The VISES of Garage Journal

[thederbyengineer]

HOLY F-BALLS, Kevin!!!

Then again, I don't have vises I don't use. Doing otherwise would be like dating Jessica Alba and sleeping on the couch.

Isn't quoting yourself kind of a cliché , one of those "I am very smart" kinda deals

 

[chrisnazzy]

Oh man.....I want a KMScott custom swivel jewelers vise. A little out of character for me but I'm a little lost for words to describe how cool those are. Amazing craftsmanship Kevin.

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[va.grouseman]

KM, those could be used as Chess pieces.---Between you and Zoomie, yaw could fill the board.

 

[KMScott]

Thanks guys, here are a few more pic's.

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Wrapped up 2 months of spare time restorations/builds when I finished these four vises. I have a dozen or so of clamp-on vises and wanted to have some fun and removed the clamp on and replace them with Parker copy swivel bases. I might have the smallest one ever made for the Athol #4 vise. Less then 1-1/2" jaws width on the smallest and 2-1/2 on the largest 765 Stanley. Went through everything and tightened them u the best I could, Stanly makes a different type of shim where the spindle handle rotates on steel instead of cast. I remade them in Bronze to tighten up the backlash. Each vise was time consuming, it is easier to restore a 4" vise. Replaced the jaw faces with serrated and smooth jaws. New handles and tightened up the nut to help with backlash. Built the wrenches and lock assembly. I sure like the lock down brake pad setup, fairly easy to make and works so good. I hope you enjoy.

That is fantastic i love the Parker swivel base design.

 

[trijeff]

Isn't quoting yourself kind of a cliché , one of those "I am very smart" kinda deals

It's a signature you dumb@$$, one of those YOU aren't very smart kinda deals

Then again, I don't have vises I don't use. Doing otherwise would be like dating Jessica Alba and sleeping on the couch.

 

[va.grouseman]

Here's a real sweat little 3'' long Parkinson Perfect Salesman Sample with working quick release.---I would pull the trigger but the price exceeds my annual small vise budget by $20.00---Just my luck.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Salesmans-...638797?hash=item1a3c0d104d:g:jP8AAOSw5dlaKHkU

 

[Outlawmws]

KM, those could be used as Chess pieces.---Between you and Zoomie, yaw could fill the board.

So the "common" baby Wiltons would be pawns?

 

[Rileysan]

Here's a real sweat little 3'' long Parkinson Perfect Salesman Sample with working quick release.---I would pull the trigger but the price exceeds my annual small vise budget by $20.00---Just my luck.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Salesmans-...638797?hash=item1a3c0d104d:g:jP8AAOSw5dlaKHkU

Good lord, that is cool. Expensive, but cool!

Brian

 

[CrotalusAtrox]

Here's a real sweat little 3'' long Parkinson Perfect Salesman Sample with working quick release.---I would pull the trigger but the price exceeds my annual small vise budget by $20.00---Just my luck.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Salesmans-...638797?hash=item1a3c0d104d:g:jP8AAOSw5dlaKHkU

I believe the legalization of marijuana has taken hold. 5200+ really

 

[va.grouseman]

So the "common" baby Wiltons would be pawns?

That sounds about right Outlaw.

 

[Bcom]

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE IN GARAGE JOURNAL!!!o

I expect you guys to have the underside of my tree filled with vises on Christmas day

 

[GETRIDAONE]

Kevin's mini vises would make a mighty fine stocking stuffer

 

[Bcom]

Kevin's mini vises would make a mighty fine stocking stuffer

Kevins mini vises? I must not have seen these yet. Best put them under my tree so i can have a peek.

 

[rick carpenter]

Among the tools I got from my Dad at Thanksgiving which were his grandfather Samuel Blueford Carpenter's, who was a real carpenter around the Galveston Bay area, was this 1" spring jaw opener vise with "Pat Pend". It evidently was used as one of the mounting wings was broken off, which leads to the possibility that it may have been his father-in-law Christian Andreas Frenzel's (German immigrant to Texas) vise who later in life did gun and watch repair.

I apologize in advance for any vise envy I may have caused...

 

[jonshonda]

This Oswego #3 is local to me and interesting. I cannot find much info on it and this is the only pic posted. Seller says it weights 100lbs. Are the pipe jaws easily removed?

 

[drivesitfar]

JON: not sure if those pipe jaws are easily removed because they are usually MIA (Missing in action), but guessing they are easy. since that is an early 1900's swivel base you'd need to adjust the swivel from under your bench and it's missing a plate. not the easiest vise to use, but if the jaws are ok it might be worth buying as a collectible.

those Parker 954's the other members offered would be a much better bench vise depending on how much they want for them or keep looking if you just want a solid bench vise to use.

Rick: cute little vise and good story

 

[jonshonda]

Thanks for the info drivesitfar, it is an interesting vise to say the least. I do really want a swivel vise. The vise others have offered are Starrett 924's. I've read people prefer the Athol, but not clear why.

 

[trijeff]

The tight tolerances on the Athol are really hard to beat. Hands down against a union Parker.

Then again, I don't have vises I don't use. Doing otherwise would be like dating Jessica Alba and sleeping on the couch.

 

[drivesitfar]

JON: hard to beat a STARRETT 924 as a USER so if in your price range and not welded or beat up and working like it can that might be the one i'd buy too.

good luck and keep asking questions if you have any and/or post pictures of possible purchase or after its sitting on your workbench.

 

[Outlawmws]

Kevins mini vises? I must not have seen these yet. Best put them under my tree so i can have a peek.

Just scan back a few posts... (Sleeping on the job again I see...)

 

[gman007]

The tight tolerances on the Athol are really hard to beat. Hands down against a union Parker.

Then again, I don't have vises I don't use. Doing otherwise would be like dating Jessica Alba and sleeping on the couch.

Jeff
How about older pre Union CPs?
007

 

[Outlawmws]

This Oswego #3 is local to me and interesting. I cannot find much info on it and this is the only pic posted. Seller says it weights 100lbs. Are the pipe jaws easily removed?

Based on how many pipe jaws are MIA, not had at all/ simple pin or through bolt is all they have, and the jaw floats on that a bit so the pin is not taking the pressure.

 

[Outlawmws]

Jeff
How about older pre Union CPs?
007

Athol's, Starret's, and Reeds are all typically tight. Parkers, even the older ones not so much, but are still not bad. This may vary from model to model however. Parker made so many different models...

I'd love to see (or even have, given unlimited space/resources) a complete collection of Parkers. It would fill a museum...

A friend that started to get into Parkers said he'd like to "get them all"... I laughed. he had no clue...

 

[davethorik]

A lot of these vises may have had a lot tighter fit when new, then add decades of abuse by hamfisted individuals...

 

[Outlawmws]

A lot of these vises may have had a lot tighter fit when new, then add decades of abuse by hamfisted individuals...

This is true.

 

[va.grouseman]

Jonshonda, If you do get the Oswego and remove the P jaws, do yourself a favor and consciously and carefully pack them away where they won't get lost in the chaos.---Sooner or later you are going to want to put them back in as I'm sure hundreds of other fellows wanted to do.---Twas not to be.


I have the #87 and I really like the Oswego's but mine isn't nearly as big as the #3.---I still need a spanner wrench and they are scarcer than pipe jaws.

 

[gman007]

Athol's, Starret's, and Reeds are all typically tight. Parkers, even the older ones not so much, but are still not bad. This may vary from model to model however. Parker made so many different models...

I'd love to see (or even have, given unlimited space/resources) a complete collection of Parkers. It would fill a museum...

A friend that started to get into Parkers said he'd like to "get them all"... I laughed. he had no clue...

I do not have an Athol so can not judge or measure the tolerances of an Athol but I have three old CPs and I have hard time pushing a paper between the slide and housing and frankly any tighter the slide would cease!

 

[gman007]

Jonshonda, If you do get the Oswego and remove the P jaws, do yourself a favor and consciously and carefully pack them away where they won't get lost in the chaos.---Sooner or later you are going to want to put them back in as I'm sure hundreds of other fellows wanted to do.---Twas not to be.


I have the #87 and I really like the Oswego's but mine isn't nearly as big as the #3.---I still need a spanner wrench and they are scarcer than pipe jaws.

Man this is one good looking vise!

 

[chrisnazzy]

Jonshonda, If you do get the Oswego and remove the P jaws, do yourself a favor and consciously and carefully pack them away where they won't get lost in the chaos.---Sooner or later you are going to want to put them back in as I'm sure hundreds of other fellows wanted to do.---Twas not to be.


I have the #87 and I really like the Oswego's but mine isn't nearly as big as the #3.---I still need a spanner wrench and they are scarcer than pipe jaws.

VA: I'm glad you posted pics of your pipe jawed Oswego. I'm working on a Parker 433 1/2 and I want to remove the pipe jaws to refinish the rest of the vise. I can tell after carefully prying the hammered over pin straight I'm going to have to grind it down a bit to get it out. They just aren't going to be useable again and I've been thinking about what to use instead. I had the thought of getting some proper length grade 8 bolts and cap nuts. Looks like that worked like a charm for you.

Anybody else have pics of a combo vise with retrofitted through pins holding the pipe jaws?

Chris

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[KMScott]

VA: I'm glad you posted pics of your pipe jawed Oswego. I'm working on a Parker 433 1/2 and I want to remove the pipe jaws to refinish the rest of the vise. I can tell after carefully prying the hammered over pin straight I'm going to have to grind it down a bit to get it out. They just aren't going to be useable again and I've been thinking about what to use instead. I had the thought of getting some proper length grade 8 bolts and cap nuts. Looks like that worked like a charm for you.
Anybody else have pics of a combo vise with retrofitted through pins holding the pipe jaws?
Chris

I have made a couple in my day. Buy some round stock the correct size at your local hardware store and heat up one end and forge a cap and spin it in a drill press and using a file work the inside of the head flat. Drill for a small clip or washer and cotter key at the other end. Like Outlaw mentioned the pin should be pretty loose in in the pipe jaws so they can find center when clamping on a pipe. Good luck.

 

[Loydski29]

Picked up a reed 107 on Friday it’s in very good shape compared to the other one I have! unfortunately the main screw nut is stripped out so now I need to track one of those down! But overall I’m happy with it!

 

[BeardedOne]

Merry Christmas vise collectors

In the last couple weeks I started reading through this thread and seeing 8 years worth of posts is pretty impressive.

There are absolutely some wonderful people here and are very inspirational with their craft and expertise, and I think it's good to be able to say what we're thankful for during the Christmas celebration.

Even though I don't have a collection like most of us here, I am glad to be able to learn, and to have a wonderful wife who encourages me when I want to learn new things. I'm a little under the weather at this moment, but it is a blessing to be able to write this from the position a recliner affords.

Creative juices are already bringing ideas to mind, and mostly because of the excellent vision and creativity people like royce have displayed.

Hopefully 2018 becomes the year I get to bring some of my ideas to fruition, and hopefully show them here and other places.

With all that said, Merry Christmas everybody.

And God bless you.

 

[Shiftless]

Thanks for the kind words and good wishes, bearded one.

Loydski:
Nice score. That is indeed a rare model. Too bad about the stripped main nut. What are your plans from here with that vise? I know you have welding skills. Is precision machining another of your talents?

 

[akasrick]

I expect you guys to have the underside of my tree filled with vises on Christmas day

This ones not making it under that tree.

With 3 1/2" jaws, opening to 2 1/2", weighing in at 17lbs. as it sits, it is no 'Charley Brown'. Still plenty of meat on it if their father wants to take it down.

Merry Christmas to you and your's ...all.

akasrick

 

[cretedog]

Merry Christmas to all from Danny Joe & I. I hope you're all able to enjoy good time with family and friends- and- perhaps- might find something hard and heavy under your trees . Best Regards, JM

 

[drivesitfar]

Lyodski: nice that you found a huge Reed for your Christmas present!! Oregon Rock Crusher just made a vise nut for his big (170-180 pound) Wilton that American Scale probably made for them back in the late 50's or early 60's. anyway ORC showed how he made that new vise nut in the Vise Repair 101 thread maybe in October or early November and if you can't find it just post pictures of your REED 107 over on that thread and maybe someone else might help you find those posts or maybe has another idea on how to make one.

Crete: you don't post often, but having that HUGE PARKER being used as something for your son to ride is a classic picture.

ALL: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY

 

[gman007]

Merry Christmas to all from Danny Joe & I. I hope you're all able to enjoy good time with family and friends- and- perhaps- might find something hard and heavy under your trees . Best Regards, JM

JM
Merry Christmas to you and your family as well. Thank you for posting the photos of these stunning vises.

So is this the FAMOUS CP 978 that is in the Google images library? Some time back when I had just joined GJ and was searching the net for neat and impressive vises, I came up on these photos and when I posted them here to see if anyone knows who owns this CP 978, if I remember correctly Drivers knew and unless I am confusing this with another vise, he said this was shipped across the county and not surprising the replacement jaws were made by Reverend Scott.

All
Merry Christmas and God Bless
007

 

[drivesitfar]

007: you've got most of your information correct because that's CRETE'S Parker 978 (not sure if that's the #, but it is an 8 inch wide jaw) and CRETE drove from South Dakota to Tuscon, Arizona to pick that vise up so he was the SHIPPING PERSON. it came with that cool stand too. that other vise he's showing looks like maybe 150 pound Vanderman #3 that might be one of the nicest and best built open screw vise made.

ALL: it is a WHITE CHRISTMAS here in the PNW today cause it snowed about 4 inches last night so hope you all stay warm and cozy and safe and enjoy your day.

 

[Firewire]

Merry Christmas to all from Danny Joe & I. I hope you're all able to enjoy good time with family and friends- and- perhaps- might find something hard and heavy under your trees . Best Regards, JM

NICE! The kids really put in perspective the size! I like all the stands each is on as well!