Outlawmws
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I'd guess its only 1/2 there; that could be for clamping into a 2X4, and another piece would have a screw and pad for a large "bar clamp".
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I'd guess its only 1/2 there; that could be for clamping into a 2X4, and another piece would have a screw and pad for a large "bar clamp".
Don't know what it is, but it sure doesn't look like $40 plus $14 shipping....
Fretters
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CW: Fortis question. The quick release mechanism on these things. Do yours use the same setup in that the end of the spring merely just sits against the lip of the leadscrew collar/plate? Is there one full turn of tension on the spring? This one of mine is killing me, trying to reassemble that ****** thing. 
I'm thinking of drilling the front plate and adding a bolt or pin there to hold the end of the spring, so that I can put less tension, (approx. 1/3 turn), on it. A full turn seems somewhat excessive, according to my fingers when I'm trying to get it all back together. The damn thing slipped during one attempt and smacked the end of my finger too. Some cursing ensued there.
I'm thinking of drilling the front plate and adding a bolt or pin there to hold the end of the spring, so that I can put less tension, (approx. 1/3 turn), on it. A full turn seems somewhat excessive, according to my fingers when I'm trying to get it all back together. The damn thing slipped during one attempt and smacked the end of my finger too. Some cursing ensued there. Mark in Indiana
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They're very handy to have. I may suggest to bolt it on to a 4" x 6" piece of angle stock. Then you can clamp it in your regular vise to use for round stock jobs.
Also, looks great!
Outlawmws
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They're very handy to have. I may suggest to bolt it on to a 4" x 6" piece of angle stock. Then you can clamp it in your regular vise to use for round stock jobs.
Also, looks great!
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CwazyWabbit
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CW: Fortis question. The quick release mechanism on these things. Do yours use the same setup in that the end of the spring merely just sits against the lip of the leadscrew collar/plate? Is there one full turn of tension on the spring? This one of mine is killing me, trying to reassemble that ****** thing.
I'll have a look a bit later, I seem to have accidentally deleted all my saved catalogue pages whilst organising them .... so I'm in the middle of a bit of data recovery at the moment .... oops ...
I still have 10 real catalogues (and two in the post) so it's not the end of the world if I can't get them back.
Fretters
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Ooh, that's nasty. Hope you manage to recover them.
CwazyWabbit
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Got a recovery tool running now so just a waiting game. I'll dig out that Fortis now.
topop101
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They're very handy to have. I may suggest to bolt it on to a 4" x 6" piece of angle stock. Then you can clamp it in your regular vise to use for round stock jobs.
Also, looks great!
Not a bad idea. I have a couple of reed 71's . I will set one up like that for sure , thanks.
CwazyWabbit
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Fretters: Looking at it you should be able to increase tension in half turn increments by moving the other end of the spring instead of the logical end.
Photo isn't too clear but you can see the end of the spring to the left of the main screw near the handle
Interesting to see this part is made of brass/bronze
Couple of general photos, I forgot how heavy this one felt till I got it off the shelf ..... looks like it could do with a trip in the e-tank.
Photo isn't too clear but you can see the end of the spring to the left of the main screw near the handle
Interesting to see this part is made of brass/bronze
Couple of general photos, I forgot how heavy this one felt till I got it off the shelf ..... looks like it could do with a trip in the e-tank.
Jan-Sietze
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Yes: My Paramo no6: 7/54First post, here goes!
It states "5/69" suggesting it was made in 1969. Have other Paramo owners found this stamp here?
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4383907&postcount=22067
dutchgray
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The British military always seemed to stamp the date into their vices somewhere along with a crows foot / broadarrow symbol and another number which I assume is a serial no. I have two Wodens stamped like this on the slide.
Fretters
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Cheers CW.
Very similar setup to mine. Did originally consider the other end of the spring, but that passes right through the shaft, and the flat bar is punch riveted in rather than screwed, so it's not a simple task to fiddle with things at that end.It's a shame they didn't go with a similar setup to Parkinson/Record. Would have been so much easier to set back up if they had. I think I may have a play with this one and see if I can come up with something with a bit more finesse. I'd love to know how they managed to tension them at factory though, as I'll be damned if I can figure out a way of doing it which won't rip the paint up, or require fingers like Garth.
This is the stage I'm upto so far with this one, btw. The new paint is slightly darker than it seems in the photo. Condition when it arrived:
Current condition:
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Fretters
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This Fortis, (1953), and the second Swindens, (1944), both have the crows foot on them. Seems they used a different method before WWII though, as the first Swindens, (1936), has the crown and AM, (Air Ministry), punched in instead of the crows foot. As far as I can tell, they didn't punch any marks in around the period of WWI.
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CwazyWabbit
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Anyone got an advert/catalogue page for a Parker 473 1/2 vice?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
dutchgray
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Mine are both 1950's I haven't got anything military older than that. I suspect the usual rules went out the window to a certain extent during the wars, on our side at least.
dutchgray
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Also now I want a Fortis.
Outlawmws
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That one has been tapped on a time or two..
Under the gray, dark gray, red, and japanning it will say Prentiss 20 in graffiti letters. Scored it for $10. 
Slide has a little crack, i've seen worse, and the pin is seized in the jaw. I have not tried to get it out yet, it just doesn't lift out. Handle is gone but that can be made. Now I have 3 of these #20s (4.5")
Slide has a little crack, i've seen worse, and the pin is seized in the jaw. I have not tried to get it out yet, it just doesn't lift out. Handle is gone but that can be made. Now I have 3 of these #20s (4.5")Attachments
OK...my first vise "clean up" since I can't do much forging for a long while....a Simplex Utility #30. Pretty much all I did was take it apart, bucket scrub it in Simple Green, hand sanded a few places and did the tape off... then spray painted it with primer and paint (Dupli-Color Bright Aqua Metallic DSGM440). It was a fun project.
Mark in Indiana
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^^^^ Looks great. The bare metal details and blue compliment each other well.
topop101
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OK...my first vise "clean up" since I can't do much forging for a long while....a Simplex Utility #30. Pretty much all I did was take it apart, bucket scrub it in Simple Green, hand sanded a few places and did the tape off... then spray painted it with primer and paint (Dupli-Color Bright Aqua Metallic DSGM440). It was a fun project.
Love the color. Perfect fit for that lil'machine
bagged89s10
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OK...my first vise "clean up" since I can't do much forging for a long while....a Simplex Utility #30. Pretty much all I did was take it apart, bucket scrub it in Simple Green, hand sanded a few places and did the tape off... then spray painted it with primer and paint (Dupli-Color Bright Aqua Metallic DSGM440). It was a fun project.
As Larry David says "pretty, pretty, pretty....
Pretty Good!"
Looks awesome!
~Veeps
Blue Frog
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For those looking for Craftsman vises, there's a 5191 listed on Dayton, OH C/L. Appears to be in pretty good shape.
Blue
Blue
FMC1959
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Anyone got an advert/catalogue page for a Parker 473 1/2 vice?
Thanks in advance
CW, I did some looking and the only model in the 47X range I can find is the attached 474. There may be a 473 1/2 but I can't find anything
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KMScott
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FMC1959
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This is kind of funny, how a Parker 974 1/2 became a Parker 87. On the 4th pic, mouse hover over to magnify! Like the ad says, it is a "Parker #87 4 1/2 Bench Vise"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-Cha...148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a4802b9c
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-Cha...148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a4802b9c
bigcaddy
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Under the gray, dark gray, red, and japanning it will say Prentiss 20 in graffiti letters. Scored it for $10.
Have you made yourself a threaded jack so you can pop that pin loose? I struggled with a Prentiss one time and swore I would never do it again unless I had a tool for the job.
It was bad enough that I debated cutting a groove in the pin and installing an o-ring just so my kids will not have to swear as much as I did getting it out
If you want one, I can mail you the most important part of making one. The rest is just 3/8" bolts sized to fit
McBrownie
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June, nice job and a dead ringer for this '70's album cover. Boy, that takes me back a ways.
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topop101
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This is kind of funny, how a Parker 974 1/2 became a Parker 87. On the 4th pic, mouse hover over to magnify! Like the ad says, it is a "Parker #87 4 1/2 Bench Vise"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-Cha...148?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a4802b9c
Right... And I know this seller... it par for the course
Have you made yourself a threaded jack so you can pop that pin loose? I struggled with a Prentiss one time and swore I would never do it again unless I had a tool for the job.
It was bad enough that I debated cutting a groove in the pin and installing an o-ring just so my kids will not have to swear as much as I did getting it out
If you want one, I can mail you the most important part of making one. The rest is just 3/8" bolts sized to fit
I will try the basics first and let you know. I didn't try at all yet. I thought I remembered a post on it though. I've been lucky, my other 2 just lifted right out.
KMScott
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Thanks Junebuggy, I've seen your work too, been working metal since 73 myself, the knifes you posted a week ago was out of this world. This vise had the same angles on the static and Dynamic supports, not like the others.
I love that! Actually.....I had some left over paint from getting my old 95 F250 restored after I had to almost go to the cardiac unit when a local dealer told me the price of a new one.
bagged89s10
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Nice that catalog page has my 22x as well. Any idea what year that catalog is from?
oldldh
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I love that! Actually.....I had some left over paint from getting my old 95 F250 restored after I had to almost go to the cardiac unit when a local dealer told me the price of a new one.
JB---I've got a 1993 K1500 Chevy pickup (bought it new in Oct '93) that's getting ready to happen to...
For exactly the same reason...
Fifty Grand for a new pickup is---
INSANE!!!
I like your Ford...
bagged89s10
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Nice work on those jaws so far and can't wait to see it done!
I love that! Actually.....I had some left over paint from getting my old 95 F250 restored after I had to almost go to the cardiac unit when a local dealer told me the price of a new one.
Beautiful truck.
RADcustom
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Good evening gents.
I stumbled onto something at the scrap yard the other day that I thought was worth posting about.
I'm in the process of cleaning it up and doing a little repair. I have to say it made my day.
I stumbled onto something at the scrap yard the other day that I thought was worth posting about.
I'm in the process of cleaning it up and doing a little repair. I have to say it made my day.