hitthewall79
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Why would you tell him it swiveled? Now he knows it's worth something lol
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Heh, yeah I thought about that afterward.
Fretters
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He obviously hasn't upped his price due to the info.
On a side note: If you see something you like, bartering when something is already a decent price has a bad habit of you finding that someone else bought it whilst you were faffing about haggling. Saving a few bob is always nice, but losing something to try & save a few bob isn't.
That Hydraulic Wilton was $1999.00 a year ago.---It's on a half price sale.
I am totally unfamiliar with Wilton’s let alone a HYDRAULIC one. Would someone like to provide a brief summary or provide a link?
gman007
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On one of the rare occasions where I bought a vise with paint (from online auction), I had a close call.
Last summer, I had to pickup the vise on same day as my son's high school graduation party. I made some lame excuse to my wife and bolted for a one hour drive up north to Grand Rapids, MI and then got stuck in summer construction traffic. Long story short I was sweating bullets and anxious to get back quickly (and face the firing squad) so I did a cursory inspection and grabbed the vise and dashed back.
The next day when I was checking the vise, on one side I noticed what appeared like a small weld job under the paint where dynamic jaw meets the slide bar and my heart sank. I then quickly scraped the paint off and luckily it turned out to be just a thick paint over spray. In the photo you can see where I scraped the paint off
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It's a hydraulically operated vice, hence its unusually long length. The rear portion is the hydraulic portion. I believe the hydraulic pump is usually controlled by a foot switch.
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Fretters
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Those moments where you're expecting the worst are no fun, are they.
I remember having a similar feeling when the first Victorian Parkinson turned up. The handle was merrily protruding from the side of the box, and I barely dared open the box to see how the rest had fared. Fretters
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That one has a handle, so I'm guessing you can open & close that one both manually or hydraulically. There's a diagram of one knocking about on here somewhere.
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Im working on the old crusty craftsman model 5176 vise. I have been looking around on google and ebay and can't find any diagrams or info that tell me what size screws hold the collar in. there's a pic of them, but I have no ideas what they are size/thread wise. Anyone have any idea so I can clean up the threads then get the right screws? Heres pics of what it came with, mine is missing the screws.
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Thanks Fretters.
The Wilton is quite a bit more robust than my 5 ton Posi Lock (serial number 002) hydraulic vise. Not certain the manufacturer of the vise body, but perhaps someone here will recognize the design. Posi Lock extended the slide length and fabbed up mounts for the ram.
I'm not a fan of swivel bases so I removed mine before mounting. Plus the vise couldn't really swivel far with the hydraulic hose connection hitting the edge of the bench in the retracted position.
Here's a pic of it utilizing magnetic jaw protectors holding impact sockets to push out u joint crosses without needing 3 hands.
It utilizes an air over hydraulic foot actuated pump.
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Tomorrow, everything gets a clear coat and details and then both of my Columbians are done!
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This little 2 1/2" Miller Falls value line (cheap) vise was fun to restore. I had to make a new spindle handle and a cup washer for the mounting screw. The label couldn't be saved so I made a similar one. I thought the swivel base on the economy line vise is a nice feature.
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Tomorrow, everything gets a clear coat and details and then both of my Columbians are done!
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Best not to paint the main screw. Acetone and a wire brush will remove that spray paint from the handle, the jaws, and slide as well. Wear eye protection and work in fresh air.
There are other techniques...check with the vise restoration thread.
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Yup, that was the plan, I was just feeling lazy and didn't want to tape everything off. I use air tools, so removing everything will take like 2 seconds
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Hitthewall, This is how I prepared my Columbian's for paint. Getting a good paint job starts with clean oil free metal and a great tape job. Anything that is machined on a vise gets taped.
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That's a lot of taping, lol, but good for you, it turned out good
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Kmscott, how did you get your lettering so neat? I tried to do mine and failed miserably, had to have the girlfriend do it...
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Thank you for posting those before pics! I can really appreciate the time you take to carefully prep them. It is nice to see that middle step in action!
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I am not a drinking man so my 62 year old hands are still steady. I use a little brush like you used when painting models when you was a kid and only have four strands of bristle that holds enough paint to do one letter. Get real comfortable and in 10 minutes you are done.
I am restoring five Yorks right now and the first stages are done differently by everyone. I prefer stripper and a wire hand brush to get the heavy stuff off then use a wire wheel on my dremal and 4-1/2 angle grinder then finish up with a hook and loop Scotch Brite pads for the finish and flash removal. Clean everything with lacquer thinner and ready for taping.
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Rileysan
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This is my first bench vise post of 2018. I have been busy moving and organizing my shop. In the mean time, I haven't been idle. I picked up these two Athol vises from two different pawn shops.
The first, an Athol 614 1/2 (4 1/2") was at my favorite pawn shop for months, priced at $99. I finally made an offer a few weeks ago and got it for $75
The second vise is an Athol 623 1/2 X (3 1/2") with the original pipe jaws! It was listed on OfferUp by a pawn shop I had never visited. I paid the asking price of $50
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The first, an Athol 614 1/2 (4 1/2") was at my favorite pawn shop for months, priced at $99. I finally made an offer a few weeks ago and got it for $75
The second vise is an Athol 623 1/2 X (3 1/2") with the original pipe jaws! It was listed on OfferUp by a pawn shop I had never visited. I paid the asking price of $50
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So I didn't even think of that... Do you find a lot of bench vises in pawn shops, or was that a luck of the draw kind of thing?This is my first bench vise post of 2018. I have been busy moving and organizing my shop. In the mean time, I haven't been idle. I picked up these two Athol vises from two different pawn shops.
The first, an Athol 614 1/2 (4 1/2") was at my favorite pawn shop for months, priced at $99. I finally made an offer a few weeks ago and got it for $75
The second vise is an Athol 623 1/2 X (3 1/2") with the original pipe jaws! It was listed on OfferUp by a pawn shop I had never visited. I paid the asking price of $50
Brian
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Lis2323, here's a Hydraulic Wilton I picked a couple of years back for $225.00 and shipping.---Probably couldn't get that kind of deal today.---It came with the squatty pump and hoses, but I bought the taller pump and foot petal off of EBay separately.---My thinking is that the hydraulics closes on an item to be held and the handle tightens down on it.---Instead of a quick release, it's a quick close, and maybe quick open to, I don't know.---That is just a guess as I have not hooked mine up yet.---Someone else can clarify.
Oh, you need to pull up EBay and type in Wilton vise just to see all the offerings.
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Gman007---- I havent seen any of your work in awhile. I always enjoyed seeing what your working on. Come on! Get with it!
Boom I am sure in Ohio you are enjoying the same wonderful single digits (and even below zero) temperatures that we are having in Michigan. So like a good bear my vise activity is in winter hibernation and will not wake up until at least May
Mounted on 6" drill pipe and welded to a semi wheel so it can be rolled around.
Hangers for angle grinder and sawzall. Only issue is
when cutting, filing the dust gets into the power tools hung underneath. Also BFH holder is a section of exhaust collector. 
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Hangers for angle grinder and sawzall. Only issue is
when cutting, filing the dust gets into the power tools hung underneath. Also BFH holder is a section of exhaust collector. Jim
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Just picked up this Columbian 206 M2, YOST 34C and another smaller Columbian from drivesitfar, a good man and new friend! These are the first large/quality vises I've owned, and happy to have them! Now I have to decide what prep method, and final finish to apply to these bad boys! One will get mounted to my platen table on a custom mount, and the other will go on my solid surface table that's made from a barge deck hatch. I love this stuff.... Thanks drivesitfar!!!
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It's mostly luck of the draw. However, I found one pawn shop that specializes in tool sales and they always have vises. I bought the Athol 614 1/2 (and a couple others in the past) from that store. I think it's worth checking out your local pawn shops.
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Mounted on 6" drill pipe and welded to a semi wheel so it can be rolled around.
Hangers for angle grinder and sawzall. Only issue is
Jim
Copy That is a very neat stand
Outlawmws
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CopyM the grinder probably won't collect much at that angle; for the sawzall, put a rag through the grip hole and that should keep most if not all of the dust out.
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Krucks Welcome to the vise addicts group and may your vises multiply 100 fold (well it will happen sooner than you think)
. And you are lucky that you live close to Drives as he is a first class gentleman.BTW, I followed the link to your "Shop Build " thread
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339303&highlight=40x60+washington
and it is pretty interesting and impressive and you did a great job building it.
Congrats on the shop and two new nice vises
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GET That is a first class restore and that spindle handle turned out fantastic, honestly it looks OEM if not better, great job
KMScott
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GET, that Miller Falls came out nice. are you making your own decals now. Your handles like 007 mentioned are top notch.
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Rag If someone here can not help you, I suggest taking the dynamic jaw part to a big box store or places like TS as they have for lack of better term what I will call the "Screw test board" that you can use to determine the size/thread of the screw. Luckily 5176 is not that big, I have hauled much bigger vises to such places and may be looked a bit stupid in doing so but found the right screws, so who cares
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Krucks: great to finally meet you in person and happy those BIG UNS found another good home. i know you got your workout just carrying them to your awesome bench and that is SOME BENCH.
stripping them and putting on BLO or your favorite paint will really test your arms cause at about 150 pounds each even half of them weighs a lot.
thanks again and hope to see you again soon maybe at your place so i can see that 3500 pound platen table in person that you have your vises sitting on at the moment. don't give away your Chinese Wonder vise cause i bet that will still be working well for you for many years to come too.
007: great tip on taking the dynamic jaw especially on a smaller vise like Rag's owns to the hardware store. our ACE HARDWARE might have a better nut and bolt section than Drivesitfar's Hardware so that would be my first choice.
Riley: it's been years (maybe 35) since i've been in a PAWN SHOP, but if you can find Athol vises there i might start stopping. nice looking duo to add to your growing vise family.
GET: nice work on the little clamp on and great job with the new decal!!
stripping them and putting on BLO or your favorite paint will really test your arms cause at about 150 pounds each even half of them weighs a lot.
thanks again and hope to see you again soon maybe at your place so i can see that 3500 pound platen table in person that you have your vises sitting on at the moment. don't give away your Chinese Wonder vise cause i bet that will still be working well for you for many years to come too.
007: great tip on taking the dynamic jaw especially on a smaller vise like Rag's owns to the hardware store. our ACE HARDWARE might have a better nut and bolt section than Drivesitfar's Hardware so that would be my first choice.
Riley: it's been years (maybe 35) since i've been in a PAWN SHOP, but if you can find Athol vises there i might start stopping. nice looking duo to add to your growing vise family.
GET: nice work on the little clamp on and great job with the new decal!!
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gman & Kevin Thank You
It was a bit tedious threading those 8-32 balls on there, not perfect but close enough. I found a catalog on tool archives for the decal and made the smallest print I could. I had to trim it with scissors as best I could. It is about 3/16" larger each way than the original.
It was a bit tedious threading those 8-32 balls on there, not perfect but close enough. I found a catalog on tool archives for the decal and made the smallest print I could. I had to trim it with scissors as best I could. It is about 3/16" larger each way than the original.
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Has anybody made a stand to display their collection of clamp on vises?
I used to just clamp them on to the front edge of a shelf but it occurred to me that a separate stand that could hold half a dozen or so of the nicer ones would look more organized. Right now, like a few of the other guys here, they are in a heap over in the corner.
Am I just overthinking this? I have fallen into that trap before.
Pictures and other suggestions will be appreciated.
I used to just clamp them on to the front edge of a shelf but it occurred to me that a separate stand that could hold half a dozen or so of the nicer ones would look more organized. Right now, like a few of the other guys here, they are in a heap over in the corner.
Am I just overthinking this? I have fallen into that trap before.
Pictures and other suggestions will be appreciated.
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drivesitfar
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Shift: i've seen many many members clamp those little vises to any shelf in their shop if they are just for display if that helps, but i'm sure you can make a nice stand even out of wood if you are not a welder.
also in case you might want to not feel alone all mine are in crates, boxes and stuffed everywhere and I couldn't tell you if i own just 5 or maybe 50 of them at the moment.
a smaller version of this big vise stand to sit on your bench or maybe a sort of STEAMPUNK idea using old pipe and clamping the little vises all around it and mount it on a bench or even off a ceiling?
also in case you might want to not feel alone all mine are in crates, boxes and stuffed everywhere and I couldn't tell you if i own just 5 or maybe 50 of them at the moment.
a smaller version of this big vise stand to sit on your bench or maybe a sort of STEAMPUNK idea using old pipe and clamping the little vises all around it and mount it on a bench or even off a ceiling?
