The VISES of Garage Journal
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Outlawmws
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Parker jaws are not exactly easily replaced, so I can see the tops have a lot of abuse, but how are the faces? Decide that after wire wheeling them clean (being loaded up can look a lot like damage...)
If the faces are decent, just take the worst of the hacking off the top with a flap disk and call it good. (it really doesn't look all that deep)
If the faces are decent, just take the worst of the hacking off the top with a flap disk and call it good. (it really doesn't look all that deep)
xxaler
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There is zero checkering left on either jaw. Both are basically flat. Looks like 2-pins per jaw holding them in, just use a punch and pop them out.
drivesitfar
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**: Parker jaws have to be custom made too so not cheap, but yours don't look that bad. i'd buy a pair of Wilton copper jaws for $35 off Ebay and call use them if you need a bit more grip. pins may or may not as you say pop out and I've seen grown men cry on here because they didn't just pop out.
Topop: good story and glad to have you join our group. family photos are hard to get the troops lined up for so whenever yours are ready we'll be here for them.
Gany: i sort of understand about the old Athol ratchet handle, but would love to see a youtube video of somebody using one.
Topop: good story and glad to have you join our group. family photos are hard to get the troops lined up for so whenever yours are ready we'll be here for them.
Gany: i sort of understand about the old Athol ratchet handle, but would love to see a youtube video of somebody using one.
xxaler
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Outlawmws
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Getting them off is no big deal, FITTING them is a whole new ball game, and as Drives said, they are not cheap.
Most Parkers have VERY light teeth to begin with. Which if you want to minimize marks on the parts gripped in it, is a good thing. some have completely smooth jaws on purpose. The heavily cut teeth often leave permanent damage to whatever is put in them.
I prefer the light tooth Parker's came with, and I want one vise to have completely smooth well fitting jaws...
torqueman2002
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KMScott
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I got the fitting down. making the smooth set would be a bunch easier for me. If I was building a set for my vise I would make them smooth to. It is amazing what you can hold tight with smooth face jaws, all machine shop vises on Toolmakers benches have smooth jaws. I make 20 serrated sets to one smooth set for customers. Seems everyone is set on serrated jaws.
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va.grouseman
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Outlaw,---I've never done the Electrolysis bath yet, but when I do I've already got two big plastic tubs ready.---But was curious about what would happen if you did use a nonmagnetic stainless steel vat.---What chemical reaction will take place or not take place?
JeremyBurke
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If you don't want it for yourself. Sell it to me. I am looking for one. Just so you have options.
dimwittedmoose51
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Sir Grouseman, I read somewhere that stainless shouldn't be used due to chemical reactions with the components of the stainless ....giving off nasty gases or something. Plastic pickle buckets seem to be the way to go.
I too, have yet to experiement with the one I made a couple years ago.....
DM&FS
I too, have yet to experiement with the one I made a couple years ago.....
DM&FS
oldldh
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Real estate is location--location--location!!!
Old vises are condition--condition--condition!!!
Left to right---
5196 sold on Ebay for over $300.00 including freight...original paint...pristine...I dropped out at $ 150.00/+frt over $ 200.00...
5197 (Balane's) did very well at auction, but I'm old, and I don't remember how much it sold for...too expensive for this old retiree...
5198 (Big Caddy's unicorn, that I found for him---was too expensive for me, at the time, and too far away---California...so I made sure it had a good home...)...
The last photo is Big Caddy's 51XX Craftsman Vise Collection...
If it's pristine and located close by---I'd go $ 150.00/5196, $ 200.00/5197, and more than $ 200.00 for a 5198, if I ever find another one...
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oldldh
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Here's a catalog ad from 1957, I believe...
Courtesy of Outlaw...
He is the resident guru of things Craftsman...
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oakundeisen
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You will produce hexavalent chromium.
Outlawmws
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This ^^^ and I keep ALL other metals (Including copper, brass, stainless, etc.) out of the soup because it WILL get into the soup (Possibly contaminate the part you are trying to de-rust) and most other metals are classed as "heavy metals," and the EPA frowns on dumping heavy metals anywhere. My former employer had heavy metal contamination on site, from a plating lab, and guess what? they are responsible for that property, including monitoring it, in perpetuity... Even AFTER they sold that division off...
Keep it to plain iron and mild or cast steels and you are good... You can dump the residue in your garden safely. its just iron oxide. Iron loving plants love it... (but if you are also removing lead paints, and most old paint is lead base, I let it settle, and pour off the water and then let the remainder mostly dry out, then scrape the sludgy mess into a plastic bag, and dispose of that...)
That is the extent of any toxic material, and compared to paint removers and other less benign paint and rust removers, this is pretty darn safe stuff, if you just take a little care...
CwazyWabbit
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Put some weld on the threads of the bolts, it'll be easy enough for you to grind them off if you need to remove it but will stop it getting stolen unless they want to make a lot of noise. Look at security measures that 4x4 owners take to stop winches being stolen, all of those would work for you.
To ship a 70 lb vise across the country would cost quite a bit, no?
JeremyBurke
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You can always take the static and dynamic apart and put it in separate flat rate boxes. However, I was mostly kidding. I didn't know where you were either since the mobile app on tapatalk won't show it for some reason.
No this one is yours I just have to be patient for one to Pop up near me.
va.grouseman
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Dimwitted,---Oak,---and Outlaw,---Thanks for the response.---I wouldn't have given using a stainless steel vat a second thought.---I thought true stainless was good to go for any acids, salts, chlorides, any caustic chemical, or any chemical reactions therewith.---Would have never thought electricity would pull elements from the stainless.---Thanks fellows.---Just got another wrinkle on the brain.
893cv
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Picture from there web Site, and mine? The only thing I can see different are as you mentioned the swivel clamps, and the jaw handle has threaded knobs. Sadly I can't find any other pictures of these. There was a post here I found but can't find it again.
Edco tools in Columbus and Lima is selling new Bison vises. They are now made in Brazil. I have 2 FPU and one Bison 1275 vise and they are very nice quality.
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GETRIDAONE
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oldldh, I missed a 5196 today. He was about to meet with the buyer as we spoke. Sold for $80
For lack of nothing else to do (waiting on supper) here is a picture of the American Scale I am working on. This one is truly naked, fresh out of the media blaster.
Hope everyone up North is OK in the storm going on.
For lack of nothing else to do (waiting on supper) here is a picture of the American Scale I am working on. This one is truly naked, fresh out of the media blaster.
Hope everyone up North is OK in the storm going on.
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Hey! That was me!? Sorry buddy...
jwsia
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Nice score for 80$
JeremyBurke
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oldldh
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Organ---
A 5197 for $ 80.00---
HMMM---
May I be the first to say---
YOU ****!!!
And...
That one appears to be in real solid shape...
Now to the restoration...
A 5197 for $ 80.00---
HMMM---
May I be the first to say---
YOU ****!!!
And...
That one appears to be in real solid shape...
Now to the restoration...
fullthrottle24
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GETRIDAONE
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I told my wife I haven't checked CL today and was just looking and saw the Craftsman. I was guessing a 5196 by the weight he put in the ad.
Nice find,
va.grouseman
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KMS.---Just looking at your parker jaws on post 24341, and was wondering how you remove the excess metal down to grade?
GET.---Is that A. S. swivel jaw a #78, or #79?---It's kind of fuzzy but looks like a #79.
GET.---Is that A. S. swivel jaw a #78, or #79?---It's kind of fuzzy but looks like a #79.
joseph.a.owens.9
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On the other end of the vice here is my tiny bit free vice I got today. My only vice. Lol
Smokeshow69
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Any of these vises are super nice! I almost made them my computer wall paper and removed my family picture to put up a picture of the nice 5197
Any one else think of this?? 
Super nice collection of vices! Maybe one day I will get one of these to restoreOutlawmws
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Joseph, I'll have to say, that little clamp-on is unique in my experience. I've seen many versions of the double dowel small clamp-on, but never with an anvil support for the dowels.
GETRIDAONE
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va -Is that A. S. swivel jaw a #78, or #79?---It's kind of fuzzy but looks like a #79.
It is a #79 6" jaws
toppop, Check vise, vice, vises, vices, bench grip, bench clamp,
work bench, will sometimes have a vise and not mention it in the ad.
It is a #79 6" jaws
toppop, Check vise, vice, vises, vices, bench grip, bench clamp,
work bench, will sometimes have a vise and not mention it in the ad.
joseph.a.owens.9
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Good to know I may have something interesting to look at.
Outlawmws
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WILL YOU TWO DELETE THOSE POSTS? 
Correction: THREE!
Correction: THREE!Outlawmws
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ok I just ran them all and found a crappy work bench attached to a big ol craftsman. The owner wants 200 firm for the bench. What's wrong with people?
Yeah, whats wrong with (you) people?
