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Bcom

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BCom: for some of the bigger vises i've bought and own if i'm going to do some work on them i take the dynamic out all the way and move them around in 2 or 3 pieces. it is sometimes a bit hard to screw them back together so i've had good luck laying them on their sides so i can line up the screw and vise nut, but you do it any way you like cause it's your 4c.

Thanks for the advice. Ill give it a shot. Gotta go out and get jaw pics for VAgrouse here soon.
 
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I have been laid up for two weeks after injuring my back while working on my 4C. Conjecture is pinched nerve affecting my right side. I have it in two pieces as Drive suggested. I am going to screw 3/4 plywood to a cheap HF furniture dolly to facilitate moving it around. Congratulations on your find I know how excited I was to find mine.
It really is an awesome piece.
 

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I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but how do you recommend packing 35#-70# vises to ship?

There is a thread dedicated to that. I'll have to try finding it...

I build a small crate that goes inside a heavy box. I set this inside the box, then screw a plywood top on, or at least three 3" wide strips....very secure.

 

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G-Man, the 208R is top of the line to me until I find the 209R.---I would have to say my 2 favorites are the 208R and the Wilton 600 SJ, Drive sold me.---Next would be the Hollands 28.---VICEs will cotton on to that thing.---How are you finding all these monsters?---You must have minions to.;)
 

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If that 208R was mine, I would have to move it to the outer edge of the stand even if I had to install a counter weight.---Never mount a vise in the center of a stand.---JMO.
 

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NC: I thought for sure i mentioned to LIFT WITH YOUR LEGS. :bounce:

sorry to hear you are in pain. did i mention that you need an inversion table if you want to keep buying these big vises. just hanging 5 minutes a day has usually fixed any tweaks i've had in the last 9 years and for the tougher injuries it might take two or three days of hanging before it moves back into it's original spot. i haven't taken an ADVIL for back pain in 9 years now.

GMAN: i bet it wasn't easy selling that Extreme Green Tradesman cause it's a looker. again that was a great job packing it.

VA: i know the Wilton 600 SJ is maybe down the list as far as restoring, but i know it's in good hands and looking forward to seeing it look as nice as your Starrett 326.
 

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If that 208R was mine, I would have to move it to the outer edge of the stand even if I had to install a counter weight.---Never mount a vise in the center of a stand.---JMO.[/QUOTEJ
Just need to swivel it, it's mounted correctly. As for moving these big guys, look on CL for a Hoyer lift. They're like a mini engine crane, made to lift patients into wheelchairs. I've got 2, paid $5. for 1, $10. for the other. They break down into easily transported parts to take with you for a pickup.
 

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I did this with the 600S I sold, but would like to avoid building a crate for 4"-4 1/2" vises. I had to strip every part off it that I could to keep weight under 150#. It came in at 147#.

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GMAN: i bet it wasn't easy selling that Extreme Green Tradesman cause it's a looker. again that was a great job packing it.

The Paypal deposit took the sting out of it :D

I finished another one in Extreme Green just recently that I haven't posted here before.

A GJ member contacted me after I had sold the 1740 asking if I had another, so I told him about a 1760 I had. He wanted it Extreme Green, with new jaws, so I got it all stripped, primed, painted and cleared and then radio silence for weeks, so I guess it'll go to someone else.

It's a slightly older variation, but was in super condition when I got it....new set of tool steel jaws from Autopts, some factory EG from Snap-On ($24 a can!) and Spraymax 2K clear coat ($18 a can!) and it's pretty nice. I'll wait to see if the new owner wants a SO or Wilton label for the other side.


 

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BLS: you mentioned a 150 pound limit and was that with Fed Ex or a private shipping company? how did you ship the main screw, jaws and swivel base if it had one? nice looking vise almost looks brand new and guessing it's a 1990's or maybe a bit older?

GMAN: you are rivaling TJ or maybe passing him on your GREEN VISE RESTORATIONS. WELL DONE !!
 

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454, you are right.---I didn't pay attention, it is at the edge, just not facing it.---He/she did have it right.


NC, Drive is right, ain't no kind of pills will give you the relief that an inversion table will.---Just used mine 10 minutes ago and it does feel good.


Drive, you know there ain't enough gold monkeys to get me to part with it.---And I will get around to sprucing it up.---It's going to be a real jewel.---Thanks again, I know it was a hard one to part with.


For those of you who have never seen a Wilton 600 swivel jaw.
 

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If that 208R was mine, I would have to move it to the outer edge of the stand even if I had to install a counter weight.---Never mount a vise in the center of a stand.---JMO.



I agree. You should always have the static jaw out even with the table/stand/bench edge.
 
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BLS: you mentioned a 150 pound limit and was that with Fed Ex or a private shipping company? how did you ship the main screw, jaws and swivel base if it had one? nice looking vise almost looks brand new and guessing it's a 1990's or maybe a bit older?

GMAN: you are rivaling TJ or maybe passing him on your GREEN VISE RESTORATIONS. WELL DONE !!

That's the limit with FedEx, UPS, etc. before it has to go freight. I shipped all the other parts in a separate box. It was a new 2016 model. I bought it from a company that deals in unclaimed freight.
 

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That's the limit with FedEx, UPS, etc. before it has to go freight. I shipped all the other parts in a separate box. It was a new 2016 model. I bought it from a company that deals in unclaimed freight.

It can't be. Wilton hasn't made the 600 with the jaw bolt holes from the back side like that for a number of years.
 

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Hmmm. I thought I looked. Now you have me curious. Anyway, it was a new vise, no box, with a few scratches.

It would be interesting to know the date stamp on that one.

I actually prefer that style...the jaws have more serrations, the bolt heads don't get messed up during use, and I'm convinced that setup is stronger.

It's more expensive to make that way, and I'm sure that's why Wilton changed. Their web diagrams for the 600 post-1998 show bolt holes from the face side and I also found the pre-1998 diagram which also has bolt holes from the face side.

Both of mine are from the 1990s and have the bolts from the rear...can't recall the exact years, but definitely 1990s.
 

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It would be interesting to know the date stamp on that one.

I actually prefer that style...the jaws have more serrations, the bolt heads don't get messed up during use, and I'm convinced that setup is stronger.

It's more expensive to make that way, and I'm sure that's why Wilton changed. Their web diagrams for the 600 post-1998 show bolt holes from the face side and I also found the pre-1998 diagram which also has bolt holes from the face side.

Both of mine are from the 1990s and have the bolts from the rear...can't recall the exact years, but definitely 1990s.

I like the look better too.
 

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Anyone know what the original color of a 4C was? It looks like it has a small amount amount of whiteish cream colored paint on it.
 

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BLS: i have a hard time believing that Wilton you had was a new 2016. it did look like new condition that is for certain. my guess is 1990's and is there anyway you can ask the buyer to check the date stamp? he'd have to pull out the dynamic slide as you probably know and easiest way i've found to do that on the bigger bullets is to remove the 3 screws on the horseshoe retainer, unscrew the screw out then remove the dynamic for a looksie. OK?

99: around here that table would sell for twice that. that vise could be a bolt thru version or if not i might be missing the swivel base or have a mount missing. better lift with several people's legs if you buy that table.

VA: happy to hear you still like the Wilton 600 SJ and spiff it up or leave it as is it's your call and of course your vise and money now.

i probably should have traded you for one of your Starrett 326's so email me if selling one of those might help your vise fund kitty.

cheers

ML: hard to say what's going on with the base of that vise isn't it?
 

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Anyone know what the original color of a 4C was? It looks like it has a small amount amount of whiteish cream colored paint on it.

Bcom

Here are some shots of my 2C. Got it from the original owner, he said it was grey. I would call it medium grey. He also said he only used it for woodworking, and wanted the extra jaw depth.

Note that mine is pre patent, yours is post patent.

JKB
 

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