The VISES of Garage Journal

jreb10 · Dec 25, 2014

After soaking I rubbed everything down and reassembled:

The Adams name down the side of the dynamic jaw:

A patent date on the back of the static jaw:

A look at the slide where the old paint line contrasts with bare metal:

The color looks green, I had no idea they used that color.

demoman · Dec 25, 2014

Nice Adams vise. I never knew what color they should be. There were a lot of them around here as they must have been a hardware store item. Really useful vise back then for a farmer.

Merry Christmas to all the vise addict

rayh · Dec 25, 2014

Great job restoring this vise, so glad you kept the original paint.

mcmlvif100 · Dec 25, 2014

Beautiful restoration. Great condition for ~100 year old vise. Keeping the original paint was definitely the right approach.

Scimonetti · Dec 25, 2014

I could maybe add something like this to the pedestal base. It would have to be a different shape but right now I'm really trying to find excuses to take home a 6-7 inch vise!

drivesitfar · Dec 25, 2014

JReb: nice restoration on the Adams. hard to believe it looked that nice under the rust.

Jake: i would suggest you go to see the 5197 in person so you can see why Oldie and all of us that own one really like them. also maybe take your 6 inch Columbian and see if the seller will trade you. i know you will love that Craftsman vise better even though it's not as big.

SC: if it's cheap enough i like you idea of building some support stand for it like the big Prentiss you posted or just buy it for a Parts vise so you can own the biggest Trojan we know of.

ALL: Merry Christmas to all my vise and GJ friends and here's to finding pictures of or buying the 695 pound Pittsburg and the 300 pound Craftsman in 2015. cheers

jakemac · Dec 25, 2014

drivesitfar said:
Jake: i would suggest you go to see the 5197 in person so you can see why Oldie and all of us that own one really like them. also maybe take your 6 inch Columbian and see if the seller will trade you. i know you will love that Craftsman vise better even though it's not as big.

I'm not giving up my 6" (unless it's for an 8"). :lol:

Besides, something tells me that we may not have seen the last of that 5197 here at GJ. :dunno:

97fordsuper · Dec 25, 2014

Merry Christmas everyone. I wanted to post pics of my haul from this week. Had an el cheapo vise until now.

First one is a Wilton C1
Second is a Reed 406R swivel jaw
Third on is another Reed its a 206
Fourth is a Morgan 160

The only problem is the base on the Reed 406 is cracked. Its been brazed but its cracked from the braze. Is it possible to find a new base? If not I will try to find someone to repair it. Thanks for any info you can share with me.

454ragtop · Dec 25, 2014

Merry Xmas, and here's a gift for someone I think, late Prentiss 5" with the brake shoe type swivel base in CT http://www.ebay.com/itm/361128881330?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Have had it in my watch list for a while, thinking I'd try to get down that way, but that's really not practical at this time. As always, especially with a Prentiss, needs a good in person examination, but appears to be in excellent condition.
Jim

drivesitfar · Dec 25, 2014

97: that is some haul. the Wilton C1 is probably their best homeowner vise they make. the Reeds are keepers and a 150 pound Morgan just to round it out. Can i ask where you might have found all those nice vises? good haul.

Jake: i'm pretty sure the 5197 you posted is the one Joe was mentioning that he has a bead on and reserved. i own a fair amount of 6 inch vises and i'd probably sell any of them before i sell my 5197. it's a great looking vise spiffed up like the ones Big Caddy has shown us a few of his.

97fordsuper · Dec 25, 2014

drivesitfar said:
97: that is some haul. the Wilton C1 is probably their best homeowner vise they make. the Reeds are keepers and a 150 pound Morgan just to round it out. Can i ask where you might have found all those nice vises? good haul.

Jake: i'm pretty sure the 5197 you posted is the one Joe was mentioning that he has a bead on and reserved. i own a fair amount of 6 inch vises and i'd probably sell any of them before i sell my 5197. it's a great looking vise spiffed up like the ones Big Caddy has shown us a few of his.

I answered an ad for a vulcan anvil. Turned out to be someone I knew. He told me he had a couple vises and I ended up getting all of them. They belonged to a late relative of his (who I also knew), and he's just trying to clean up.

drivesitfar · Dec 25, 2014

97: awesome. that's how I've found and bought a few of mine too. if you decide to spiff any or all of them up can you post the before and after pictures over on the Vise Repair 101 thread because we do need more big vises over on it? Also post a few pictures of your broken swivel and maybe some of us will have some ideas for a fix or maybe have one from a parts vise to sell you.

bluebolt · Dec 25, 2014

454ragtop said:
Hey guys, been away from here a little bit. Damn, this thread moves fast. Anyway, here's a couple pics of a vise stand I just built, and a smaller Columbian I did a quicky restore on. The 3.5" Reed on the vise stand is one I picked up for $10., missing the swivel base. No luck with finding a swivel, and on closer inspection after cleaning it up, it had lived a pretty hard life. Lots of hammering on the slide, if it was a Prentiss it probably wouldn't have survived, had to file it down to get it out of the static jaw. So I drilled another mounting hole on the other side, and put the stand together out of stuff I had hanging around. Haven't decided if I'm going to paint it yet. Plan to use it mostly for welding. The little Columbian was in near mint condition, but had a lot of paint dripped on it, so cleaned it up and repainted AMR.
Jim

I like how you built that stand. Flywheel for a base? Good use for a missing swivel base vise, I have a Reed 203 missing the base I have thought about doing the same with.

97fordsuper · Dec 25, 2014

drivesitfar said:
97: awesome. that's how I've found and bought a few of mine too. if you decide to spiff any or all of them up can you post the before and after pictures over on the Vise Repair 101 thread because we do need more big vises over on it? Also post a few pictures of your broken swivel and maybe some of us will have some ideas for a fix or maybe have one from a parts vise to sell you.

Yes, I plan on spiffin all of them up. I will definitely take pictures. Who knows when that will be.Right now I'm still in the dreaming stage of my garage. I need to quit buying stuff to go in a garage. I will get more pictures of the cracked base soon.

Scimonetti · Dec 25, 2014

Santa was good to me and picked me up this groz 5 inch vise. Brand new from an industrial supplier in Toronto. German made I believe, although it doesn't have anything on it. It's about 45 pounds but has very little play.

drivesitfar · Dec 25, 2014

SC: that is the coolest paint job I've seen on a vise since Ritzblitz's sister painted his Reed 1C. is that a new vise or did you or your dad or friend restore it? care to share the color and brand of paint or how it was done if you know. here's Ritzblitz's Reed so you can see in case you missed it a few months ago.

balane · Dec 25, 2014

He said it was new from an industrial supplier in Canada and I agree, that's tough looking paint.

Merry Christmas everybody.

Scimonetti · Dec 25, 2014

drivesitfar said:
SC: that is the coolest paint job I've seen on a vise since Ritzblitz's sister painted his Reed 1C. is that a new vise or did you or your dad or friend restore it? care to share the color and brand of paint or how it was done if you know. here's Ritzblitz's Reed so you can see in case you missed it a few months ago.

That Reed is awesome!

Scimonetti · Dec 25, 2014

balane said:
He said it was new from an industrial supplier in Canada and I agree, that's tough looking paint.

Merry Christmas everybody.

Merry Christmas! I'm 95% sure it's indian actually.

I really can't find much info on it but it seems to be pretty nice. Very smooth but tight and well finished. I won't be tempted to baby it too much either

balane · Dec 25, 2014

Hmm, I've seen some BBQ paint with that finish before. I don't think all the brands of BBQ paint do that but I've definitely seen some that end up with that finish. It looks cool.

Outlawmws · Dec 25, 2014

It's wrinkle paint. Kennedy uses it on all their brown boxes.

oldldh · Dec 25, 2014

Outlawmws said:
It's wrinkle paint. Kennedy uses it on all their brown boxes.

That's the stuff we use for face paint... :evil:

(Men don't have wrinkles---we have "character lines"!!!)

rayh · Dec 25, 2014

Maybe missed it but couldn't find Qt. cans of Hammered Verde Green on Rust-Oleum site. Does anyone have a P/N that it can be ordered? My thinking was to add some hardner to the Qt to make it more durable.

oldldh · Dec 25, 2014

This is listed on Ebay under "Large Big Heavy Vise Tool Craftsman Wilton Reed?Can't Ship Over 150"

It ends at 8:57 P.M....TODAY!!!

The present bid is $ 22.50!!!

It's in Sandoval, Illinois...

"Y---???" Yost maybe, although it doesn't look Yosty...

I keep finding these "Double Swivlin' B@#tards"!!!

mantemec · Dec 25, 2014

oldldh said:
This is listed on Ebay under "Large Big Heavy Vise Tool Craftsman Wilton Reed?Can't Ship Over 150"

It ends at 8:57 P.M....TODAY!!!

The present bid is $ 22.50!!!

It's in Sandoval, Illinois...

"Y---???" Yost maybe, although it doesn't look Yosty...

I keep finding these "Double Swivlin' B@#tards"!!!

So did anybody figure out the brand?

Saiga · Dec 25, 2014

holland?

drivesitfar · Dec 25, 2014

Saiga: yes it's a Holland's vise and has been through a serious war. Maybe it was on the back of a tank in WWII? it has 5 inch jaws and should have swivel base according to the model #25.

Mant: i'm about 99% that that blue vise on Ebay that looks like it is going to get some late bidding is a Prentiss made vise. if the winner doesn't get or buy the stand can you please take a few pictures of the stand?

Saiga · Dec 25, 2014

http://scuttle.dayid.org/wiki/images/7/72/Yost44.jpg

shiftdrift · Dec 25, 2014

I also think it is prentiss after lots of searching

Askme42 · Dec 25, 2014

shiftdrift said:
I also think it is prentiss after lots of searching

Ill third that. The rear swivel jaw gives it away.

You late bidders stay away. I don't need someone stealing my vise. :lol_hitti

shiftdrift · Dec 25, 2014

I'm already planning my trip this weekend

jakemac · Dec 25, 2014

drivesitfar said:
Jake: i'm pretty sure the 5197 you posted is the one Joe was mentioning that he has a bead on and reserved. i own a fair amount of 6 inch vises and i'd probably sell any of them before i sell my 5197. it's a great looking vise spiffed up like the ones Big Caddy has shown us a few of his.

Drives - I'll only say that ............ I can neither confirm, nor deny any unsubstantiated rumors. :ninja:

joe.striper · Dec 25, 2014

jakemac said:
Drives - I'll only say that ............ I can neither confirm, nor deny any unsubstantiated rumors.

He said he'd hold it 2 days for me. I guess not. Its fair game if anyone wants it.

McBrownie · Dec 25, 2014

45 minutes to go and the 7-inch double swiveler is getting interesting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371218130779?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Wow! $480 in the final seconds. Congratulations to the winner.

shiftdrift · Dec 25, 2014

****

rmalkow2 · Dec 25, 2014

Won by a late bidder who only bid once out of 39. Interesting. I hope that's a great vise. Way out of my league. Congrats to the winner.

oldldh · Dec 25, 2014

Holy Sheep Dip!!!

Over five bills, by the time you get it home...

Someone really wanted the "Doubl' Swivlin' B@#tard"...

Really, really wanted, do you hear???

va.grouseman · Dec 26, 2014

George Costanza would say, ("Now there's a show.---That's a show.")---Really enjoyed that fellows.---Was a real Christmas special.---Congrats to the winner.---Curious to know how far the shot was made.---Quigley couldn't hold these E-bay boys a candle.---Stay tuned, there's actually two more Christmas specials scheduled.---There's also a nice little York 125 coming up for bid along with the Prentiss.

And may all your Christmas's SWIVEL.

ritzblitz · Dec 26, 2014

Aright so it's quite obvious that the vise market is going up, at least I think so.

Any predictions on if it will continue to climb, how much, how long, and when it will start going back down again?

oldldh · Dec 26, 2014

ritzblitz said:
Aright so it's quite obvious that the vise market is going up, at least I think so.

Any predictions on if it will continue to climb, how much, how long, and when it will start going back down again?

Wait, let me get my tea leaves... :evil:

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