How may Cman ratchets been warrantied?

[sberry]

I bet statistically this has been the most faulty tool in human history. They make the same pos for decades. I wonder how many units were replaced? Its go to be a million?
I am really tempted to send ponchoguy a 1/4 with 4 minutes of use and see how long it is a go to tool.
Even Meijers the grocery store has sourced a line with a good ratchet. They mark it up, its not flea cheap but its good. I see a box of 1/4 at 15$ in some suberb, its price wasn't a super bargain but it isn't a defective tool either. I think the user might even be impressed if he didn't know where it came from and they do have warranty but my money is they gonna need to go down that road few and far between.
You would bring it back during the store warranty or they never see it again. It will work for its intended purpose and die in a tool box, be lost, be divorced before it ever wears out, someone might get it and like this cool old ratchet that still works.
The guy that gets the Sears is going to be looking to get the "free warranty" forever.

 

[morrillm06]

I don't understand all the hate for cman ratchets. There not priced with higher end brands and I have 4 or 5 of them (made in usa) and have only every broke one with a cheater pipe on it. And I am not easy on tools, they are constantly toted to the junk yard and race track and back, getting abused by many people who don't care about them because there not theirs.

 

[stage20]

craftsman is getting beat to death again. its like how the flu goes around in batches. id rather talk about harbor freight tools. at least there is always new material to joke at poke at them.

 

[sberry]

Sears should have got the guys that made this 20 yrs ago to make theirs,,, they didn't which left HF to steal the spot.
It outworked cman and napa 10 to 1 and aint ever skipped a single fine tooth.

 

[Kensgarage]

I still reach for the older stuff most the time on outside. The fancy's stay in the shop.
This morning I left with about a 1969 Tootsie roll in 3/8" and an old Blackhawk flex.
Used the flex because it's knurled. Antifreeze and tootsie rolls don't cut it.

 

[woody 73]

I look at this way with the new age of hunting out garage sales on the web I am finding deals out the wazoo. So when I do find those older ratchets (all makes and models from different companies) I buy them up. So when someone says oh I hate that so and so poor model, blah, blah, blah, I reach for another different model.

In this day and age I do not understand why you only have so few ratchets to use?

 

[Ponchoguy]

I bet statistically this has been the most faulty tool in human history. They make the same pos for decades. I wonder how many units were replaced? Its go to be a million?
I am really tempted to send ponchoguy a 1/4 with 4 minutes of use and see how long it is a go to tool.
Even Meijers the grocery store has sourced a line with a good ratchet. They mark it up, its not flea cheap but its good. I see a box of 1/4 at 15$ in some suberb, its price wasn't a super bargain but it isn't a defective tool either. I think the user might even be impressed if he didn't know where it came from and they do have warranty but my money is they gonna need to go down that road few and far between.
You would bring it back during the store warranty or they never see it again. It will work for its intended purpose and die in a tool box, be lost, be divorced before it ever wears out, someone might get it and like this cool old ratchet that still works.
The guy that gets the Sears is going to be looking to get the "free warranty" forever.

Send it my way, it will be a lifetime tool. Of course, all the "keyboard commandos" on this forum with their comments will believe otherwise, but few have the gusto to say what I will say:

If they are so bad, send them to those of us that know better. I'd put a good bet that if I went through virtually every garage, toolbox and such on this forum, there's a Craftsman RP somewhere in there.

Most if not all of those warrantied ratchets are done so out of ignorance. If you can't rebuild one, you're a sorry case. They are simple to do.

The bottom line is you have your opinion, I have mine. How many on this forum would have as many tools as they do (or as extensive of a tool collection) if they had to do it without Craftsman?

I choose not to take out a second mortgage to have a sizable tool collection, but that's me.

When are you sending the 1/4" ratchet my way?

 

[woody 73]

Sberry without even thinking about craftsman Ratchet warranty these are just a few used ratchets that I found at garage sales are you not able to find any in your area?

 

[guyinthe64]

They aren't the greatest feeling, and the teeth aren't exactly fine, but I have a couple that are 20 yrs old with no issues.

 

[jakemac]

 

[stage20]

Sberry without even thinking about craftsman Ratchet warranty these are just a few used ratchets that I found at garage sales are you not able to find any in your area?

black rubber handles wright or powrkraft branded?

 

[woody 73]

Wright ratchets...

Sberry darn you live out in the sticks but I am sure it is a great place to enjoy nature and not have to face the crack heads that I see walking around the city.

Anyhow not sure just how far you are away from the following Michigan town but I found something interesting for you to look at:

http://centralmich.craigslist.org/tls/5210217756.html

 

[sberry]

I don't think that is a 60's ratchet and I got a handful like it. I bought 3 that felt ok for about that price too, one I never use is ok, another maybe ok and one died, got replaced and isn't much better.
It really isn't a Sears rant but I aint the only story so I was wondering just how many they have replaced. I havnt tried any new premium but havnt clicked a super good ratchet from them since some old round head and I believe it looks a lot like an SK. Maybe Easco) Had to be 70's at the latest.
I just wonder why after so long they never really fixed it leading to even closer scrutiny of the rest of it. HF had a junky ratchet to start, they weeded it out in short order.

 

[sberry]

Sberry without even thinking about craftsman Ratchet warranty these are just a few used ratchets that I found at garage sales are you not able to find any in your area?

Right, those are probably pretty good but not a 80's pear head in the bunch.
I finally traded my 80's 3/8 flex for a new one, it never did work right. The ratchet mech was **** and the retainer ball never worked and had to have body tape around it to hold a socket on the floppy sucker.
I simple tool, 3 problems.

 

[ironmutt]

i dont use the cf raised panel just cause i dont like the feel in my hand that being said i have a 24 flex head 1/2 cf rachet in the box simply because the ten years ive had it i have never had to rebuild it and i aint nice to it think 250 pounds standing on the end of a five foot pipe kinda treatment . i started with garage find cf and no name stuff and buy what i know i will like in my hand be it hf snap on or mac and matco but the op did raise a valid question how many tools has sears had to warranty over the years and how many are out there that could be warantied cause as a money point that might explain some of the decisions they have made over the years as to coo and mfg techniques

 

[Steevo]

I own about seven or eight Craftsman ratchets, primarily older RP versions. I have had two occasions in the last 30 years to warranty one of them, and in both cases, I searched for a store with repair kits in stock, so I wouldn't have to surrender my older ratchet for a newer and (potentially) inferior version.
I have experienced more failures of other brands (of which I own fewer examples) in the same time period, some of which were not warrantable.
I do not understand the Craftsman hatred that exists here on GJ. I own several Snap-On and Mac and Matco ratchets of similar vintage, and they are not any better in quality or longevity. If people are comparing old RP Craftsman to current 80 tooth Snap-On, or other "latest/greatest" products, then , what do you expect?
Is your 1976 Plymouth Duster equivalent to your 2015 Corvette? Of course not.

 

[Brownsfan]

I have warrantied 1 Craftsman ratchet since I started buying tools I the late 90s. And it was a 84t USA made premium in 1/4" drive. I used them for years until I discovered tool trucks. I still have my original 3 I bought in the late 90s. Not the best but certainly not the worst. That said. My favorite ratchets are the Craftsman premiums . Always grab them.

 

[Bobcat753]

I agree.

 

[stihlntime]

I don't see it as a rant but a statement of how sorry and in decline the rp ucraftsman have become. I prolly have fifteen or so of the old rp craftsman in about every style made in the 70's and early 80's. Its been a steady state of decline. I just bought a 3/8 drive bit set that included a China made 3/8 ratchet and it is the sorriest excuse for a ratchet I've ever owned. Selector is so sloppy it won't stay in place, it is looser than one of Tampa's women. HF new 72 tooth kicks its hiney. I am done with Craftsman of today too many better options. I will continue to pick up old USA made CM at sales.

 

[Tsquare]

I own about seven or eight Craftsman ratchets, primarily older RP versions. I have had two occasions in the last 30 years to warranty one of them, and in both cases, I searched for a store with repair kits in stock, so I wouldn't have to surrender my older ratchet for a newer and (potentially) inferior version.
I have experienced more failures of other brands (of which I own fewer examples) in the same time period, some of which were not warrantable.
I do not understand the Craftsman hatred that exists here on GJ. I own several Snap-On and Mac and Matco ratchets of similar vintage, and they are not any better in quality or longevity. If people are comparing old RP Craftsman to current 80 tooth Snap-On, or other "latest/greatest" products, then , what do you expect?
Is your 1976 Plymouth Duster equivalent to your 2015 Corvette? Of course not.

+1 - the Craftsman bashing is called herd mentality - one sheep follows the other off the cliff

 

[Deadsquiggles]

My favorite go to ratchet is my 1/2" Craftsman Premium or 3/8" Premium for smaller stuff. Made in USA and I've only had to warranty it once and that was from putting a cheater pipe on it. Like others have said, I just don't understand the craftsman hate around here.

 

[XxToolAholicxX]

It's not where the tool is made that makes it superior... It's about the materials used.. Good materials increases the quality and price therefor the corporations don't like that because it cuts into their profits...

 

[sberry]

I just bought a 3/8 drive bit set that included a China made 3/8 ratchet and it is the sorriest excuse for a ratchet I've ever owned. Selector is so sloppy it won't stay in place, it is looser than one of Tampa's women.

I got one as a replacement and its not so great. I was hoping they would change with the move but must have sent the tooling with the job. The steady decline is accurate, as I said the very old roundy's were really good. Once thy went to the pear it went down fast.
The selector issues align with mine, gears are really bad. I am a Sears fan to some extent and a career user who isn't all that fussy but the thing has to work.
I really wasn't thrilled with the ones I got in the early 80's and havnt seen anything but decline. I think maybe they even fixed some socket problems that they had from that era but the ratchet lives on,,, limps on.

 

[franzdom]

I love threads like this, very quaint!

 

[franzdom]

My favorite go to ratchet is my 1/2" Craftsman Premium or 3/8" Premium for smaller stuff. Made in USA and I've only had to warranty it once and that was from putting a cheater pipe on it. Like others have said, I just don't understand the craftsman hate around here.

Why did you "have" to warranty it?
I contend that you had more hate for Craftsman by making them replace a tool that shouldn't have been warrantied than most of the haters here harbor. Your actions in that move are part of why they have gone downhill.

 

[neuralsnafu]

Only had to warranty one 1/4" ratchet. The selector broke off. I don't do alot of work, but when I do I'm notorious for beating the **** out of things, using cheater pipes, locking wrenches together... so far so good.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

 

[Ponchoguy]

I'm still waiting for all that "bad" Craftsman to come my way that ya'all have no use for....if they are so bad, why is there one in virtually every household?

 

[67King]

I've warranteed 3 of them. 2 of them locked up, I think both 1/2" drive ones. The 1/4" drive one broke some teeth or somethign, and would skip many, many degrees.

Overall, they are stiff, and have too few teeth. I run into some fasteners where I can't get a decent finger grip on them to turn with my fingers, but they are too stiff to allow the ratchet to turn back.

 

[Mechanical Noise]

I'm still waiting for all that "bad" Craftsman to come my way that ya'all have no use for....if they are so bad, why is there one in virtually every household?

Offer some trades. Have any non-Craftsman ratchets you don't like so much?

 

[franzdom]

I'm still waiting for all that "bad" Craftsman to come my way that ya'all have no use for....if they are so bad, why is there one in virtually every household?

I like my RHFT and perhaps use a few other Craftsman tools occasionally but there are a bunch that I don't even feel would be worth the postage for me to mail them to you.

 

[Ponchoguy]

I like my RHFT and perhaps use a few other Craftsman tools occasionally but there are a bunch that I don't even feel would be worth the postage for me to mail them to you.

They would all easily fit in a flate rate envelope for $6.50.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Offer some trades. Have any non-Craftsman ratchets you don't like so much?

No, most of mine are Craftsman. I would think paying the postage for something you're going to junk would be a good offer.

 

[Mechanical Noise]

No, most of mine are Craftsman. I would think paying the postage for something you're going to junk would be a good offer.

Leaving the Craftsman RP ratchets at the bottom of the toolbox costs nothing in time and effort. If you ever come across some interesting ratchets, say at a garage sale or flea market, give it another try.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Leaving the Craftsman RP ratchets at the bottom of the toolbox costs nothing in time and effort. If you ever come across some interesting ratchets, say at a garage sale or flea market, give it another try.

I'm not clear on what you're trying to say here....

However, leaving them there is one thing, complaining about them is another. If they're taking up space and such bad tools, why keep them?

 

[franzdom]

They would all easily fit in a flate rate envelope for $6.50.

No, sad to admit but I have a LOT more craftsman than that that I don't use.

 

[Ponchoguy]

No, sad to admit but I have a LOT more craftsman than that that I don't use.

Why is that? Alot fits in a flat rate package....

 

[Ponchoguy]

No, sad to admit but I have a LOT more craftsman than that that I don't use.

My offer stands. If it's USA made Craftsman and you don't want it, I'll take it. If not, it can't be that bad if you don't want to get rid of them....

 

[Mechanical Noise]

I'm not clear on what you're trying to say here....

Seems simple enough. I have a few Craftsman pear head ratchets I'm willing to trade for other ratchets.

However, leaving them there is one thing, complaining about them is another.

Craftsman owes me one complaint for each time their ratchets have skipped or slipped. It's only fair.

If they're taking up space and such bad tools, why keep them?

They're not hurting anything just by taking up space. They're aren't worth much to me but, if they have value to someone else, that makes them more interesting.

 

[Ponchoguy]

Seems simple enough. I have a few Craftsman pear head ratchets I'm willing to trade for other ratchets.



Craftsman owes me one complaint for each time their ratchets have skipped or slipped. It's only fair.



They're not hurting anything just by taking up space. They're aren't worth much to me but, if they have value to someone else, that makes them more interesting.

---So, you'd take a made in Taiwan cheapo in exchange for a USA made Craftsman? I mean they're both tools that tighten and loosen things, right? Equal in the eyes of most here....

---Rebuild kits work wonders.....

---Ah, but they are worth enough to you that you won't a) throw them away, b) give them to someone that will use (and appreciate) them more than you will. Hence they have decent value.

 

[logical]

Quit begging for our ratchets. It wasn't clever 6 threads ago, isn't clever now and nobody is going to give you the satisfaction. I am not 100% totally satisfied with half of what I own but that doesn't mean I'm looking to give it away.