The VISES of Garage Journal
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Shiftless
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sz : Let me second the motion...YOU ****!
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Agreed....a knife of any material- if it wasn't built right in regards to what their heating, quenching, and tempering processes consisted of can be worthless . I did make my own Damascus and it took awhile to get it figured out without getting numerous inclusions or delamination of the pieces. I often attended "hammer ins" where Ed Caffrey and a few other good makers were there teaching how to do it. It truly is a long process in making it but, it was always a passion during the really cold months and I was caught up on my other work. I highly recommend having a trip hammer in making it though...it does take a lot of working to make it or you'll end up with Popeye arms. I hear both sides of Damascus and it's "worth" as a knife, I dunno....some swear by it as hunting knives, others like it as mantle pieces. My own personal fixed blade for hunting is made from O1 and it works pretty well but, I have some nice Damascus ones on my fireplace too.
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Craptain
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Can you post the link please, I would like to see the rest of the pictures.
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vintage nut
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If I ever get into it, I'll likely build a forging press. But it's not going to be for a while though. I have only done 3 or 4 forge welds in total, and none were very good. I don't even have a proper forge currently. On my to build list.
And the only reason I suggest that O1 and A2 are likely superior to most Damascus is that I'm buying high grade tool steel made in a controlled environment, and heat treating it exactly as specified in a computer controlled oven. I suspect it would be difficult to make Damascus blades as consistent as you can with tool steel. That said pattern welded blades are still some of my favorites. But like you, my edc is O1. Actually the same design as drives new knife, but with a bone handle and brass bolster
you can never have too many tools
vintage nut
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We should probably stop hijacking this thread with knives lol
you can never have too many tools
you can never have too many tools
Shiftless
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Here is the second of the 2 pics I found. Google said they came from page 22 of this thread but I didn't find them there...I took them from google images
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rmalkow2
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You definitely **** with that deal. Talk about right place at the right time. Had I not been out garage sale shopping I would have been racing to get there before ya.
A working swiveler 400S with original paint for $50.
I went way out of my way a week ago to get a non-swivel bullet heavily used in a shop for $95 and thought I found a really good deal. Maybe I just need to give up.
Shiftless
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You definitely **** with that deal. Talk about right place at the right time. Had I not been out garage sale shopping I would have been racing to get there before ya.
A working swiveler 400S with original paint for $50.
I went way out of my way a week ago to get a non-swivel bullet heavily used in a shop for $95 and thought I found a really good deal. Maybe I just need to give up.
Naah... just realize that to score a you **** deal requires an awful lot of time or spectacular luck. Without actually seeing it, I'd say you got a fair deal. I paid 90 for a 3 inch early bullet without the swivel Model 3HD dated 9-45
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Craptain
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I was actually meaning the ad. But maybe you are considering buying it.
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va.grouseman
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Shiftless,---There is one posted on page 485, post 9686, by Kbeitz.---JoeStriper has one too that really should have been mine.
joe.striper
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Fisher-Norris chain vise. Looks incomplete because i cant tell if it has both sprockets. VERY RARE, VERY EXPENSIVE. Mine has 7" jaws, weighs 150 lbs... if that was near me I'd already be at their house. There is a dedicated fisher norris face book page and there is a museum in NJ..
My understanding is it uses standard farm machinery chain.
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CwazyWabbit
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Joe : The top sprocket is missing on that vise
Shiftless
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Here is the link. It is in New Hampshire, I'm in California, and you're in
Florida hmmm....
I may lack foresight, but I wouldn't pay shipping if it was free, but maybe somebody else would jump on it. I imagine the seller will come down on the price.
http://nh.craigslist.org/tls/5026738723.html
bagged89s10
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Who has a 5" Wilton bullet on a stand? I found a piece of tubing in my garage that is the perfect height for me for a vise on a stand. I just need some thick steel for the base and top. I'm thinking a bigger vise like this 9-500 or my rock island on a stand will be more useful for myself.
Post up some pics of what you have on a stand.
Post up some pics of what you have on a stand.
jakemac
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That bottom sprocket looks toasted.
Craptain
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I really only wanted to see the other pictures but now I am thinking.
Arghhh. I don't need another project. I don't need another project. I need help.
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trijeff
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Tell me about it!!! I have worked with a couple different toolmaker level machinists in my career (HP trained/employed) and Kevin is by far and away the best I have ever seen. I seriously think there isn't anything he couldn't make. Me and the P98 are incredibly lucky to have the opportunity to work with him, the next P98 owner (this guy will definitely outlast me) and anyone who looks at this will definitely
at the master metalwork. Hahaha!!! Nice one. Would not even contemplate that blasphemy
No, the extreme green is reserved for the SO guys that don't worry about how much tools cost, it will never be in my garage. For the P98 it is going to be BLO as you mention, or I have also been thinking about hammered black with gold lettering. Thoughts? Either way no more pictures until it's unveiling which should be in the next handful of weeks. Probably won't have the stand completely done but will follow soon after.btw, spoke with Zoomie about this yesterday but wondering yours (and other vise-heads) thoughts - probably going to be letting go of the C1 and C2 and wondering if I should do those in the extreme green even though Wilton never Snap-On branded the C-series (to my knowledge)? Thinking the SO boys might go bonkers for that but just not sure and looking for input.
OK, back to the monster blacksmith vise restore, it is almost done and I'm nearly 100% resolved that this one is going up on eBay.
Outlawmws
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Bagged, there is a whole thread on vise stands. (sorry I don't have it bookmarked...)
bagged89s10
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drivesitfar
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TJ: if you are not keeping the 98 then might i be the first to suggest bright green and polished steel on a polished steel stand. the guys with the $100,000 tool boxes will love it. or BLO and keep it because it will be a long long long long long long long long long long long time before you find another one. did i mention it might be a long time before you see another 320 pound vise? your 1745 did so well with the bright green i'd try it on the C1 and C2 also if you really want to sell them.
Bagged: there are two vise and grinder stand threads i started last year because the first one in this section lost traction. the one in the fabrication section still gets great stands posted with or without my assistance.
some guys are putting a plate on the cement pole in their garages that are guarding their heaters from getting hit by a car which is a great idea if you might have one in your home. or put one on wheels like some have. or a hitch attachment on each side of the bench so you can have it both directions since it's missing it's swivel.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise
JZ: thanks for the kudos and those old Reed C series vises are some of my favorites. i didn't see the alligator, but i bet i won't want to get my hand stuck in that vise.
Bagged: there are two vise and grinder stand threads i started last year because the first one in this section lost traction. the one in the fabrication section still gets great stands posted with or without my assistance.
some guys are putting a plate on the cement pole in their garages that are guarding their heaters from getting hit by a car which is a great idea if you might have one in your home. or put one on wheels like some have. or a hitch attachment on each side of the bench so you can have it both directions since it's missing it's swivel.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise
JZ: thanks for the kudos and those old Reed C series vises are some of my favorites. i didn't see the alligator, but i bet i won't want to get my hand stuck in that vise.
joe.striper
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I texted the Fisher Norris museum curator about parts availability. I'll let you know. ..
Craptain
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Joe you are an enabler that's what you are. How many of my project's have you seen finished?
I don't need another project. I don't need another project.
If I keep saying it I might believe it.
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econotrk
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Got my 5198 together and took some pics. I really like some of the 51xx vises where guys painted the lead screw rings, it just didn't work for me though. I tried red, grey, a combination of both, in the end I like it better without. Maybe just the wrong color for painted rings.
I need a little help with a tightness issue in the lead screw. The vise nut spins freely on the screw. The lead screw turns freely in the slide, but when together there is a tight spot that got a bit better by leaving a bit of play in the collar. But any looser it gets sloppy. Thinking maybe the lead screw has a bend in it?
I need a little help with a tightness issue in the lead screw. The vise nut spins freely on the screw. The lead screw turns freely in the slide, but when together there is a tight spot that got a bit better by leaving a bit of play in the collar. But any looser it gets sloppy. Thinking maybe the lead screw has a bend in it?
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trijeff
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Um, the P98 is going to have to be pried from my cold dead hands, especially after the jewelry from the Rev
topop101
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econoJust out of curiosity, did you grease the back side of the lead screw where it meets the D jaw?
econotrk
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Are you talking about between the collar and the dynamic jaw, or the front side? I'd say yes but easy enough to check and make sure.
Shiftless
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He's Baaack!
After getting at least one of his listings flagged off of C/L, maybe both of them, I see the infamous $50 LA Wilton bullet man from a few days ago is back with a ten dollar higher price and a photo with his toes edited out.
Unless there is something horribly wrong with this Wilton (C2??) it is worth far more than sixty bucks. But be fairly warned, this seller is "difficult" to say the least. Don't ask questions...If you want it just tell him when you can show up with the money. If you are on the fence ignore the listing. Several other members will second this advice.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/tls/5049878979.html
Where are you BigCaddy?
After getting at least one of his listings flagged off of C/L, maybe both of them, I see the infamous $50 LA Wilton bullet man from a few days ago is back with a ten dollar higher price and a photo with his toes edited out.
Unless there is something horribly wrong with this Wilton (C2??) it is worth far more than sixty bucks. But be fairly warned, this seller is "difficult" to say the least. Don't ask questions...If you want it just tell him when you can show up with the money. If you are on the fence ignore the listing. Several other members will second this advice.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/tls/5049878979.html
Where are you BigCaddy?
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that looks nice, that thing is in Awesome shape. you can take the lead screw out and roll it on a table top and tell if its whopped at all, a little play is good so its not binding.
the vise looks great.
topop101
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Front side.
bagged89s10
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Thanks for the link on the stands thread. My Wilton doesn't have a center hole for a swivel base like I thought most older Wiltons have. Correct me if I'm wrong about the center hole.
here is one of the threads on vise stands. http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799
econotrk
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that looks nice, that thing is in Awesome shape. you can take the lead screw out and roll it on a table top and tell if its whopped at all, a little play is good so its not binding.
the vise looks great.
Thanks Ted, sure made things easy for me being in such nice condition.
I'm thinking that the next move is checking the lead screw. It goes from very nice to too tight to be pleasant to work with.
Front side definitely has been greased, thanks.
Shiftless
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Bagged : Regarding the center hole in early bullets, my 3HD dated 9-45 has a threaded hole in the center.
bigcaddy
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that looks nice, that thing is in Awesome shape. you can take the lead screw out and roll it on a table top and tell if its whopped at all, a little play is good so its not binding.
the vise looks great.
Shiftless
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Big Caddy:
I heard that you were away but thought I should alert you to a big Wilton bullet possible a C2 listed on the LA Craigslist for $60 San Gabriel Valley
Be careful with the guy. One of us should pick up this bargain and it won't be me.
I heard that you were away but thought I should alert you to a big Wilton bullet possible a C2 listed on the LA Craigslist for $60 San Gabriel Valley
Be careful with the guy. One of us should pick up this bargain and it won't be me.
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