The VISES of Garage Journal

[exmaxima1]

I agree, most likely a lunch box baby

The seller is from Gilberts IL, which is adjacent to where the current Wiltons are machined (Elgin IL). I agree it is very conceivable that a current Wilton employee got hold of that baby......

I would ask the seller about it if I was going to bid.

 

[Outlawmws]

Outlaw-- you changed your hat! I like the elf shoe better

So go put your's on... (Check the Blood donation thread)

 

[macgee]

I've been keeping an eye out for vises for a while and seen nothing...and then yesterday I committed to what looks to be a minty Craftsman 506–51811 (picking it up tomorrow). Today, I see a CL ad for a Reeds 104 1/2.

Question for you vise gurus - what would be a good price for a Reeds 104 1/2? It's a 4 hole mount model with the rounded front knob and looks to be in very good shape. It would be an 1 1/2 hour drive one way. I don't need it, but I love the Hollands/Reeds vises.

Not to belittle your Craftsman vise, they are fine vises but the Reed is one of the best vises you can get. It's a true vise that can take a serious beating and has a function built into it to accommodate wear (backlash). Reeds are very well made and it's also probably twice the size or more of the craftsman if they have the same jaw width. Does that Reed have a swivel base?

There's a beautiful Reed 104s for sale on craigs in Ronkonkoma, NY in excellent condition which is not too close to you but that is a really nice vise to have. There's someone selling two vises in Amsterdam, NY but there not as nice as the Reed above.

 

[Outlawmws]

MB - the 5181 is a decent vise and at 41 lbs, not a lightweight, but the Reed 104-1/2 while having less 1/2" less jaw, and "only" 15 lbs heavier, is twice the vise. Its probably fixed base, but I have needed to use my swivel on my Parker maybe two-three times in >30 years of using it...

Easy solution: buy both... Many, if not most of us have multiple vises in use.

 

[Bcom]

So go put your's on... (Check the Blood donation thread)

Hahaha! I got elf shoe hats too! Courtesy of outlaw!

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

I've been keeping an eye out for vises for a while and seen nothing...and then yesterday I committed to what looks to be a minty Craftsman 506–51811 (picking it up tomorrow). Today, I see a CL ad for a Reeds 104 1/2.

Question for you vise gurus - what would be a good price for a Reeds 104 1/2? It's a 4 hole mount model with the rounded front knob and looks to be in very good shape. It would be an 1 1/2 hour drive one way. I don't need it, but I love the Hollands/Reeds vises.

I have had five Reeds, have two left. A 404 1/2 R that will be passed down and a 203 R that I am restoring. It needed a new handle and some cleanup but a great little vise. Worked on quite a few vises over the last few years and Reeds are hard to beat when it comes to casting, durability, style and precision. If the price fits your budget and you want a great piece of equipment buy it.

 

[G-ManBart]

I've been keeping an eye out for vises for a while and seen nothing...and then yesterday I committed to what looks to be a minty Craftsman 506–51811 (picking it up tomorrow). Today, I see a CL ad for a Reeds 104 1/2.

Question for you vise gurus - what would be a good price for a Reeds 104 1/2? It's a 4 hole mount model with the rounded front knob and looks to be in very good shape. It would be an 1 1/2 hour drive one way. I don't need it, but I love the Hollands/Reeds vises.

I have a Reed 104 1/2R with the four bolt holes and flattened spindle and it's a very, very nice vise. It's on my "not for sale list" of 4-5 vises if that means anything. I got it for $100 and was happy to pay it. I'm not sure how it was used, but the jaw serrations are as sharp as can be and the whole vise is super tight with little play anywhere, but still extremely smooth operating.

 

[trijeff]

Yep, love love love my transition Reed 104 1/2 R, also on my not for sale list. Feel like I stole it at $45, after restoring (it was my first Reed) and seeing the amazing quality, easily would have paid $100 or more.

 

[Tomthumb717]

MISSLE - I currently have a REED 103, 203 1/2 and 204 1/2 and can attest to their stoutness.

 

[Rileysan]

A 4.5" Reed in good condition would easily bring $150 here in the Pacific NW - possibly even more. Condition is key!

 

[mike_paxton]

Thanks for all the suggestions!!!

Fretters: That main nut is also stuck in place.

Topop101: Found your link on how you pulled a pin out of another old Prentiss with pics!!!

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5686892&highlight=topop101#post5686892

I also saw a reply underneath Topop101 in the Vise REpair 101 forum by CwazyWabbit in post 2917 that might work with a stuck nut and with tools I have on hand.

Knew I was under thinking this and thanks for all the great suggestions!!!

Mike

Got an early Christmas present, as the stuck pin in the dynamic jaw of the Prentiss 22 has now been extracted.

Used a bridge clamp with a punch bit in hole underneath while using a large socket over the pin on top.

Tried method first on Sunday. Not successful, but after finished put in some vinegar in hole underneath pin and let it sit.

Tried Tues and with same results, so again vinegar in hole after finished and let it sit.

Today (Wed), and before started, removed vinegar and put in some PB Blaster in hole and clamped it all up. Used cheater bar on bridge clamp handle and eventually heard a nice pop.

Of course the dynamic jaw without the pin was still stuck solid, but with some hammering and going back to using bridge clamp, I've moved the dynamic jaw about a 1/2" inch so far.

Mike

 

[72highboy]

Found another for sale, never seen one before but I'm still new to this game
Prentiss 'bull dog' no. 94, looks like 5 in jaws

Looks a little, edit: well worn in but I don't notice any big damage, seller is asking $50 with the stand, I think it's worth taking a look
Anybody have more info about these?

Cheers

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[72highboy]

Okay not done yet, another Prentiss, same asking price..

Looks older?
Can't tell the model number but have been told it's got 4 in jaws..
Again any info would be appreciated
Thanks

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[Outlawmws]

I'd walk away from that Prentice. The screw has been replaced (broken?) and the "head" is a pipe tee.

 

[Fretters]

I'd walk away from that Prentice. The screw has been replaced (broken?) and the "head" is a pipe tee.

Looks like there's a chunk missing from the rear of the slide too. That vice has been quite abused.

 

[72highboy]

Wow, didn't even notice the chunk missing.. And here I was thinking, 'that's a screw head I've never seen before'.. and the more I look at the first one the more it looks beat on [emoji53]

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[Shiftless]

That broken Prentiss would make a fantastic set of book ends!

 

[trijeff]

The Prentiss 94 actually looks pretty good to me ... no cracked slide and has a stand with a 1/2" plate for $50? Esp if this will be a user, go get that!

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[kwoswalt99]

Looks like there's a chunk missing from the rear of the slide too. That vice has been quite abused.

Not so much abused as dropped on the floor.

 

[wrenchguy]

Of course the dynamic jaw without the pin was still stuck solid, but with some hammering and going back to using bridge clamp, I've moved the dynamic jaw about a 1/2" inch so far. Mike

i had to throw my parker 276 rear swiveler body in bucket of contaminated diesel for a couple months to get it to move fractional, then worked it back forth little more each day. they're machined very close. diesel travels good thru rusted seized stuff. good luck.

 

[Outlawmws]

Not so much abused as dropped on the floor.

I'd guess they pulled or pushed the stand over...

 

[matta5]

Don't know a thing about vise's anyone can tell me anything about these? cant find any marking on the big one.

 

[Outlawmws]

The big rotatory is asian.

 

[matta5]

Figured so with no markings, any idea of age of the small one? thanks in advance

 

[72highboy]

The Prentiss 94 has been put on hold...Tis the season of double pinned c0s.. Pics when I get home.. Worst seller I've ever dealt with
Cheers

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[bluebolt]

There are two different stands in those Prentiss photos, are there two different vises?

Edit yes two different vises, one has horizontal lettering on the static jaw the other has vertical!

 

[kwoswalt99]

That rotary looks like a Larin.

 

[Mr. Soup]

I have an old Chas Parker machine vise but can't figure out how to upload a pic from my phone.

 

[bluebolt]

I have a Reed 104 1/2R with the four bolt holes and flattened spindle and it's a very, very nice vise. It's on my "not for sale list" of 4-5 vises if that means anything. I got it for $100 and was happy to pay it. I'm not sure how it was used, but the jaw serrations are as sharp as can be and the whole vise is super tight with little play anywhere, but still extremely smooth operating.

All my vises are for sale. Reed's are my Favorite and a Craftsman Reed is even better. So I overprice my keepers so no one buys them. My Reed 206 is $2000 firm and my Reed 1C is $1000 firm. My Craftsman Reed 5186 is $1500.

 

[Mr. Soup]

Mine

 

[bluebolt]

Mr. Soup that is a decent looking Parker what is the jaw width?

 

[Mr. Soup]

Mr. Soup that is a decent looking Parker what is the jaw width?

It's 4"

 

[va.grouseman]

All my vises are for sale. Reed's are my Favorite and a Craftsman Reed is even better. So I overprice my keepers so no one buys them. My Reed 206 is $2000 firm and my Reed 1C is $1000 firm. My Craftsman Reed 5186 is $1500.

Blue,When I read (''ALL MY VISES ARE FOR SALE"), I immediately was going to scold you and make you feel real bad.---But I read a little further and you redeemed yourself.---I guess if someone was to pay those prices, I couldn't fault you.---I have a 206 and a 208 and I'd be afraid to even do what you did, price them at all.---Someone might call my bluff.---As you know, just like many vise pundits on here, Reeds are my favorite bar none.---I guess Hollands, and Starretts, are second, and third covers a lot of really fine brands to.---You-all know what they are.

 

[bluebolt]

My NOS Wil-Burt Versa Vise - Columbian Gyro Vise accessories arrived today!

I ran across these a few days ago while doing some research on these vises, apparently this woodworker supply house used to sell Versa Vises and found some leftover accessories. I believe these were made toward the end of production.

The four bases have the same part number as my earlier original Columbian Gyro vises 4-1001-2 however as you can see buy the picture comparing the new and old the underneath has more material in the center on the new one. What you can't tell by the pictures is the 3 mounting legs are slightly thicker too, 10.577 mm on the new one compared to 9.73 mm on the old one.

The screw on clamp mount has 4-1058-0 cast in it and as you can see in the pictures only has a few spots of paint rubbed off from shelf life.

 

[Boatman53]

Awesome find Bluebolt. Just saw your PM, my offer stands.
Jim

 

[72highboy]

There are two different stands in those Prentiss photos, are there two different vises?

Edit yes two different vises, one has horizontal lettering on the static jaw the other has vertical!

Yup, that was two different listings I found, although, I need to take a break for a while after my new purchase

Mine

Nice Parker, that's on my list of vises I want at some point

My NOS Wil-Burt Versa Vise - Columbian Gyro Vise accessories arrived today!

I ran across these a few days ago while doing some research on these vises, apparently this woodworker supply house used to sell Versa Vises and found some leftover accessories. I believe these were made toward the end of production.

The four bases have the same part number as my earlier original Columbian Gyro vises 4-1001-2 however as you can see buy the picture comparing the new and old the underneath has more material in the center on the new one. What you can't tell by the pictures is the 3 mounting legs are slightly thicker too, 10.577 mm on the new one compared to 9.73 mm on the old one.

The screw on clamp mount has 4-1058-0 cast in it and as you can see in the pictures only has a few spots of paint rubbed off from shelf life.

^^^awesome


Pictures of my newest, '67 double pinned c0

I think it looks really clean overall.. There's too many hammer/saw marks but nothing that looks like it was abused.. I'm excited, it's a really good looking vise, and my first Wilton! .. Other than having to deal with that seller, I'm happy with the purchase, I was really pushing for 160 and ended up giving 180 for it.. Much more than I would have but I'm betting on the word of gj'ers that this has some value.. Depending on how well it cleans up I'll use it or keep it stored, I have to many to pick from to pick a user now haha

Cheers fellas

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[Tomthumb717]

72 - nice pickup on the CO I don't think you overpaid at all

 

[bluebolt]

Nice score on the C0 Wilton 72Highboy.

 

[Shiftless]

If bluebolt has a Reed 206 and asking $2000 what sky high price should I ask for my double swiveller Reed 406? It is an unwieldy monster that I initially intended to flip but once I get the pin free things may change.

More than a few are asking about it.

Hiboy:
You got a great vise for a fair price. A man never forgets his first Wilton.

 

[cajunfirehawk]

Pictures of my newest, '67 double pinned c0
Cheers fellas

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72highboy, welcome to the C-0 double pinned club, and as an FYI KMCScott will have some replacement double pinned pipe jaws if you want replace yours, as soon as he makes his next run he will have some in stock, I sent him one of mine for dimensions.
BTW any chance of getting a shot at the underside of your base?