside I know that after the shell gets up the work seem to slow down... Keep up the great work!
William...
William...
Conor42
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Oi! More updates!
Time for some more updates ... I have been a bit negligent in keeping this thread up-to-date this summer. It was a challenging summer since my goal was to get the outside work done (landscaping, utilities, driveway, etc.) done as well as some interior walls insulated and my heating system up and running. As you may know, we had one of the wettest summers on record in the Great Lakes area (S.W.Ontario) and it seemed that every time I opened up a trench we got yet another downpour that just mucked everything all up.
I WAS however able to finally get all the utilities into the building as well as about another 500' of drainage tile - but the water table seemed to be resting at only about 3' down for most of the summer.
I'll start of the updates with our "fun" doing the natural gas line in from the nearest sideroad. I trenched about 320' (100 mtrs.) and scheduled the gas guys to come and do their thing.
... and all the toys they brought to play in the sandbox
... and another pic of it
I WAS however able to finally get all the utilities into the building as well as about another 500' of drainage tile - but the water table seemed to be resting at only about 3' down for most of the summer.
I'll start of the updates with our "fun" doing the natural gas line in from the nearest sideroad. I trenched about 320' (100 mtrs.) and scheduled the gas guys to come and do their thing.
... and all the toys they brought to play in the sandbox
... and another pic of it
The gas main was located directly below the bottom of the ditch so they opened it up and prepped their tap device to weld on the "T" off the main gas line. What I found fascinating is they do all this with the main line still under pressure!! In my case they used a 1" yellow plastic service pipe that they adapt to steel fittings at either end.
... and here is the welder down in the hole attaching the "T" assembly.
... and here is the welder down in the hole attaching the "T" assembly.
And then the fun started. While the guys were down in the hole welding the tee onto the gas main, the skys suddenly opened up with a huge downpour of rain and hail stones. The welder had to scramble to get out of the ditch because the water starting flooding in.
A pic of the soggy job site
... and the startup of a trash pump to try and dry things up after the storm passed.
A pic of the soggy job site
... and the startup of a trash pump to try and dry things up after the storm passed.
jaevans
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Wow, what a cool project - wish I had half the money for something like that. By the way, when do you ever find time to play with ham radio when you have projects like this?
73 - john - n0hj
73 - john - n0hj
ProGun3400
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That's what I call a man cave!
RobSmith
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You've got me....My first car was a 1600 import with the crossover wipers. I would be dead now if not for the incredible handling of that little lightweight rocket.