Hot Chop shop
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That walker turner is in great shape!
I love mine it's probably one of my favorite tools.
I love mine it's probably one of my favorite tools.
Show us your cool, "old" drill press
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Fretters
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Picked this one up the other week. It's a Union. It's missing the base and table, as the previous owner bought the drill specifically for those two pieces. Got this along with a belt driven grinder for the princely sum of a tenner. Figured that with it already having been parted out by someone else, this would be a perfect candidate for making a drill part way between bench and floor drill height, for those jobs which are slightly too tall for the bench drill. Using clocks as a reference point, making it into a grandmother size drill. 
It appears to be the same as the Champion one which was posted a few pages back, so not sure which company actually made these.
It appears to be the same as the Champion one which was posted a few pages back, so not sure which company actually made these.
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Nowater
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Unplug the unit and find where the power cord enters the motor. Unscrew the cover plate there and look inside. Take a close up photograph before you contemplate changing any of the connections.
Some motors can be rewired from 120 to 240 at this location. Some can have the rotation changed here. Some motors have a small instruction, such as' "Put lead 5 on terminal 7 and lead 7 on terminal 5 to reverse direction." You get the idea. Take a minute and look there first.
nice find...it certainly looks like its cast from a similar mold to my champion although the main drill spindle looks to have a more sturdy chuck and pulley keywayPicked this one up the other week. It's a Union. It's missing the base and table, as the previous owner bought the drill specifically for those two pieces. Got this along with a belt driven grinder for the princely sum of a tenner. Figured that with it already having been parted out by someone else, this would be a perfect candidate for making a drill part way between bench and floor drill height, for those jobs which are slightly too tall for the bench drill. Using clocks as a reference point, making it into a grandmother size drill.
It appears to be the same as the Champion one which was posted a few pages back, so not sure which company actually made these.
Fretters
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The chuck on that one is one of those old, two jaw types. The type which is more like something you'd find on a lathe than a drill. Looking at yours has given me something to work on trying to make some form of usable drive setup on this one, as the pulley arm assembly and at least one of the pulleys for the 90 degree intermediate pulley setup is missing. That large pulley mounts on the rod which fits in the bottom of the column, so there's going to be some creative adaptation needing done on this one, whether I go for straight line drive or try to reinstate the 90 degree setup.
PWRstroke_smoke
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Craigslist find
When i got it:
As of this afternoon:
When i got it:
As of this afternoon:
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Fretters
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That definitely looks peachier now. Shame about the grey though. 
Shame about the grey though. PWRstroke_smoke
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couldnt stand the gold!!
and this was the same gray color my grandfather used on all of his shop equipment restorations. in memory of grandpa!
and this was the same gray color my grandfather used on all of his shop equipment restorations. in memory of grandpa!
Fretters
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You've done him credit with that resto'. Aye, gold is a bit flashy. Grey is a good neutral colour. It's just one of the three colours lathered on most everything I've seen, so much so, that it's become one of *those* colours. Yellow and light/mid blue are the other two. You can only strip so much of a certain colour before you begin to dislike it with a passion.
Saying that though, the machine I'm currently reassembling is being left in its previous livery for the time being. Guess what colour that mainly is?
Aye, gold is a bit flashy. Grey is a good neutral colour. It's just one of the three colours lathered on most everything I've seen, so much so, that it's become one of *those* colours. Yellow and light/mid blue are the other two. You can only strip so much of a certain colour before you begin to dislike it with a passion. Saying that though, the machine I'm currently reassembling is being left in its previous livery for the time being. Guess what colour that mainly is?
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rt dak
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Un-restored Delta DP 220. I believe it's from 1939.
Tyberius
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Hello,
I just picked this up from Craigslist over the weekend.
I don't know anything about it, except it is better than the drill press I had, which was nothing.
Anybody have any insight into this thing? Where to look? Actually I don't even know if it is "old". Thanks in advance.
I just picked this up from Craigslist over the weekend.
I don't know anything about it, except it is better than the drill press I had, which was nothing.
Anybody have any insight into this thing? Where to look? Actually I don't even know if it is "old". Thanks in advance.
jakemac
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"Conehead" ........ I've never heard of that brand before. Is it an import from Remulak ? 
Tyberius
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I don't think that is the brand, just maybe a sticker the guy made for it. It looks like it was repainted. It also looks like the pic here (not my image):
But the site it's on is down
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=n3IKwGbPTza9SM&tbnid=Zuff6h0KLWSIYM:&ved=0CAYQjB0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobby-machinist.com%2Fshowthread.php%2F24767-Restoring-a-drill-press&ei=mfkyVK_3MYT0yASspoHQCw&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&psig=AFQjCNEUNLtbLCoSWYV5gMq7jbmq3zmFJg&ust=1412713229907873
And I haven't found anything else like it using google image search
But the site it's on is down
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&docid=n3IKwGbPTza9SM&tbnid=Zuff6h0KLWSIYM:&ved=0CAYQjB0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hobby-machinist.com%2Fshowthread.php%2F24767-Restoring-a-drill-press&ei=mfkyVK_3MYT0yASspoHQCw&bvm=bv.76802529,d.aWw&psig=AFQjCNEUNLtbLCoSWYV5gMq7jbmq3zmFJg&ust=1412713229907873
And I haven't found anything else like it using google image search
jakemac
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I suppose you'd have to be older to get the joke. 
I'm 27, I get it.I suppose you'd have to be older to get the joke.
bisley45
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that conehead is a Power king tool corp drill press probably from the 40s
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=3261
http://www.vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=3261
Tyberius
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Thanks bisley
Inside the pulley housing:
And on the motor mount:
Would the 42 be the year?
Or would 50 be a better year?
Inside the pulley housing:
And on the motor mount:
Would the 42 be the year?
Or would 50 be a better year?
bisley45
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Could be.
joe.striper
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Thanks bisley
Inside the pulley housing:
And on the motor mount:
Would the 42 be the year?
Or would 50 be a better year?
I may be way off but I think those are simply part numbers for the pieces they are cast in.
You will probably pay 1/2 that or more for a proper switch and plate but you scored, real nice drill!
Tyberius
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You're probably right. The machine appears to be about that vintage though. I found a similar machine on the hobby machinist, though his had the wrong chuck. Mine appears to be correct.
jabberwoki
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That's a nice old beasty.
drivesitfar
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Joe: i have yet to post some pictures of my Walker Turner bench top DP because i'm trying to set up my shop and wanted to post some where it will sit instead of on the floor. that said i know you are wanting the original switch and mine i'm pretty sure is and it's on the side and not in front.
good luck in your search.
All: my bench top Walker Turner drill press. it's 100% original i was told and seems to be so let me know if it's not. i can use the reducer because i'll probably be drilling more metal than wood and if anybody has one to sell me please PM me. thanks
good luck in your search.
All: my bench top Walker Turner drill press. it's 100% original i was told and seems to be so let me know if it's not. i can use the reducer because i'll probably be drilling more metal than wood and if anybody has one to sell me please PM me. thanks
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Got mine off CL, was estate sale. asked $50 got it for $35. with the stand. I believe it is from the late 1930's. I think the model is 101.03580.
I cleaned it up a bit, where can I find the right belt and the 3rd pulley kit?
Plan on doing some metal drilling; I'm a hobby welder among other things.
Used it a bit here and there so far, recently rebuilt my deck and drilled all the posts and balusters but the belt is all chunked so I'm running it at the slowest speed for now.
I cleaned it up a bit, where can I find the right belt and the 3rd pulley kit?
Plan on doing some metal drilling; I'm a hobby welder among other things.
Used it a bit here and there so far, recently rebuilt my deck and drilled all the posts and balusters but the belt is all chunked so I'm running it at the slowest speed for now.
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Alexbn921
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Thanks to garage journal, I am the proud owner of a 1957 Delta Rockwell Drill Press. I was in a San Francisco hotels workshop for the last 57 years.
It took 6 months to complete but it is worth it to have an awesome old Drill press. Thanks for the inspiration.
No model number but most likely a 15- 412. The serial is 119-3181,with the help of vintagemachinery.org dates it as 1957.
The best part is that it has the 3 pull slow speed setup. Only a 1/3hp motor, but that will be more than enuff for me.
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It took 6 months to complete but it is worth it to have an awesome old Drill press. Thanks for the inspiration.
No model number but most likely a 15- 412. The serial is 119-3181,with the help of vintagemachinery.org dates it as 1957.
The best part is that it has the 3 pull slow speed setup. Only a 1/3hp motor, but that will be more than enuff for me.
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jakemac
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I think I'd date that one a little earlier. The early 40's DP's had a 4-arm handle and an on/off switch on the head with a rectangular switch plate. The mid-late 30's DP's had a 3-arm handle and an on/off switch on the head with an oval switch plate. Yours has a 2-arm handle and no switch on the head. I'd put a date range on it from the early to mid 30's.
Any V-belt will work for that DP. Take it off and bring it to the nearest NAPA (or other auto store) and they should have one in stock. Check your pulleys to make sure there aren't any dings or chips that are going to eat the new belt.
The speed reducer set-up won't be easy to find, and will be expensive when it turns up. Keep an eye on ebay, or check CL for a cheap donor DP that you can get one off of.
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drivesitfar
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JT: nice find on the old Craftsman DP. You'll probably spend a lot of time searching for the extra wheel to slow down the DP for metal and it looks like you might need a mounting bracket too. or is it there and i can't see it? for the price you paid it's probably still worth it.
Alex: amazing restoration and it looks like it has almost all or maybe 100% of original parts. nice job and looks like you have a perfect spot for yours.
Alex: amazing restoration and it looks like it has almost all or maybe 100% of original parts. nice job and looks like you have a perfect spot for yours.
Great job on the restoration.
Can you pop that speed reducer out and take a photo of the bottom of it? That looks homemade. To my knowledge those never had a factory 3rd pulley setup, just either a high or low set of pulleys. I've got the floor model of that with a production table. Biggest pain in the rear is the switch wiring routing. 
Alexbn921
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Thanks. It is 99% original down to every screw and bolt. The only thing missing was the knob that stops the handle from moving. Its spring loaded so it not that big of a deal. If I can find one though I will pick it up.
I used Goodyear Engineered Products Torque-Flex V-Belt. Much high quality than the Napa ones that I ended up taking back. The Napa ones where not as flexible and had a raise portion at the joint.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004HFRW32/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Great job on the restoration.
The center pulley was a factory option on the drill press and has the numbers stamped into it. The bottom is round and fits over the end of the column with a very tight friction fit and has a set screw.
GirchyGirchy
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New ones are still made, if you don't mind the price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WALKER-TURN...397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c924f9a45
Dennis Leigh Henry
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My South Bend Lathe 14" drill press.... and accessories from SBL
Hi/Lo speed attachment..
Head Elevator..
Morse Taper #2 spindle
(a couple more picts to follow... )
Hi/Lo speed attachment..
Head Elevator..
Morse Taper #2 spindle
(a couple more picts to follow... )
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drivesitfar
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Dennis: awesome restoration on your old DP. while i don't know what all those parts are (yet) that you have and are showing i bet they are not easily found if needed so happy to see you own them. I'd like to see a YouTube video of some of those special tools in action if you care to make one or provide a link if you know of one or more to watch.
Alex: Pretty sweet restoration and great pictures you posted. i bet it makes you smile just looking over at it even if you haven't used it in a while.
GG: if i used my Walker Turner DP more the $200 wouldn't be as big of an issue, but thanks for posting that new one up that i already knew about.I'll keep looking for a nice original slightly used one until that changes and i really need one.
Alex: Pretty sweet restoration and great pictures you posted. i bet it makes you smile just looking over at it even if you haven't used it in a while.
GG: if i used my Walker Turner DP more the $200 wouldn't be as big of an issue, but thanks for posting that new one up that i already knew about.I'll keep looking for a nice original slightly used one until that changes and i really need one.
Dennis Leigh Henry
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Will do.. They're definitely hard to find attachments (except the high speed attachment and the newer hold down). As I find picts or other info or use them, I'll post.
The mortising attachment holds a chisel bit to "machine" square holes in wood for example. More later.
Cheers
not too cool, but it is older than me. It is a westcraft (western auto). If I would have seen it in person, I would not have bid on it. oh well lessened learned. spent 85 dollars. got it home took it apart and cleaned it and put some powder coat on it. it works, it drills and it's tight.
schor
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not too cool, but it is older than me. It is a westcraft (western auto). If I would have seen it in person, I would not have bid on it. oh well lessened learned. spent 85 dollars. got it home took it apart and cleaned it and put some powder coat on it. it works, it drills and it's tight.
Looks fine to me for $85. Nice job cleaning it up.