The VISES of Garage Journal
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Re: A little help please?
Yep. The docs say anything that is in the house the day they accepted my offer is considered part of the house.
I gave the vise to the son along with an old light hanging in the kitchen. I offered him the small work bench but he declined, it is pretty crappy though.
Yep. The docs say anything that is in the house the day they accepted my offer is considered part of the house.
I gave the vise to the son along with an old light hanging in the kitchen. I offered him the small work bench but he declined, it is pretty crappy though.
rpenterics
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Nice, thanks for the info, looks like I overpaid based on 1930's pricing
Thanks, pretty happy with it for my first find!
How do you generally go about removing the pin for the swivel jaw? Haven't tried to take it out yet.
drivesitfar
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Ryan: nice find for your first effort and yes you overpaid for it. i'd be happy to pay you what you paid so you won't have to take a loss on your first vise purchase. 
it looks like the swivel jaw and pin were painted in that position maybe 50 years ago so first off you need to get the paint off. there are plenty of tips in the vise repair 101 thread on removing pins and easiest to do it from below up so take out the dynamic and maybe the vise nut before you try.
congrats on your find.
Lu-Max: well done and i bet that made you and him feel good. Also good luck with the move and new garage build. like i mentioned there are a lot of codes to building in most areas so get all the information you can before you start so the dollars for your shop don't skyrocket out of control before you start.
good luck
it looks like the swivel jaw and pin were painted in that position maybe 50 years ago so first off you need to get the paint off. there are plenty of tips in the vise repair 101 thread on removing pins and easiest to do it from below up so take out the dynamic and maybe the vise nut before you try.
congrats on your find.
Lu-Max: well done and i bet that made you and him feel good. Also good luck with the move and new garage build. like i mentioned there are a lot of codes to building in most areas so get all the information you can before you start so the dollars for your shop don't skyrocket out of control before you start.
good luck
joe.striper
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Here is a Palmgren double rotating angle adjustable vise I just finished the restore on. Dismantled, wire wheeled, BLO baked on finish then greased and remantled (is there such a word?).
I decidec on BLO because it will probably end up on a Bridgeport somewhere and I thought BLO would hold up better than paint.
It was cool to find all the adjustment markings when I was cleaning it up.
No to try and figure value for this. Cannit find anything about these anywhere. ..yet.
Anyway I thought I'd share!!
I decidec on BLO because it will probably end up on a Bridgeport somewhere and I thought BLO would hold up better than paint.
It was cool to find all the adjustment markings when I was cleaning it up.
No to try and figure value for this. Cannit find anything about these anywhere. ..yet.
Anyway I thought I'd share!!
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Shiftless
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Joe:
Thanks for posting those pics. I've never seen one with that many different planes of adjustability. Wow!
The BLO finish makes sense. Plus, the vise was so well made and in such great shape, you didn't have to paint it up to hide defects.
GETRIDAONE
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Joe, Great looking vise ! That one is just waiting for a finger to pinch. 
joe.striper
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Joe, Great looking vise ! That one is just waiting for a finger to pinch.
Already pinched thank u very much!
oldldh
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JOE----
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
ZRX61
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Think I paid $2 for the one I have
joe.striper
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Hey Old, i didn't buy this one, GJ member bought it and we brokered a deal where i restore it and sell it and we have an equitable split of the income. Good deal as far as I'm concerned.
I appreciate the compliments, especially coming from a most senior member of the GJ phalanx!!!
McBrownie
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KMScott
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Re visiting the Fastenal method of vise shipping. I had to ship a 165 lb vise to New Mexico and even though it is not that far the quotes from UPS were expensive. Two packages at $90 each. I thought this might be a great Fastenal test.
Fastenal calls it Third Party Logistics (3PL) and it took a while before I found it on their site. How it works is you go to this Link www.fastenal.com/3pl and on the bottom of the page key in the zip code click Next and it takes you to a page where you fill in the 3rd Party Logistics Request Form which wants to know what you are shipping, where and who is picking it up along with it's value. What is neat is the vise owner is the one who pays for the shipping when they pick it up from the store. So no $$'s out of your pocket. Here is the quote and the form they sent back to me. They charged a $100 for shipping the 600S.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-zmsJ4xf/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-zmsJ4xf/0/S/Fastenal_Form-S.jpg" alt=""></a>
A few things to note is the store you ship from must have a fork lift since your vise is most likely bolted to a pallet. The kicker is your vise is insured for the value you post but for it to be insured you have to in close it in a box. No sweat, just need plywood, screws and 2 x 2 fir strips.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-dt7GfHq/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-dt7GfHq/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%283%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-gSX5CXJ/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-gSX5CXJ/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%286%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-CzXSXdq/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-CzXSXdq/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%2810%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-fcsJ4KB/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-fcsJ4KB/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%2812%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a>
The vise took a long trip before getting to Albuquerque, left Denver and went to ST Louis, to Salt Lake, then to Denton TX and finally to Albuquerque in a 2-1/2 week adventure. Arrived safe and sound as noted by the customer.
Hi, Kevin
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. The crate was in pristine condition – the shipping label taped onto the top was not even scratched. I also noticed you went to the trouble of clipping off the points of some of the screws – I am impressed!
I will be shipping with Fastenal again and it does not have to be a vise, how about a heavy vise stand like the ones Joe Stripper picked up a while ago. That reminds me.
Joe nice restore on the compound angle vise you did, a great tool for light machining.
Fastenal calls it Third Party Logistics (3PL) and it took a while before I found it on their site. How it works is you go to this Link www.fastenal.com/3pl and on the bottom of the page key in the zip code click Next and it takes you to a page where you fill in the 3rd Party Logistics Request Form which wants to know what you are shipping, where and who is picking it up along with it's value. What is neat is the vise owner is the one who pays for the shipping when they pick it up from the store. So no $$'s out of your pocket. Here is the quote and the form they sent back to me. They charged a $100 for shipping the 600S.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-zmsJ4xf/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-zmsJ4xf/0/S/Fastenal_Form-S.jpg" alt=""></a>
A few things to note is the store you ship from must have a fork lift since your vise is most likely bolted to a pallet. The kicker is your vise is insured for the value you post but for it to be insured you have to in close it in a box. No sweat, just need plywood, screws and 2 x 2 fir strips.
<a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-dt7GfHq/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-dt7GfHq/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%283%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-gSX5CXJ/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-gSX5CXJ/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%286%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-CzXSXdq/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-CzXSXdq/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%2810%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a><a href="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-fcsJ4KB/A"><img src="https://visejaws.smugmug.com/Jaw-Cutting/i-fcsJ4KB/0/S/Crating%20a%20vise%20%2812%29-S.jpg" alt=""></a>
The vise took a long trip before getting to Albuquerque, left Denver and went to ST Louis, to Salt Lake, then to Denton TX and finally to Albuquerque in a 2-1/2 week adventure. Arrived safe and sound as noted by the customer.
Hi, Kevin
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. The crate was in pristine condition – the shipping label taped onto the top was not even scratched. I also noticed you went to the trouble of clipping off the points of some of the screws – I am impressed!
I will be shipping with Fastenal again and it does not have to be a vise, how about a heavy vise stand like the ones Joe Stripper picked up a while ago. That reminds me.
Joe nice restore on the compound angle vise you did, a great tool for light machining.
joe.striper
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Thanks Kevin, this is good to know...
wrenchguy
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i shipped a 900 lbs 4'x6' pallet of tractor parts from nw indiana to killeen tx for $150, took 3 days. its impossible to ship to California thru fastenal.
drivesitfar
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ALL: i've use Fastenal maybe a dozen times and so far they have been awesome. i drop off my pallets at the distribution warehouse that is 45 minutes from my house instead of the store that is 5 minutes away. i started doing this maybe 18 months ago and since i now know the manager of the store in front and the warehouse manager I'll keep driving to thier location. not all the stores are even aware of this shipping option so maybe before you ship to or from a location near you might stop for a visit to the store and talking to the manager or people working there will help.
Wrenchguy: i've been able to ship to California so maybe they fixed that option since you last called or asked.
Joe: nice work on that cool vise
Wrenchguy: i've been able to ship to California so maybe they fixed that option since you last called or asked.
Joe: nice work on that cool vise
ChargerRT
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Keep us posted! Everyone loves a good score!
bagged89s10
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FMC1959
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Really zooming in on the picture, to the left of the Simplex name, I definitely see a "4". It is a machinists vise and has a swivel so my guess is that it is a model 41 SJ, making it a 4" vise.
Looks OK shape but definitely need to give it a once over in person. In good shape that is a fine vise and anything $50 or less is good, $30 or less is great.
Good luck.
joe.striper
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You guys know what? I'm an idiot!! I went to sell the Palmgren vise today and I said to myself 'why am I selling this GREAT vise?" So I took it off the bench and put it back in my car. I'm going to sell my Cfman XY table and replace it with this.
trijeff
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Have any of you gents used 2K Epoxy Primer for restores/flips? I've been using a self-etching primer but some reading I did indicated that might not be the best bet. The epoxy primer is about 6X more cost than other types of primer, wondering if it's worth it? If you don't use either epoxy or self-etching, what type do you use? Do you use a primer sealer at all? Is a primer even necessary at all if I am doing multiple color (3+) and clear (2+) coats?
bagged89s10
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I haven't been using primer. I've been using BLO after electrolysis as a primer and to stop flash rusting. Actually the last vise I finished, I think I just wire wheeled, then wiped down with tsp substitute before painting. The last time I used primer was on an aluminum housing for a bench grinder. Not sure if my process is correct or not but it seems to work. I know some of the rustoleum, krylon colormaster and hammerite spray paints don't require separate primer. I think the regular rustoleum spray can paint recommends primer though.
sz0k30
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Come on guys! Its a vise not 1 $20,000.00 paint job on a custom car. 
Blue Frog
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Does this device "Fit" with this thread?
Blue
Blue
bagged89s10
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Fretters
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I never bother with primer personally.
Does this device "Fit" with this thread?
Blue
Well yea it does fit this thread--BUT it is unrestored and unpainted!!!!
Get with the program!!!
So guys always post great deal you found in this thread.
Well i paid $145 plus $36 in shipping on ebay for a 6" Wilton USA made Mechanics Vise. Get the vise today and it a 4" vise.... beat that!
but was able to find a wilton C-2 on craglist for $1750.
http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/5319353229.html
lol
Well i paid $145 plus $36 in shipping on ebay for a 6" Wilton USA made Mechanics Vise. Get the vise today and it a 4" vise.... beat that!
but was able to find a wilton C-2 on craglist for $1750.
http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/5319353229.html
lol
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Mr_P
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Is that a 3"? Too high for me for size/condition. Can't believe the OP doesn't know how to use a washer.
Lots of people advertise vises in max opening, not jaw with. Because at the end of the day I guess 6" sounds better than 4".
Lots of people advertise vises in max opening, not jaw with. Because at the end of the day I guess 6" sounds better than 4".
bagged89s10
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I have a chance to by this little guy for $150.what do you think?
I would have to get it shipped as I'm about 15 hours from home and have to fly back tomorrow....
Jaw numbers 101027 and 101028.
Depends on your vise needs/wants. If you didn't have to ship it, I'd probably buy it for $125.
kunkernator
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I was curious about this as well. On my recent restore, once I dipped the vise in Zepresto to dissolve the paint, it also dissolved what appeared to be filler in a casting imperfection near one of the hold down holes. I assumed it was like this from the factory because it doesnt appear to 'damage', rather a defect.
Is it known for Wilton to use filler to hide imperfections?
Oh ok. It does have 6"+ opening. He was not clear at all in listing.
bagged89s10
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This is probably the best Wilton tradesman snap on restore ever.
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/111827576865
http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/111827576865
bobcatdan
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Finally found the right iron to make my vise pedestal. Plain and simple, but I think it should hold the 6" Morgan just fine. Going to let it sit in this spot for a while to see if I really like it there. Once I decide I like it, I'll bolt it to the floor. If not then I have some real hard thinking because I don't have a better spot.
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Fretters
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It looks okay, but at the end of the day, it's all CNC produced stuff. There's no actual craftmanship in it.