The VISES of Garage Journal

[drivesitfar]

T4: not all people have CL good manners. some of the guys like to run it like an online auction and put $1 in their price. of all the buying and selling I've done on CL I've probably only met a couple guys i wouldn't do any business again with. i have received emails from many i would never deal with so you need to figure out who you want to deal with.

as far as your vise the no name thing doesn't bother me because a lot of old vises didn't have any names on them. it is old which is a good thing if there isn't any welds or cracks, but it's not very big. that upper swivel pin and bolt tightens what? it doesn't look like the slide swivels so not sure what it is doing up there. it's an unusual vise that I haven't seen before and I've read this thread a couple times over the years. maybe VA can find it's match.

 

[oakundeisen]

People like that are hard to deal with he could of at least made a counter offer. PFF people now days....

I don't even waste my time with those idiots. If you are selling something then state your price - pretty simple really.

 

[joseph.a.owens.9]

I don't even waste my time with those idiots. If you are selling something then state your price - pretty simple really.

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[454ragtop]

Pretty sure I see a vertical seam behind the static jaw in front of that clamp. I suspect you can roll that vice not unlike those POS imports that are constantly showing up. Pretty neat, I'd like to find one.
Jim

 

[econotrk]

I don't even waste my time with those idiots. If you are selling something then state your price - pretty simple really.

I agree completely, I've bought a lot of stuff off Clist and don't even bother calling the guys with no price. My opinion is they're just fishing and don't have a clue what their item is worth.

 

[Fretters]

that upper swivel pin and bolt tightens what? it doesn't look like the slide swivels so not sure what it is doing up there. it's an unusual vise that I haven't seen before and I've read this thread a couple times over the years. maybe VA can find it's match.

That has all the hallmarks of being a rotating head vice.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

I saw this on CL. He says its a Parker No429 He's one of these guys that wants an offer but wont tell you what he's looking to get for it. I made an offer which he just replied NO. What can anyone tell me about this vise. Thanks in advance.

429 is 3 or 3.5" inch.....smaller version of the 474. I'd go 100 to 150 if I wanted it.....they're not exactly "common"

 

[Fretters]

I know it isn't worth a thing but its all I got and I had fun with it!! [emoji1]

Pieces like that are the perfect thing to start with. If something goes **** up, it's not gutting like it is with an old, unusual or rare piece. You've made a tidy job of that.

 

[Zebedeewesty]

My little POS vise finally in its permanent home after spending the past decade and a half sat on the shed floor.

 

[TreePointer]

My little POS vise finally in its permanent home after spending the past decade and a half sat on the shed floor.
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As far as POS vises go, I like it! Looks like it has some bulk, fairly wide jaws, and some cool lettering on the side. If not abused, it could get the job done for decades--not much more one can ask of a tool.

 

[Outlawmws]

Pretty sure I see a vertical seam behind the static jaw in front of that clamp. I suspect you can roll that vice not unlike those POS imports that are constantly showing up. Pretty neat, I'd like to find one.
Jim

Yep, rotating head vise... Parkers generally for for numbers similar to the model No. on Eprey...

 

[Kevin54]

I just picked these up about 30 minutes ago. Took them over to the local place for a sandblasting. The small one is a Ridge Tool 350-R and larger one is a Desmond Stephens 500 Simplex. Now all I have to do is get them cleaned, primed, and painted.

I posted a paper on here a number of pages and months ago that Desmond Stephens sold out the vise line to Ridge Tool quite a few years back. So that gives me three Desmonds in actuality. Once the weather clears up where I can get some room to paint in the garage I'll be good.

The larger Simplex has to be 45+ years old because I remember my mom buying it for my dad when I was real little. She bought it for him for his birthday. It's been beat on a lot, but the jaws are still as good as new.

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Anyone here buy a Reed 205 off of the Altanta area Craigslist last night?

I must have missed it I didn't even see a Reed yesterday. I have CL alerts set for vise / vice.
I probably wouldn't have bought because I already have a 205 that is my main work vise right now.

 

[merbie]

Anybody have any experience with the tekton 8inch vice?


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[oldldh]

Anybody have any experience with the tekton 8inch vice?

 

[merbie]

here it is great value, but is it any good?


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[thursday]

Identification help.

 

[oldldh]

Merbie---I am married to a British Rose, so I have to tell you the truth...

That vise looks very Chinese to me...

Hence breakable...

And...

As a loyal flyer of the Union Jack, you should be using a restored Record or a Paramo...

Both are very stout...

 

[drivesitfar]

Merbie: Tekton has a great warranty program over here so check to see if the same on your side of the pond. a lot of vises break from mis use, but i bet if you don't use that one as an anvil or a press and don't put a pipe on the handle for leverage it will probably last for years. it seems to be one of the better imports.

Thursday: sorry i can't help you with that little guy

 

[zkling]

Identification help.

Looks like one of the stanley series. Check the top, back half of the slide for a marking.

 

[jakemac]

Identification help.

It looks similar to my Stanley #741. The stamp may be on the back of the slide.

 

[merbie]

Well I'll guess I'll stick with my record then cheers though fellas!


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[balane]

Here's a really neat little Prentiss. It has 2" jaws and is virtually the exact same physical size as a baby Wilton. I had to make a pin for the pivot jaw. I'm no machinist and have no tools to fabricate one properly. This was my first attempt, I may take another stab at it. Everything else is original and pretty darn nice really.

I have a question as my Prentiss knowledge is limited. Each of the three body parts has 106 stamped into it. Does that indicate this vise was manufactured in January of 1906?

Like the baby Wilton, this vise is just like a larger vise in every regard; just in a smaller scale. The quality is excellent and it works very smoothly and clamps tightly. Impressive little piece, I like it.

Here's some before and during photos. The vise is completed, painted in Oil Rubbed Bronze and looks nice imho. I ran out of light for completed pictures but I'll put some up tomorrow. You can see the Prentiss maker's mark in the last photo, not much to it however.

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[balane]

I was able to take a few after photos but I want better ones.

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[jrobb316]

That's awesome and has to be ultra rare. As a Prentiss lover I'm jealous

 

[jakemac]

Nicely done.

I'd be inclined to believe that the 106 stamp on all the parts was an indexing mark to keep fitted parts together.

 

[balane]

Thanks guys. Does anybody know the year range these were manufactured? Even roughly would be great.

 

[454ragtop]

Can't help with the year, cool vise though. Interesting that it has the raised anvil like the early baby bullets.
Jim

 

[balane]

That little anvil is a neat feature. I correspond with an older dude who has purchased some of my vises in the past. He seems to know a lot and I sent him a photo of this one when I first got it. He couldn't help me with the date of manufacture but he told me that little anvil was a serviceable part, it is a threaded insert, and when the vise was new it came with a spare anvil for when the original was too deformed to be of any use. I wish I had the spare one with it but then I might as well wish for the original packaging too, since I'm dreaming large.

 

[454ragtop]

Forgot to add, nice job on the pin. How did you make it? Chuck up a piece of rod in a drill and spin it against a grinder?
Jim

 

[drivesitfar]

Balane: 106 are probably Prentiss parts #'s like Jake mentioned. hard to say about the baby Prentiss vises, but definitely pre WWII and probably 20's or 30's. nice job on the vise and on the pin. was the pin a bolt before you put it on your block grinder's stone?

 

[bl00]

I can't find any listing for a 2" jaw, but there was a 2 5/8 listed for years. In 1913 Prentiss ads showed a style change where they added the little bump where the slide comes out of the front of that main part of the vise. By 1917 this bump was shown on all versions. I'd fee safe saying yours was pre 1917 unless for some reason they kept the old style for the tiny jewelers vises.

 

[balane]

Thank you for both the compliments and information.

The pin was just some 1/4" steel rod stock I had leftover from a previous project. I put the pin in my drill chuck and ran it on my 1" belt sander until it fit decently. Then I mounted the drill handle in my vise and locked it to spin. I used a file to make the hourglass shape and then did some more smoothing on the belt sander. Finally I ran it over with a wire wheel for its final appearance. It works very well and is easy to insert/remove but I would like to make a nicer one mostly so it looks a little more professional. The one I have isn't bad but it isn't great either.

 

[bl00]

Found it in an 1890 catalog. Look at the bottom right corner of this ad. It shows the sizes and prices for both the flat and swivel bases. Yours is the larger version.

I will humbly accept the vise as the winner of the contest.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Hello vise friends,

For your review is a Cole No. 11 utility vise. It looks like a blacksmith vise. However, it's cast iron instead of drop forged.

What's cool about it is that it has 360 degree vertical rotation, a single base mount so it could have some horizontal rotation if it is mounted correctly and a detachable post in the bottom of the stationary jaw for extra stability. I bought it from a used equipment dealer. It had little use and looked almost like NOS. Just surface rust.

After researching it, I wish it had the drill attachment. Does anyone know how old it is?

Here are some before & after pictures:

 

[econotrk]

Very nice little Prentiss Balane, interesting feature having a replaceable anvil. Nothing was throwaway, made to last a lifetime.

 

[balane]

Wow, great find bl00!! That's good to know. It's incredible, being that old, that it's held up as well as it has.

 

[KMScott]

Wow balane Really nice find and of course nice restore. Some collectors will want that one and most of us here. Did you find it locally? Bl00 nice find to on the ad.

 

[Toolhorder]

Well my co-worker broke the jaw on this one. Damn shame. The guy didn't even care.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

I was able to take a few after photos but I want better ones.

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That's awesome and has to be ultra rare. As a Prentiss lover I'm jealous

Those oversized rules and Dr Pepper cans really mislead people!