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drivesitfar

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VooDoo: welcome to the vise thread and garage journal's forum. i have to say your little Craftsman looks a helluva lot better than my new in the box semi rusty one. also i think you have Fretter's burgundy color he puts on almost all of his vises (vices for his side of the big pond).

cheers and you've inspired me to restore a new in the box 30 or 40 year old one now.
 
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Thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking for quite a while, and have frequented Jockeyjournal for quite some time. Great websights. I figured i should slow down a bit and take some pictures so other people can get as much satisfaction as i get out of viewing their projects.
The paint is Krylon burgundy from wal-mart. I usually have a rule about no krylon, but i broke it this once as i have recently moved and didn't have time to scour all the new stores finding a shade of red i liked in another brand.
 

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Here is an Athol / Starrett 924-1/2 that I got from drivesitfar. It cleaned up real nice. Factory smooth jaws... Slide is nice and tight fit and has just a few tiny cuts on the top back, but otherwise it's so clean and unused you can see all the machine marks on it.

Went with the Rustoleum Deep Blue (only a hair darker than Safety Blue :( ), and white lettering. I was going to do it with black lettering at first but figured I would try the white and I'm glad I did, it really pops!

Had a bunch of pits from the original casting, when I stripped it down you could see where they were filled in originally with some sort of filler. Also the seam down the middle is very noticeable on the insides. I filled in most of the pits with JB Weld since it was really a cosmetic thing. Sanded down smooth. Tried not to get it too perfect as I wanted it to blend with the rest of the vise.

I bought a bronze thrust bearing to use on the front, but that extra thickness made the spring inside impossible to get compressed so it didn't get used. I'm not sure how I feel about that spring setup vs just a regular collar to keep the spindle locked in place. The tension the spring creates allows the handle to stay at any angle.
 

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drivesitfar

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Jason: awesome job and can I ask for it back?:D

All: in case Jason forgot to take any before pictures here are a few so you all can see what a pro he is.
 

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Here is an Athol / Starrett 924-1/2 that I got from drivesitfar. It cleaned up real nice. Factory smooth jaws... Slide is nice and tight fit and has just a few tiny cuts on the top back, but otherwise it's so clean and unused you can see all the machine marks on it.

Went with the Rustoleum Deep Blue (only a hair darker than Safety Blue :( ), and white lettering. I was going to do it with black lettering at first but figured I would try the white and I'm glad I did, it really pops!

Had a bunch of pits from the original casting, when I stripped it down you could see where they were filled in originally with some sort of filler. Also the seam down the middle is very noticeable on the insides. I filled in most of the pits with JB Weld since it was really a cosmetic thing. Sanded down smooth. Tried not to get it too perfect as I wanted it to blend with the rest of the vise.

I bought a bronze thrust bearing to use on the front, but that extra thickness made the spring inside impossible to get compressed so it didn't get used. I'm not sure how I feel about that spring setup vs just a regular collar to keep the spindle locked in place. The tension the spring creates allows the handle to stay at any angle.

Jason: awesome job and can I ask for it back?:D

All: in case Jason forgot to take any before pictures here are a few so you all can see what a pro he is.

Very Nice Work Jason! (as usual...)
Way to show the "before pics" Drivesitfar, it really makes his work "POP"!
 
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oldldh

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That reminds me...

I've got to get off my lazy ****, and get my Starrett 925 finished...

Football season messes up my projects...
 

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What was the excuse two months ago? :see:

:evil:

Well let's see...

I'm old...

I'm lazy...

It's too hot...

It's football season...

It is half finished...

I'll go with---"I'm too old, and too lazy"...

Lame excuses, but they're all I've got...so I'll go with them...
 

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Hi guys

Has anyone heard or seen a catalog reference to a Reed 109 1/2?

Edit: Whoops. After having some more pumpkin pie, finding a reference pic and squeezing my head in a vise, The third number starts to look more like a three.

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Graham

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Yep, confirmed as a 103 1/2 R. He wants $30, located in London, ON. Link here if someone wants it.

Thrumcap
:canadian:
 

Outlawmws

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Well let's see...

I'm old...

I'm lazy...

It's too hot...

It's football season...

It is half finished...

I'll go with---"I'm too old, and too lazy"...

Lame excuses, but they're all I've got...so I'll go with them...

You left out "I'm retired I don't need an Excuse!" :lol:

:beer:
 

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Jason; Here is an Athol / Starrett 924-1/2 that I got from drivesitfar. It cleaned up real nice. Factory smooth jaws... Slide is nice and tight fit and has just a few tiny cuts on the top back, but otherwise it's so clean and unused you can see all the machine marks on it.

Very nice work there Jason !


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brats.n.harleys

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brats.n.harleys.---Is that a piece of water main for the post on your stand?---And how did you make the ends on the handle?---Haven't seen any like that before.

That's mighty pretty work on both accounts.
The stand and flanges are all from old sprinkler systems. The bottom flange is 16" and over 100lb. 8" heavy wall for the main stand. The ends on the handle are just aluminum ones I turned on my lathe. The handle shaft I'd drilled and tapped for then to screw into.
 

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Interesting vise that is local to me. CL Title is WW II era 28lb MasterCraft Anvil Vice

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Asking 100, but haven't seen these vises before. I am guessing, 100 is a bit steep, but thoughts?

If anything, it looks kinda cool.
 

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I can't believe someone put that on their car to take a pic...and I can't believe that they are asking $100 for a 28lb exposed screw vise but it may be rare and I'm the fool.
 
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Nines: they are not that rare and good eye seeing it is on a car.

S2: I've seen several in my area for under $40 and since they are not that heavy and are open screw i didn't even want to pay that for it. i think they might have had several makers names on them too.

Oldie: so is the garage back to a reasonable 80 degrees yet while we are starting to freeze up here in the north? how about posting another picture of your Starrett so you can do the before and it looks like Outlaw started the clock. i'm guessing it is in pretty good shape since you bought from Macklin and he got the good third of the Golden Pile. cheers and best of luck.

by the way we won't expect you to out do Jason's masterpiece and maybe a little boiled linseed if you can't find any "arrest me red".
 

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While visiting the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris, CA, I saw a large unlabeled but appears to be a very large swivel jaw Prentiss #6 vise with 7" flat jaws. From SweetD posting of a Prentiss ad, the #6 was the largest "self adjusting machinist vise" that Prentiss made. It was listed at 184 lbs. The vise was in pretty nice shape for its age, except for the typical crack on the top of the slide.. It makes my #3 (4.5" jaw width) look positively small - though mine fortunately was not abused and has no crack.

I suspect they had even bigger stuff in the machine shop (barn) but that was closed to the public. It looks like they get some support from the railroads as Union Pacific was having their company picnic at the museum.
 

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va.grouseman

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Originally posted by brats.n.harleys

The stand and flanges are all from old sprinkler systems. The bottom flange is 16" and over 100lb. 8" heavy wall for the main stand. The ends on the handle are just aluminum ones I turned on my lathe. The handle shaft I'd drilled and tapped for then to screw into-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now that's how you recycle.---Good choice of material to, plenty of anchor holes in the bottom flange.
 

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I can't believe someone put that on their car to take a pic...and I can't believe that they are asking $100 for a 28lb exposed screw vise but it may be rare and I'm the fool.

Does craigslist ever cease to amaze? :lol_hitti

Interesting that it seems to have a pretty fine pitch compared to most.
 

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I got a call from one of my sources today with this little beauty. A Cole! This is the third one I've tried to get and this is the nicest. He wanted $60.00 which isn't too bad. What do you guys think? I think it will look great restored. I believe I will keep this one..
 

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Joe, I had a real nice one last year and finally sold it for about $60, still had good paint and everything.
 

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JP: it looks like a nice one with all the nice lettering cast on it. in case you do get it here's an option one member had that worked and is a nice addition to it if you can find the drill option.

also another picture of a Cole vise mounted on a homemade stand.

good luck and i'm sure you'll get it because the force is strong in your shop.
 

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JP: it looks like a nice one with all the nice lettering cast on it. in case you do get it here's an option one member had that worked and is a nice addition to it if you can find the drill option.

also another picture of a Cole vise mounted on a homemade stand.

good luck and i'm sure you'll get it because the force is strong in your shop.

Sorry I wasn't clear, it's mine I just have to pick it up. :thumbup:

The one with the stand is missing the anvil. I love the drill option.

This one is staying with my shop. I like the rotation of the jaws for pipe work.
 

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I just picked this vise up at a garage sale. it looks like a mechanics vise what i was wondering is there any way of telling when this vise was made . it says schiller park on here it says that factory closed in 2002. so it has to be older than that , I didnt know if there was any marking or type of date code , like the machinist vises that have the date stamped in the keyway . ive looked it all over and dont see anything that show's a date. thanks for any help ahead of time
 

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Reed 406 Rear swivel

well i brought it home tonight the guy would not budge one dollar on it i cleaned it up a little to take a couple picks the rear pin is froze up but everything else worked freely the swivel handles had a large gob of grease inside each one which was cool loosened them with my fingers when i went to spin the swivel to line the other draw bolt up the large pivot screw turned screwed it out with my fingers and the jaws are really nice, one of the balls fell off from the handle and it looks like they practiced welding some letters on the other ball go figure.
a nice polished handle turned up and the rear jaw un frozen this ones a keeper
been looking for a large rear swivel for a while and this thing is heavy,
oh look at the tag that will be going back on it
 

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Re: Reed 406 Rear swivel

well i brought it home tonight the guy would not budge one dollar on it i cleaned it up a little to take a couple picks the rear pin is froze up but everything else worked freely the swivel handles had a large gob of grease inside each one which was cool loosened them with my fingers when i went to spin the swivel to line the other draw bolt up the large pivot screw turned screwed it out with my fingers and the jaws are really nice, one of the balls fell off from the handle and it looks like they practiced welding some letters on the other ball go figure.
a nice polished handle turned up and the rear jaw un frozen this ones a keeper
been looking for a large rear swivel for a while and this thing is heavy,
oh look at the tag that will be going back on it

Worth it !!! That's going to be great when your finished!

Any idea if not having patent dates on it is because it's seventeen years
after the last patent date or before the patents were even issued?


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Re: Reed 406 Rear swivel

well i brought it home tonight the guy would not budge one dollar on it i cleaned it up a little to take a couple picks the rear pin is froze up but everything else worked freely the swivel handles had a large gob of grease inside each one which was cool loosened them with my fingers when i went to spin the swivel to line the other draw bolt up the large pivot screw turned screwed it out with my fingers and the jaws are really nice, one of the balls fell off from the handle and it looks like they practiced welding some letters on the other ball go figure.
a nice polished handle turned up and the rear jaw un frozen this ones a keeper
been looking for a large rear swivel for a while and this thing is heavy,
oh look at the tag that will be going back on it

I know its rude but did it $$ you? $, $$ or $$$?
 

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Re: Reed 406 Rear swivel

Worth it !!! That's going to be great when your finished!

Any idea if not having patent dates on it is because it's seventeen years
after the last patent date or before the patents were even issued?


.

i didn't even see a date on but i was not looking either but i will
 
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