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We have new kids on here all the time asking what tools they need to buy on a budget... Their budget. So here is my question to you, If you were starting from scratch and could spend $400 on tools and only $400, what would you get? (recommend)
For example Several years ago I had a Craftsman box stolen out of my truck it contained hand tools that could do most any road side repair.. alternator, waterpump, starter, thermostat, battery etc...

What should I have gotten to replace them?
 
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Harbor freight 301 piece kit

Breaker bar

$20 craftsman pry bar special

Hammers

Craftsman screwdriver set

As many channel lock pliers with what's left.
 

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Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro sockets (the Taiwan made stuff, its actually really good quality) and the composite ratchets. Grab a 25" breaker bar too from HF also. Wrenches I would probably buy Kobalt, Husky, or Gearwrench (not a fan of the HF wrenches at all).
Not sure what screwdrivers I would get.

Pliers would be channellocks.

A few Craftsman (Wilde made) pry bars. Probably the 3 piece set when it is on sale for $20.

That would be about $200 for a very comprehensive tool set.
 

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U could stretch that $400 even more if u could for sales. Even better if black friday.
But if u want the tools now, then its tough. Regular price Craftsman wrench set with both SAE and mm is $79.95 for example.
 

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I would get a complete 3/8th socket set 6-22mm, Craftsman. A Matco or Snap-on ratchet. Milwakkee hex impact m12 fuel. Craftsman combo wrench raised panel wrench set. Then the HF 4 drawer cart. You have a place to store your tools now.
 

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I'd start with that 250 pc Craftsman set that's on sale right now for $139 and add to that. They'll be a few gasp to fill for the sockets and wrenches, but not too many. Add a set of C Man pry bars, some screwdrivers, and some decent pliers and you're good to hook. And maybe a big hammer for those times you need to persuade something. Or someone.
 

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I would stretch the value of that $400 by buying mainly quality used tools; by being patient and diligently watching c/l & eBay ads and scouring yard sales; by taking advantage of exceptional sales promotions on new, individual sets; and by not buying stuff I don't need or already have.
 

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If that's my budget then I would consider a new career or hobby. Just kidding. Many great suggestions.
 

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I would get a basic metric Wright 3/8 socket set (ratchet and breaker bar included). That would take about $150.

Then I'd get a Craftsman USA (Wildes) small set of pliers, an adjustable Craftsman USA wrench, and one of those Craftsman WF screwdriver sets. There's another $50.

Then Craftsman hammer set and a couple hand saws. Another $50.

The last $100 would be spent on a Milwaukee power drill.
 

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SK ratchets and sockets used focusing on mostly 3/8drive, a few in 1/2 with a 1/2 breaker bar.
Craftsman or SK wrenches, again used.
Fluke 27fm multimeter
Craftsman pro screwdriver set
Craftsman USA pliers
Misc USA ball pein
Used vise grips
1 large C clamp
Craftsman mini pick set
Cman hex key set
Put it all in a sub $50 portable or top tool box with drawers
 

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We have new kids on here all the time asking what tools they need to buy on a budget... Their budget. So here is my question to you, If you were starting from scratch and could spend $400 on tools and only $400, what would you get? (recommend)

For what type of use? Automotive?, General DIY/Homeowner? Other?

What timeframe? Do you have an immediate need or can you invest some time shopping used?
 
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Follow up questions:

You guys recommending Craftsman:
Do you recommend for what Craftsman/Sears used to be or today. I used to recommend them with out a doubt, but in the last 5+ years not so much. Our local Sears went away and the next closest one was a joke.

Used tool prices:
I understand used tools but around here anyone trying to sell a truck brand or Craftsman thinks they have GOLD and quote retail prices. I have to walk away because there is not much of a deal to be had. At their prices you could not get enough tools to do much work for $400 invested.

Used tools wait:
I also understand being patient, but that comes at he expense of not being able to fix anything in the mean time.
 

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Follow up questions:

You guys recommending Craftsman:
Do you recommend for what Craftsman/Sears used to be or today. I used to recommend them with out a doubt, but in the last 5+ years not so much. Our local Sears went away and the next closest one was a joke.

Craftsman is fine. The Craftsman USA stuff is a step up. Even the Chinese stuff will get the job done. All the negative opinions of Chinese Craftsman tools is based on nationalism and perhaps guys trying to justify spending tens of thousands of dollars on Snap On. With all the sales and promotions, Craftsman is an economical alternative.

If your Sears is a joke, you can always order online for store pick up.
 

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A really cheap completed set of sockets and wrenches
Then i would start replacing them with quality tools like snap on. Id go really cheap on the starter set to because most cheap tools have no resale.
 
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For what type of use? Automotive?, General DIY/Homeowner? Other?

What timeframe? Do you have an immediate need or can you invest some time shopping used?

Dave,
This was a hypothetical question, but my thoughts were homeowner with emphasis on fixing things. ie... automotive, bicycles, bed frames, lawnmowers etc...
Timeframe... the sooner the better that way there is not a lot of broken stuff sitting around the house for years...
Oh wait, that is my house. :D
 
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Aren't they all? :lol_hitti

My Sears is pretty nice. The tool section is in the back of the store right next to the merchandise pick up, with it's own parking lot. I don't have to wade through clothing and mattresses. Lots of selection, lots of Craftsman USA, and ridiculously good service.

I find it a good alternative to Home Depot and HF which is 99% Chinese and the tool trucks which I don't have access to and are very expensive.
 

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A lot of great suggestions here, as usual. I know that there have been numerous other threads similar to this. Just cannot put my finger on them right now.

Several years ago I had a Craftsman box stolen out of my truck it contained hand tools that could do most any road side repair.. alternator, waterpump, starter, thermostat, battery etc...

Sounds like you had what you are seeking. What was in the Craftsman box that took a walk? Are you still trying to deal with the same types of repairs?

Used tool prices:
I understand used tools but around here anyone trying to sell a truck brand or Craftsman thinks they have GOLD and quote retail prices. I have to walk away because there is not much of a deal to be had. At their prices you could not get enough tools to do much work for $400 invested.

Sorry to hear this. I see this also, but also I see a lot of deals around here. Not quite as good as many posted on this site, but .... Best opportunities for me have been through estate sales/auctions. Next are the Craigslist opportunities and garage sales. And then some decent deals in GJ Classifieds. eBay I use mainly to buy fillers.

Good luck in your list creation and eventual package of needed tools.
 

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Dave,
This was a hypothetical question, but my thoughts were homeowner with emphasis on fixing things. ie... automotive, bicycles, bed frames, lawnmowers etc...
Timeframe... the sooner the better that way there is not a lot of broken stuff sitting around the house for years...
Oh wait, that is my house. :D

opps well that ruins my post.

An m12 impact driver
assorted bits/nut drivers for the impact
pliers
hammer and a saw
 

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Craftsman 3pc prybar set.
Kobalt ratchets.
Hf 6pt impacts, and earthquake 1/2 impact.
Hf 4 drawer cart.
Gearwrench 12pt chromes.

Think im at $400, if you extreme cuponer it. But that's close enough.
 
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A lot of great suggestions here, as usual. I know that there have been numerous other threads similar to this. Just cannot put my finger on them right now.



Sounds like you had what you are seeking. What was in the Craftsman box that took a walk? Are you still trying to deal with the same types of repairs?



Sorry to hear this. I see this also, but also I see a lot of deals around here. Not quite as good as many posted on this site, but .... Best opportunities for me have been through estate sales/auctions. Next are the Craigslist opportunities and garage sales. And then some decent deals in GJ Classifieds. eBay I use mainly to buy fillers.

Good luck in your list creation and eventual package of needed tools.

Hello, I have replaced most of what was taken and more. It consisted of 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 socket sets, metric and SAE. A set of combination wrenches. Extras- impact universals and 3/8 long flex head ratchet. Pliers, channel locks, vise grips, hammers and screwdriver set. Just a good basic useable tool set with about half truck brand and a mix of others.
 

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I would only buy top of the line (Snap-On, SK, Matco, etc) tools used. A few scratches or dull chrome tool will still turn a bolt. Buy impact sockets first (can use for impact or by hand) then chrome later. That way you don't have to buy the same tools twice.
 
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I would only buy top of the line (Snap-On, SK, Matco, etc) tools used. A few scratches or dull chrome tool will still turn a bolt. Buy impact sockets first (can use for impact or by hand) then chrome later. That way you don't have to buy the same tools twice.

Are you in a place where you can find top of the line tools at reasonable prices?
Around here they bring about 75% retail. At that rate, with $400, it is difficult to get enough tools to do much work.
 

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Your emphasis on immediate would not be mine. After all, I started out with no tools, so all the unfixed things were already unfixed, and could remain so for the time being.

So my hypothetical would differ.

And even if I wanted to fix those things, I could only do one at a time, so I would pick the most urgent, and get tooled up for that.

Still, I would look for used tools, deals, donations from family and friends and CL. I would even put out an ad on CL. I would let everyone I knew, and everyone I met, that I was looking for a, b, and c. I would print up a list with my contact info and post it and hand it out. I would hit all the garage sales.

And thus would acquire the things I needed in the order of most needed first.

A particular dollar limit would not be in place. Need, and available funds would rule.

Part of the problem that many of us here on GJ fall prey to, is the "collector" mentality.

We collect tools for a future need that may never arise.

We get on kicks about one type or color or brand of tool and collect them far beyond need.

We buy tools based on COO, or quality levels that exceed the need for the use the tool will see.

What kind of use, and what kind of user?

Putting a switch plate cover on, the cheapest screwdriver of the right size will do.
$1 China tools do a lot of tasks. I've found $1 China stocking stuffers from Lowes worked great. They included cutter sets, ASE and metric wrench sets, socket sets complete with ratchet and T handle bit sets. All found uses. A dollar won't get you a professional framing hammer, but it might get you something to hang a picture with.

So, for me, it has been a combination of cheap new, bought on sale, and better used tools that filled the needs.

As to specific tools, beyond buying to fill immediate needs, there are lots of guides online that tell what basic tools a household needs. Add to that list any tools specific to tasks the particular individual will want to attempt. It would be senseless to get automotive tools to someone who won't change a flat or do a brake job or change his own oil. Likewise, woodworking or metalworking tools shouldn't be in the possession of someone who won't use them.
Even home maintenance tools should match the abilities and inclinations of that person.

Some people should just spend the $400 on some good meals out.

And some people will spend it on the latest gold plated tool that they will never use.

Sorry for the non answer. It just seemed too broad a question, and kind of rhetorical..

Me, I have a little of everything, much of it unused. And yet I can never find the tool I need when I need it. And I always need a tool I don't have. Does that ever happen to you?

Bill
 

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Are you in a place where you can find top of the line tools at reasonable prices?
Around here they bring about 75% retail. At that rate, with $400, it is difficult to get enough tools to do much work.

Agree, used SO, is still several thousand in total, compared to lets say there equivalant of basics like....
Craftsman 3pc prybar set.
Kobalt ratchets.
Hf 6pt impacts, and earthquake 1/2 impact.
Hf 4 drawer cart.
Gearwrench 12pt chromes.

Think im at $400, if you extreme cuponer it. But that's close enough.
 

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This Sears 3/8 set for $70 would be a great start....standard and deep in both metric and SAE. The better Crafstman ratchet....a few extensions.

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Then Id add a good screwdriver set

Wera set that would cover the basics....chiseldriver and allows for use with a wrench.

$43

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Then Id buy some decent wrenches.

The Williams Supercombo......metric and SAE set cost about $177.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FHKHJA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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Crafstman 1/4 drive set $86


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That leaves me $25 - Id use that to pick up a few basic pliers.

Crafstman pliers set $29

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........and Id build on past that.

Now if ALL I was ever able to spend in life was $400.....well this would leave me lacking ALOT......but its a hell of a start with some fairly decent tools.

Yeah.....Craftsman aint what it once was.....but Ive never broke a socket, even if it was from China. Those ratchets in the kits are a far cry better than the raised panel cheapies.....which is actually what I started out with.

These tools would last you awhile and would likely not need replaced for better quality ones unless you become a professional wrench.
 
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id budget the first $50 for gasoline...

and then grab up someone you enjoy spending time with that shares the same intrest,..

on a Saturday morning (its summer)

and enjoy a day of garage saleing with a purpose..

I bet you would find what you need in one day, and not spend half the 350 you have left..
 

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My Sears is pretty nice. The tool section is in the back of the store right next to the merchandise pick up, with it's own parking lot. I don't have to wade through clothing and mattresses. Lots of selection, lots of Craftsman USA, and ridiculously good service.

I find it a good alternative to Home Depot and HF which is 99% Chinese and the tool trucks which I don't have access to and are very expensive.

I find that hard to believe. Either you haven't been there in a while or they dont sell any tools. Buy me all socket,wrench sets are all China along with 75% of loose stock
 

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Start with a craftsman mechanics tools set that has 1/4,3/8 & 1/2 drive sockets and ratchets. But of course I would wait until said item is on sale. Then fill the gaps and extra hand tools from HF.
 

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I would go to Biltema which is the equivalent of HF in Finland and buy everything from there.Drill, angle grinder, socket set, combination wrench set, bit driver set, screwdrivers, 16 oz ball peen hammer, a few types of pliers, hex keys, box cutter, i'd try to cover as much as i could for the money.
 

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Dave,
This was a hypothetical question, but my thoughts were homeowner with emphasis on fixing things. ie... automotive, bicycles, bed frames, lawnmowers etc...
Timeframe... the sooner the better that way there is not a lot of broken stuff sitting around the house for years...
Oh wait, that is my house. :D

My suggestion would be to start with the absolute basics and as your homeowner/DIY projects require different tools go out and buy them on an "as needed" basis. This also gives you an opportunity (ie time) to look for quality used.

For $400 you won't be able to get everything you need at the outset.

Absolute "get started" basics:
- 3/8" Metric and SAE socket set
- SAE and Metric combo wrench set
- Plier set with some vise grips
- Screwdriver set
- Adjustable wrenches - several sizes
- Cordless drill
- LED flashlight
- DMM
- Hammer (small and large)
- A few files
- Hacksaw
- Carpenters saw
- Bench Vise

Despite the bashing, you'll do OK with CM, HF or Kobalt. Buy what's on sale. I think the $400 will get you all of the above with some careful shopping.

The "HF pass/fail thread" will be your best resource.
 
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