zoomieport
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The VISES of Garage Journal
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zoomieport
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wrenchguy
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2 some it could be the 4c, not old enough me.
zoomieport
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Nailed it!
I just love the look of that vise it is so "transitional" of REED, the snub nose, split-nut, zero backlash, killer main nut, old school markings AND REPLACABLE JAWS.
Agreed though Sir, it isn't that old... Mine has a date stamped on it, but I'm not home... I want to say '56???
Take care Sir!
Mike
trijeff
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Gotcha. In my book, a "unicorn" is a harder to find vise than a Reed 4C. Don't get me wrong, that is a REALLY nice vise and especially nice characteristics with replaceable jaws and all. We've seen more than a handful of the 4Cs though, so not really a "mythical creature" at least to me anymore (but MAN would I love to own one). In the end, just like "restore" that kevin brought up the other day, it's all in the eye of the beholder! Glad there are differences of opinion in the world or it sure would be a boring place 
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zoomieport
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If you find 5 on this site with replacable jaws like that, I'll buy you a beer!
zoomieport
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A BELL's BEER, from Kalamazoo, of course!
trijeff
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I will concede that the replaceable jaws on that one do make it a peach. But I will look because I think I'll need something to wash down the hat I have to eat when someone finds the Pittsburgh RR vise
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zoomieport
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Agreed, IRON CITY BEER it is, CHEERS!
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I got tangled up in the posts on that C0 and I don't know if it was already mentioned. The holes on those C0 jaws are slightly knurled on each side to take and small spring on each side that will seat and centers the jaw on each side.Only 1/4" long about. When reinstalling you must be careful to make sure those springs don't pop out. They usually fall out when the pin s knocked thru and get lost.
drivesitfar
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BLS: i'd still like to see a Wilton C0 with a pin all the way through. anybody got one to post?? interesting KM says the pins on his Wiltons are knurled and none of mine have been. i do know your bolts weren't original and pretty sure i've never seen a single bolt thru C0, but i'd like to see one if there are some that came out of the factory that way.
TJ: here's one Reed 4c with replaceable jaws (actually made by KMScott) so you only have 4 left to find. good luck
S4: i hope that 4c wasn't on CL cause if you post those before you buy them it doesn't always have a happy ending. good luck cause it looks like a KEEPER!!
TJ: here's one Reed 4c with replaceable jaws (actually made by KMScott) so you only have 4 left to find. good luck
S4: i hope that 4c wasn't on CL cause if you post those before you buy them it doesn't always have a happy ending. good luck cause it looks like a KEEPER!!
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I could use some help on a vise I just picked up.
Its a Simplex 33sj (cast on the side) I think it is a swivel jaw but I can't get the pin out of the swivel jaw yet. I am trying pressure on the bottom of the pin with a bolt and coupling nut but so far no luck. I haven't tried heating yet and am waiting for penetrant to work some magic. Anything else I should try?
It also needs a new base it someone has one for sale.
Thanks
Its a Simplex 33sj (cast on the side) I think it is a swivel jaw but I can't get the pin out of the swivel jaw yet. I am trying pressure on the bottom of the pin with a bolt and coupling nut but so far no luck. I haven't tried heating yet and am waiting for penetrant to work some magic. Anything else I should try?
It also needs a new base it someone has one for sale.
Thanks
No, it's not remotely close to that sage green. It's much darker, has some blue to it and plenty of gray. I've painted a vise that exact sage green and it's hugely different.
jakemac
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You're doing the right things. It takes time and persistence.
Oh, and a little tap around the sides of the pin with a plastic hammer every now and then wouldn't hurt either.
Bellaireroad
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Nice....I wonder if the handle has been heated with a torch to straighten it?
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GETRIDAONE
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The patent date is 1930 and refers to the base locking nut and captured wrench. I guess it was made between 1930 & 1940.
Drives is still recovering from his daughter's wedding last weekend so you will have to forgive the 1900 date.
PghJKB
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Looks like it is complete, picked it up today and I think it is a good piece.
Any idea on the approximate year of this Parker?
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The patent date is 1930 and refers to the base locking nut and captured wrench. I guess it was made between 1930 & 1940.
Drives is still recovering from his daughter's wedding last weekend so you will have to forgive the 1900 date.
Get
You beat me to it!
That vise has the nut design of the second of two patents Parker had granted in 1930 for swivel nut wrench retention.
The first patent was granted to L.L. Turner on 10 June 1930, #1763021.
Here is the URL:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...1=1763021.PN.%26OS=pn/1763021%26RS=PN/1763021
The second patent was granted to P.H.D. Walker on 14 Oct 1930, #1778576.
Here is the URL:
http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNu...1=1778576.PN.%26OS=pn/1778576%26RS=PN/1778576
on the date range.JKB
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blsnelling
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Do you have an example?
drivesitfar
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Get & JKB: thanks for KNOWING that the patent date is 1930 on that Parker. that 9 looked like a perfect 8 and still does even with my big fonts on my laptop and my 300 power reader glasses. that said the 3 looks like a 3, but i knew 1830 wasn't going to fly. yep still recovering from the WEDDING and have had this F'n head cold for about 10 days now which adds to the aging issues.
i also thank you both for the patent stuff and information about Parker even though Parkers are not even close to one of my favorites.
S4: sorry buddy. yep don't post online until it's in your hands unless you don't care if you don't buy/own it. maybe he's just sleeping?
ALL: anybody have an idea what this vise is? sorry these are all the pictures i have and not any information about size, but guessing 3 or maybe 4 inch wide jaws.
i also thank you both for the patent stuff and information about Parker even though Parkers are not even close to one of my favorites.
S4: sorry buddy. yep don't post online until it's in your hands unless you don't care if you don't buy/own it. maybe he's just sleeping?
ALL: anybody have an idea what this vise is? sorry these are all the pictures i have and not any information about size, but guessing 3 or maybe 4 inch wide jaws.
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va.grouseman
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VISEs, fascinating stuff.---Now I want one of those baby babies.---Wonder what the metal he uses is?---Die-cast maybe?---If he said, I missed it.
drivesitfar
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ALL: speaking of hard to read Parkers how about this one that is advertised as a HARS PARKER.
since the seller is asking $250 for it and i'm not a huge Parker fan anyway i haven't sent him an email asking who HARS is.
and look a 1930 patent date you can actually read. some castings back then are interesting that is for certain.
since the seller is asking $250 for it and i'm not a huge Parker fan anyway i haven't sent him an email asking who HARS is.
and look a 1930 patent date you can actually read. some castings back then are interesting that is for certain.
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Mark in Indiana
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Drives:
Thanks for posting that Hars Parker vise. A couple of interesting things about that vise:
1. Along with the name, I've never seen a Model 954 S.
2. At first glance, I thought that the swivel base was missing. Except, there is a hole at the front (like the swivel base is sold separately). I've never seen that either.
Thanks for posting that Hars Parker vise. A couple of interesting things about that vise:
1. Along with the name, I've never seen a Model 954 S.
2. At first glance, I thought that the swivel base was missing. Except, there is a hole at the front (like the swivel base is sold separately). I've never seen that either.
jimreed2160
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Ah, yes. Hars Parker, younger brother to Charles and the black sheep of the family. He sometimes worked in the foundry where he amused himself by messing with the casting sand. A terrible accident during pouring one day left him without a right foot and gave him his nickname--HopAlong Hars.
MissileBear
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My 973 1/2 is the same way, but has a swivel base. I thought somebody here had made mention of the later Parkers having a universal swivel base?
Outlawmws
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The patent date is 1930 and refers to the base locking nut and captured wrench. I guess it was made between 1930 & 1940.
Drives is still recovering from his daughter's wedding last weekend so you will have to forgive the 1900 date.
Through 42 at least (I have catalog page) but that gets into the war years and as Parker was a War dept. supplier, probably though the war at least. Not sure when Parker may have retooled/changed models numbers/designs post war...
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va.grouseman
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Just a personal preference Drive, but I like the ones with the anomalies or mistakes, if you will.---Same holds true with stamps and coins, a mistake will make them more valuable exponentially.---Might ought to be a thread of members posting pics of their vise's casting flaws.---Could be a missing letter/number, an upside down letter/number, or misspelled word, anything.---Here's mine.
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drivesitfar
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Jim: TRUE STORY?? wow that is something i didn't know and i thought it was just supposed to be cast as CHAS or Charles and the casting was bad. HOP A LONG reminds me of my great gramps that lost his leg to a saw mill while reaching down to pick up some garbage who was called PEG for 50 years and he barely missed a few weeks of work after his leg was cut off. thanks for sharing that story if it really is in fact true which i'm guessing it is.
also for those of you that haven't seen Jim's Woodworking 101 thread he has some amazing tutorials about planes and woodworking and other members have some cool stuff to if you want to learn or maybe add to it here's the link:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344153
CA: so I understand you liking a Holland's and maybe helping G20 fix the jaws on his gave you some insight. i can't see it bumping a Reed 404 or a Wilton C1, but i'll let you tell us maybe later if it did. you have quite a few KEEPERS so you might have to get the trailer hitch mountings set up so you can swap vises on your bench easily.
nice find!!
also for those of you that haven't seen Jim's Woodworking 101 thread he has some amazing tutorials about planes and woodworking and other members have some cool stuff to if you want to learn or maybe add to it here's the link:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=344153
CA: so I understand you liking a Holland's and maybe helping G20 fix the jaws on his gave you some insight. i can't see it bumping a Reed 404 or a Wilton C1, but i'll let you tell us maybe later if it did. you have quite a few KEEPERS so you might have to get the trailer hitch mountings set up so you can swap vises on your bench easily.
nice find!!
drivesitfar
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VA: it's not hard to host or start a thread. i'll help you if you need some and gladly post up on a ODD VISE CASTINGS THREAD if you want to start one. i'm sure there are others that would love to see some more of not only yours, but some of the other collector's finds that are sitting on a shelf all over the USA and the world.
starting a thread is sort of just like posting and you can keep editing the first post as you wish. you might also reserve the second post (put in reserved and click on a post 30 seconds after you start the thread) for maybe a list of the brands of vises and page #'s to find them if you want to have sort of a directory. if you have a thread that has many pictures or a need for many information type posts like when i started the Vise Repair 101 thread a good quite time is after 11 pm PST when very few people are on so you can reserve the first few posts without other members already posting making comments or posting pictures.
sound good? Or maybe make the thread's name ODD CASTING NAMES ON VINTAGE TOOLS to maybe get a few more member's eyes and have a few more things to post.
can you imagine what a Bugatti vise with maybe only one T or spelled wrong would be worth?
starting a thread is sort of just like posting and you can keep editing the first post as you wish. you might also reserve the second post (put in reserved and click on a post 30 seconds after you start the thread) for maybe a list of the brands of vises and page #'s to find them if you want to have sort of a directory. if you have a thread that has many pictures or a need for many information type posts like when i started the Vise Repair 101 thread a good quite time is after 11 pm PST when very few people are on so you can reserve the first few posts without other members already posting making comments or posting pictures.
sound good? Or maybe make the thread's name ODD CASTING NAMES ON VINTAGE TOOLS to maybe get a few more member's eyes and have a few more things to post.
can you imagine what a Bugatti vise with maybe only one T or spelled wrong would be worth?
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Boatman53
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Here is my Parker with the casting error.
Jim
Jim
va.grouseman
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Yep, there it is, upside down.---I think that gives it character.
Drive, I've got a couple of threads on here but they always flamed out because they were subjects that really didn't interest but a select few.---I think I would just jinx a good thread.
Drive, I've got a couple of threads on here but they always flamed out because they were subjects that really didn't interest but a select few.---I think I would just jinx a good thread.
zoomieport
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Gotcha. In my book, a "unicorn" is a harder to find vise than a Reed 4C. Don't get me wrong, that is a REALLY nice vise and especially nice characteristics with replaceable jaws and all. We've seen more than a handful of the 4Cs though, so not really a "mythical creature" at least to me anymore (but MAN would I love to own one). In the end, just like "restore" that kevin brought up the other day, it's all in the eye of the beholder! Glad there are differences of opinion in the world or it sure would be a boring place
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Just in time to make me look like a fool, another on shows up!
Take care Jeff!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bench-Vise-...802089?hash=item2cbaa2f269:g:tywAAOSw3v5Yqzci
Mike
drivesitfar
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Boatman: i'm not sure if you sell all your extras, but if you still have a few hanging around you have posted many keepers so how about maybe a few family photos??
nice casting error vise too!
VA: if i start it there is no guarantee it will not FLAME OUT as you say cause i've had more than a few do so like the BROKEN VISE THREAD and a few others. so if i do start it would you maybe be willing to help me with the page that brings the vises up in various brand names sort of like we did with the vise repair 101 thread?
if you and others want a thread about flawed castings i'll be more than happy to start one. even if not a flaw the HARS vise was some good stuff and glad it brought up this other subject.
say the word and i'll start a thread later today.
cheers all
nice casting error vise too!
VA: if i start it there is no guarantee it will not FLAME OUT as you say cause i've had more than a few do so like the BROKEN VISE THREAD and a few others. so if i do start it would you maybe be willing to help me with the page that brings the vises up in various brand names sort of like we did with the vise repair 101 thread?
if you and others want a thread about flawed castings i'll be more than happy to start one. even if not a flaw the HARS vise was some good stuff and glad it brought up this other subject.
say the word and i'll start a thread later today.
cheers all
va.grouseman
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Yep Drive, I'll throw in on that.
Just in time to make me look like a fool, another on shows up!
Take care Jeff!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bench-Vise-...802089?hash=item2cbaa2f269:g:tywAAOSw3v5Yqzci
Mike
That guy posted lousy pics but it does look good.
jakemac
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A heads up for you Arizona vise guys -
A nice looking early Reed 105 is up on eBay starting at $150. Local pickup only.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-HEAVY-DUTY-REED-VICE-No-105-Blacksmithing-Other-/322430683154?hash=item4b125dc812:g:StIAAOSwUKxYmJZA
A nice looking early Reed 105 is up on eBay starting at $150. Local pickup only.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-HEAVY-DUTY-REED-VICE-No-105-Blacksmithing-Other-/322430683154?hash=item4b125dc812:g:StIAAOSwUKxYmJZA
