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I feel like Snap on kinda ripped me off on this set.

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Ok so I was working on a 2000 VW Jetta, and I needed a tapmer proof torx plus for the Mass Air Sensor. So I call my Snap on and he dosent have any on the truck so I say order it up, total comes to the tune of $285.65, I have no problem with that, untill I get a call from a friend who I had called while in the middle of the job. (called him looking for the bit!) he tells me he just purchased the set from MAC for $60.99.....there both 11 pieces and the MAC one seams high quality, Im just trying to fire out why the Snap on set is so much more, and to boot the MAC one came in a nice case. I dont buy MAC tools never have Im a Snap on guy and I dont usually ***** but this just seams a bit pricy!

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...group_ID=19384&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog'

http://www.mactools.com/Product/tabid/120/productid/327687/variantid/318446/Default.aspx
 
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according to the guys ive worked with the snapon ones are "near indestructible" i dont know if its true...but it may explain in part why its so expensive

i HATE buying tools in crisis midjob...especially when i have your apparent luck and find it cheaper only after i bought it at top price
 
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Why did you need it anyway? The MAF comes with the housing anyway. I paid about $25 for my cheap set, they work just fine.

This is why we call them Strap-on, because everytime you buy something, it feels like you're getting f**ked. :lol:
 
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I'd be pissed too. Send em' back. Unless there is some huge difference that I'm unaware of.

I;m not sure but if Wright makes them you will likely get a great tool at a reasonable price. Made in US too.
 
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Well, the MAC set doesn't seem to be USA, but the short answer is SO is always unduly expensive because people will pay it...

Hopefully that will change now that they are indisputably moving offshore.
 
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They're worth it imo.. espically for brake jobs and stuff. I have never had a problem with a snapon one.. I've had lisle/evolve round alot of stuff off.

Espically hex socket.. i'll be ordering those too
 
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Kinda like this $90 air gauge I needed for dually wheels. I order it and it says "made in China" on the back. I could have bought one at HF if I wanted a chi com air gauge. Stupid..
 
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Tamperproof Torx plus is different than tamperproof Torx. The Blue Point and Cornwell sets don't include any Torx plus tools.
 
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Two different sets,different applications.Different country of origin.The Mac ones are the same as you'll get at Harbor Freight.Made in China somewhere.Not saying the Snap on's are worth the money but at least you know where they're from.Personally I buy Snap on over mac anytime but I usually buy used if possible.I stopped buying from my Mac guy years ago when i noticed most of their stuff was imported from china.
 
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I stopped buying from Mac when they went 5 years without a dealer in my area. That warranty isn't worth a thing if there's no one around to honor it.
 
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i say to hell with both the mac and snap on, get the cornwell 62 piece set. that is one badass deal when it goes on sale.

http://www.cornwelltools.com/webcat/products.php?product=CBSMTH62S-%252d-62-Piece-1{47}4%22%2C-3{47}8%22%2C-and-1{47}2%22-Drive-Master-Deluxe-Star-%26-Hex-Bit-Set#
 
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fordbroncodave said:
i say to hell with both the mac and snap on, get the cornwell 62 piece set. that is one badass deal when it goes on sale.

http://www.cornwelltools.com/webcat/products.php?product=CBSMTH62S-%252d-62-Piece-1{47}4%22%2C-3{47}8%22%2C-and-1{47}2%22-Drive-Master-Deluxe-Star-%26-Hex-Bit-Set#
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I did not see torx plus in that set. Torx plus is different than regular torx.
 
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What information is there about this?
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A couple of years ago we were discussing whether the SO "hard line" - wrenches, sockets, ratchets, etc. - would remain "Made in USA". The prevailing view at the time was that they would because doing otherwise would amount to shooting themselves in the foot. Posters said that if offshore production would ever become the case, they would never buy SO again.

Now there is no doubt that SO manufactures some of their core line in China and I hope those posters stand by their convictions.

This is a company that for years extolled their own virtue as a "USA or bust" organization and built a loyal following because of it. They charged "super-premium" (Economics term) prices because of it. And now, they own Chinese production facilities and even their most basic products are made overseas.

Now don't get me wrong; I'm not a USA-or-nothing kind of guy. I appreciate USA tools and most of my tools are USA-made, but that's just because I want a quality tool and USA-made products have historically been of high quality. But my upbringing and experience has exposed me to tools from many different countries and the USA is/was not alone in its ability to manufacture excellent products. German & Japanese tools are superb and anyone thinking otherwise is fooling themselves. Sweden, the UK, and other European countries have similar long-standing traditions of the toolmaker's art.

I still have options, but what pisses me off - and I mean really pisses me off - is a company that wraps itself in a flag and then has the audacity to sell out while doing their level best to conceal the fact. I just can't stomach the hypocrisy.

Look at today's post on Stiletto Tools. Disgusting. I hope they go out of business.
 
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DynoDale said:
Tamperproof Torx plus is different than tamperproof Torx. The Blue Point and Cornwell sets don't include any Torx plus tools.
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:willy_nil: I read right over that all important "plus" yeah that presents a problem I know I ve run across afew of the plus's though and just used a regular torx bit
 
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Cornwell does sell a torx plus set, but I dont know if they have tamper proof torx plus.
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Yeah, they have them............

The Snap-on 5 lobe, tamper proof plus are made in the USA, to my knowledge, the MAC ones, and Cornwell are Taiwan imports. Also I noticed the MAC and Cornwell ones say "star" bits...........means they are not registered with camcar int. who holds the patent.

This is a prime example of Snap-on offering a USA product that is of course more expensive then an import, and we are complaining it does not seem like a good deal? :headscrat............
 
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Here's my regular Torx. I don't feel like I was ripped off at all; especially since I forgot what I paid for them. :D

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Blwnsln said:
Im just trying to fire out why the Snap on set is so much more,

Because they have the words "Snap On" stamped on them, There is No Argument that they Do make a quality tool and they have a Very Devoted customer base that will pay the high price's. Therefore they can charge higher price's. The guy with the expensive truck and the very expensive inventory who conveniantly comes to you. He has to make a living. I don't know how they get paid for there service but the $$ for his paycheck has to come from somewhere
In my opinion it is simple supply and demand. If you want it (and people do) you will pay it (and people do)
Alot like Kubota tractors. They make a quality tractor and they typically sell for a higher price then some of the other big brands. Why ?
If you want it (and people do) you will pay it (and people do)
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Well I will say that I now feel better, knowing that I didnt buy the MAC ones made in China, Im a blue coller middle class guy, and knowing that by buying something made in America, Im not only helping this country but helping someone in it put food on there table is well worth it to me.

I think some guys are getting confused on what set this is, its like a torx but has 5 sides instead of 6, it also has a hole in the middle to make it tamper proof.
 
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Blwnsln said:
Well I will say that I now feel better, knowing that I didnt buy the MAC ones made in China, Im a blue coller middle class guy, and knowing that by buying something made in America, Im not only helping this country but helping someone in it put food on there table is well worth it to me.

I think some guys are getting confused on what set this is, its like a torx but has 5 sides instead of 6, it also has a hole in the middle to make it tamper proof.
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In the event you do feel buyer's remorse, i might take them off your hands some time. :)
 
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Moose-LandTran said:
In the event you do feel buyer's remorse, i might take them off your hands some time. :)
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Lol....Im just glad there are people on this board who remind me why I do the things I do.....I would have spent $400 if I had rembered the fact that they were made in America, and that MAC ones are China junk. It just gives me a good feeling to know Im putting money back into this country. My dealer also has a new born child and a 2 year old, I like helping him out and he always goes the extra mile for me. I glad you guys reasured me why I do buy Snap on. Now lets all go have an American brew!:beer::beer::beer:

prefrebly Sam Adams lol, there a good customer of mine!
 
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I would prefer a Yuengling myself, but to each there own. Now if they sold Yuengling in this part of the country I would be happy.
 
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Blwnsln said:
total comes to the tune of $285.65, I have no problem with that,
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Well, that makes one of us.

As they say, "You can't **** the willing". For whatever reason, you willingly paid $285.65 for something that most people pay much less for. You can't blame Snap-On for charging you $285.65, you have only yourself to blame for "drinking their Kool-Aid".
 
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You were robbed!
Those damn cheap bits...you need them normally only for VAG MAF sensors...just buy a 20$ set from Genius or KLANN...VAG does not use Snap-on...
 
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I forget the other use i knew before, but BMWs use them on the variable cam gears on Valvetronic engines.
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They use them for CD auto-changer mounts in BMWs. Pretty handy for swapping out the drives in Seagate external enclosures, too.

I promise I'll buy something made in Europe or the US with the $270 price difference.
 
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Yeah, they have them............

The Snap-on 5 lobe, tamper proof plus are made in the USA, to my knowledge, the MAC ones, and Cornwell are Taiwan imports. Also I noticed the MAC and Cornwell ones say "star" bits...........means they are not registered with camcar int. who holds the patent.

This is a prime example of Snap-on offering a USA product that is of course more expensive then an import, and we are complaining it does not seem like a good deal? :headscrat............
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+1. I have the Cornwell regular torx and they are imports. They're fine for me as a DYI, but if I was a pro, I'd buy the Snap-ons at the higher price point.
 
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