A E Numan
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https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/tls/5044436328.html
I found this on CL this morning.
I found this on CL this morning.
The VISES of Garage Journal
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Dusten
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Vice guys... Curious, does this look worth saving, or is it a cheapo vice I should chuck?
drivesitfar
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Dusten: it's hard to tell if the jaws are ok on that vise, but with copper jaw covers that are sitting on top i'm guessing they are ok. as long as it isn't cracked or welded that is a vise i see on a lot of benches of some very handy guys. there are many of those vises on this vise thread that are shined up if you have time to take a look. yes its worth keeping and some of the guys here clean those up and sell them for $150 range daily. that Chinese Allied you posted the other day is also a good light duty or maybe a good welding vise, but don't tighten it up too tight or it might break.
as you read a lot about some of the old vises on this thread you'll probably replace one or both of those vises later as you find nicer replacements. keep those copper jaws because those are great to use on any vise if you need a little extra grip without marring up your project.
EX: you are right because Wilton's wood vises with their quick release feature are awesome to use so why wouldn't they figure out a way to put that in a vise. just hadn't seen one.
as you read a lot about some of the old vises on this thread you'll probably replace one or both of those vises later as you find nicer replacements. keep those copper jaws because those are great to use on any vise if you need a little extra grip without marring up your project.
EX: you are right because Wilton's wood vises with their quick release feature are awesome to use so why wouldn't they figure out a way to put that in a vise. just hadn't seen one.
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Vice guys... Curious, does this look worth saving, or is it a cheapo vice I should chuck?
I have one of those Wiltons and they aren't bad at all. If not USA marked, flip it over you will should see "Taiwan" in the bottom of the base. Much better fit & finish than Chinese-made Wiltons.
Dusten
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Next time I get to mom's I'll look for markings
joe.striper
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Oooh thats nice. I have its brother, a 626.
bl00
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Looks like it was welded or brazed on the side.
A E Numan
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That's what I thought, but why would anyone weld it there unless the whole static jaw was busted off.
Thanks for the confirmation gentleman. It is much bigger than I was originally hoping to find. I just need to figure out what to do with this base where it was welded to the table. There was an inch of dirt and grease funk under the swivel base because it was welded proud of the table. My workbench has a 5.5" thick top but is only 2ft by a little over 4 ft (glue lam beam cutoff from the neighbor's new garage) with 4x4 wood posts for the base and braces. Do you think this is sufficient or should I build a stand?
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CwazyWabbit
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That is big time welded, the weld runs from at the base behind the bolt.
It also looks like the slide has been brazed to, what on earth happened to that?
I have been reading the restoration threads and am getting ready to add a little color to my garage work area and get this vise in great shape so I can use it for life. Yall do some great work on neglected and forgotten about vises and I am proud to have a piece of history that will one day be passed down.
drivesitfar
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JoeA: even if you save the swivel base for your C3 that is probably the weakest link in that great vise and one reason i would build a stand for it without the swivel. that way you would have full 360 degree access and you won't risk the swivel base breaking and maybe sending your huge Wilton C3 to the ground. there are lots of ideas for a vise stand on this thread.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stand
whether you buy or own another vise or not we are happy to have you as a member here and ask questions if you need help with that big Wilton or anything else in your shop.
AE & CW: i saw that vise yesterday and even though he's asking $500 for it i still looked and saw either a huge weld or maybe a bucket of paint spilled on that big Athol. i'd buy the stand if the vise was welded because it looks pretty solid
Dusten: in case you do get a better vise if that was your Dad's i probably would clean it up and find a nice bench to keep it on and use it. also those removable copper jaws should fit other vises if you pick up an old vise someday.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stand
whether you buy or own another vise or not we are happy to have you as a member here and ask questions if you need help with that big Wilton or anything else in your shop.
AE & CW: i saw that vise yesterday and even though he's asking $500 for it i still looked and saw either a huge weld or maybe a bucket of paint spilled on that big Athol. i'd buy the stand if the vise was welded because it looks pretty solid
Dusten: in case you do get a better vise if that was your Dad's i probably would clean it up and find a nice bench to keep it on and use it. also those removable copper jaws should fit other vises if you pick up an old vise someday.
bagged89s10
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This one is for Drives.
How's this pic?
How's this pic?
drivesitfar
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Bagged: good stuff and if you are not keeping the Reed then take a few more shots from all angles and throw it on the Bay and let us know how you do. nice work on that Reed 104 too.
bagged89s10
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joe.striper
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That is big time welded, the weld runs from at the base behind the bolt.
It also looks like the slide has been brazed to, what on earth happened to that?
Boys, as I previously mentioned I am an owner of a similar period Athol 626 and let me tell you that there is probably NOTHING wrong with that vise.
In the early production Athols (re: Pre-1890) the castings were HORRIBLE. On my 626 I talked the sellers down because they were so bad. There is a lot of 'flashing' on the surface. I though it was old paint, and then weld splatter or repairs, nope, just crappy casting! Look at the base of the static jaw in my pic, looks just like a repair right? Buy it isn't. I don't think it is possible to snap the jaws on one of these, I just don't. I would buy that vise based on a high res photograph in a heart beat, but not at $500.
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CwazyWabbit
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I'll bow to your superior knowledge of them Joe but boy it really does look like weld, especially the section running from behind the bolt.
trijeff
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, what a good mid-week laugh, I totally needed that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Machinists-Vise-Swivel-8-In-Jaw-DI-/391156135307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b12b8f58b
Wow, what a good mid-week laugh, I totally needed that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Machinists-Vise-Swivel-8-In-Jaw-DI-/391156135307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b12b8f58b
oldldh
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I always wanted one of those!!!
topop101
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drivesitfar
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Top & Ted: can you both edit out the gal's phone number off your post? Glad somebody has that craftsman
zoomieport
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va.grouseman
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, what a good mid-week laugh, I totally needed that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Machinists-Vise-Swivel-8-In-Jaw-DI-/391156135307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b12b8f58b
Price drastically reduced.---Must sell.
Shiftless
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow, what a good mid-week laugh, I totally needed that
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Machinists-Vise-Swivel-8-In-Jaw-DI-/391156135307?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b12b8f58b
Such a deal!
For that price, Amazon will send you 6 of them with free shipping!
oldldh
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INSP380
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econotrk
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I posted both of these before and today gave them a cleaning and greasing. Applied a coat of BLO and put them out in the sun. Thought they looked good together so I shot a few pics before I put them back on the shelf. The Prentiss is a 3 1/4" and the Columbian 3", I'm happy to have saved the original paint and patina.
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McBrownie
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Quite a few 9300's lately. It's a great vise. Nice job and Go Cavs!
INSP380
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Thanks, had my eye on this one for a while. Turned out to be a freebie ..... She needed cleaning and paint.
Go Cavs!
Steve
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wrenchguy
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not a expert but Chicago is older = brings more $, size and condition is everything though
coolreed
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New addition to the Vise Framily.
drivesitfar
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Cool: yes that is one CoolReed and not a little one either. very nice and a recent find or did you have it hanging around and just found time to spiff it up and mount it? just curious if you put the dynamic into the static with or without the main screw when you put it back together?
JRobb: i agree with Wrench that the Chicago Wiltons are older and probably worth more, but condition is everything.
TOP: did you pick up that Craftsman or maybe you know who did and are letting him post? even though you might not have pictures we were curious which # 519x vise it was. i had my $ on a 5197, but it could have been one of the others.
JRobb: i agree with Wrench that the Chicago Wiltons are older and probably worth more, but condition is everything.
TOP: did you pick up that Craftsman or maybe you know who did and are letting him post? even though you might not have pictures we were curious which # 519x vise it was. i had my $ on a 5197, but it could have been one of the others.
drivesitfar
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Insp: i posted my Wilton 9300 that is a Jan. 1967 earlier this week and your's looks brand new compared to mine. what color is that blue and do you have the brand and paint # handy?
Econ: how many vises are you spiffing up at once. you must have an assembly line going because the Craftsman 5198 was almost done the last time i checked your thread. i do like a couple old vises with BLO on them and thanks for posting pictures of them. i'm guessing you have all the vises you need now or are some of these leaving home soon?
nice work
Econ: how many vises are you spiffing up at once. you must have an assembly line going because the Craftsman 5198 was almost done the last time i checked your thread. i do like a couple old vises with BLO on them and thanks for posting pictures of them. i'm guessing you have all the vises you need now or are some of these leaving home soon?
nice work
drivesitfar
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JRobb: some of the guys that have owned and restored more than i have might have a different opinion, but I've owned a few of both and as far as i know the old Chicago ones are built similar to the newer Schiller park ones.
some of the Chicago ones have the acorn nuts instead of swivel pins which could be changed out and some of the Schiller ones were sold without swivel bases, but as far as quality i'd say they are all great vises.
the baby bullets seem to all have Chicago on them and we've seen them dated into the 80's which we still can't figure out why because Wilton moved to Schiller Park in the 50's.
i'm speaking about the Bullet style Wiltons and not all the other ones that seem to be great to good to poor quality depending on their pricing that Wilton sold them for new.
some of the Chicago ones have the acorn nuts instead of swivel pins which could be changed out and some of the Schiller ones were sold without swivel bases, but as far as quality i'd say they are all great vises.
the baby bullets seem to all have Chicago on them and we've seen them dated into the 80's which we still can't figure out why because Wilton moved to Schiller Park in the 50's.
i'm speaking about the Bullet style Wiltons and not all the other ones that seem to be great to good to poor quality depending on their pricing that Wilton sold them for new.
KMScott
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Very nice vise, located in what part of your house coolred? Great way to show case the 4C. Awesome picture.