The VINTAGE toolboxes of Garage Journal!

[Oldtuleguy]

1923? Or so. Nice stuff!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Thanks guys, yes that is an overstrike. When did they quit using those?

Hello! I am not very familiar with vintage snapon but I know there is a vintage snap on thread inside the vintage tool section. The guys there should really be able to identify your box and the tools in them!


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[rpm12065]

If anybody is interested, I started a new group on Facebook for Vintage Tool Chests / Boxes - if you would like to join - search groups Vintage Tool Boxes - Restore / Buy / Sell / Trade

 

[Oldtuleguy]

If anyone would know probably snapmom

 

[Outlawmws]

You will never catch me on Facebook.

 

[Rileysan]

You will never catch me on Facebook.

Of course not. An outlaw can only remain so by protecting his anonymity!

 

[Smokeshow69]

My friend got this for me on nextdoor and I've tried to find replacement parts for it. The bottom cabinet (65039) is missing a drawer and a wheel (A-5549). The top box (65282) is also missing a drawer. In addition, I'm missing the keys to both pieces. I've tried for a few weeks to find replacement parts for these cabinets, but I can't seem to find any. Was hoping you guys had some leads! Thanks in advance.

There are some drawers for sale right now on eBay. They are spray bombed red but they do not come up for sale very often at all.

Item # 192754167081

If you search vintage craftsman tool box they will come up


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[drivesitfar]

ALL: GJ is my FACEBOOK and maybe why I've got more than a few posts here cause i've never signed up for FB, or TWITTER, or Snapchat or any of that stuff so if i'm missing something I guess I am.

I need to remove some old SHARPIE type writing on one of my old hand carry toolboxes and wondering if just rubbing it with some Simple Green is the best bet? or if I soak a paper towell with SG and leave it on will that do ok without taking off the original paint? GUNK BE GONE or do tell your favorite other than stripping and rapainting?

cheers

 

[MShaw]

I believe alcohol will do the job.

 

[drivesitfar]

Shaw: Gin or Vodka or is Tequilla best?

I might have some old rum too cause since we don't drink much or at all lately I probably have more of that laying around than rubbing alcohol.

seriously thank you!!

on a rag or using steel wool or what's the best way to apply it?

 

[Farmer J.]

Shaw: Gin or Vodka or is Tequilla best?

I might have some old rum too cause since we don't drink much or at all lately I probably have more of that laying around than rubbing alcohol.

seriously thank you!!

on a rag or using steel wool or what's the best way to apply it?

I suppose if you were to drink enough of any of those you wouldn't worry about the writing on the box, or even be able to see it..!

Please let us know how you get on Drives, as I have tried to remove sharpie pen from paintwork using brake cleaner on a rag, and it always seems to leave a stain.

 

[smokeyburb]

ALL:

I need to remove some old SHARPIE type writing on one of my old hand carry toolboxes and wondering if just rubbing it with some Simple Green is the best bet? or if I soak a paper towell with SG and leave it on will that do ok without taking off the original paint? GUNK BE GONE or do tell your favorite other than stripping and rapainting?

cheers

My wife taught me that old school hair spray or nail polish remover (acetone based) both work pretty good.

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[tombell572]

Drives, I would start with the mildest first if the underlying finish is to be preserved. Simple Green wipe (be careful of soaking with S/G for any length of time-I've heard it can damage paint), if no-go, then wipe with Naptha or, as suggested above, Acetone.

Tom B.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

You will never catch me on Facebook.

I've found lots of good deals on FB Marketplace.

 

[dkroth]

You will never catch me on Facebook.

I've found lots of good deals on FB Marketplace.

He's referencing the fact he's in incognito mode on FB. He's registered as a 34 year old mother of 2 from Peoria, Il.

You'll never find him.....




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[Ole Slewfoot]

I need to remove some old SHARPIE type writing on one of my old hand carry toolboxes and wondering if just rubbing it with some Simple Green is the best bet? or if I soak a paper towell with SG and leave it on will that do ok without taking off the original paint? GUNK BE GONE or do tell your favorite other than stripping and rapainting?

cheers

Go over it with dry erase marker, wait a little, and wipe.
It takes a couple treatments, and rubbing alcohol on the wipe may speed the process a little.

 

[Outlawmws]

Drives, DON't use SG. As mentioned, Alcohol (denatured or 90% rubbing) usually works as does Ronsen lighter fluid or White gas/Naphtha.

Apply with paper towel (mildly abrasive)

He's referencing the fact he's in incognito mode on FB. He's registered as a 34 year old mother of 2 from Peoria, Il.

You'll never find him.....
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[Ole Slewfoot]

I'm not joking about the dry erase, apparently its the same ink, but the erasable also has a non bonding agent that equalizes into the sharpie ink making it wipe removable.

 

[dkroth]

... Ronsen lighter fluid or White gas/Naphtha.

Five stars on the Ronsonol, though it hasn't had naphtha in it for years. The new stuff works just as good.

I still pick up old cans of it with naphtha at garage sales when I find it.





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[bmwrd0]

I used Ronsonal in the book trade for years to remove old stickers and whatnot. It really was good for that.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Drives,
Let us know what ended up working for you on removing the old Sharpie marks on your toolbox.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Coleman camp stove fuel is another good product for removing stuff like Sharpie marks, or for cleaning in general. It's basically the same thing as white gas.

 

[Spanner]

Hi Guys, this is my first post on here and my first Snap-On box. I bought the box used and made the frame for it to make it into a tool cart until such time that I get a roller cab. In Europe it’s not as easy to get Snap-On on boxes and I believe this particular box is pretty rare.

 

[lilredex]

Welcome! Your SO cart looks good, nicely organized.

 

[Pondjumper]

Hey. So I signed up and all after weeks of of reading non stop. I love this place. I'm a big fan of craftsman and the older stuff. I don't really know how to navigate around yet. It took me 20 min to figure out how to post this. I bought a Craftsman labeled wood machinist box today. The crown logo is engraved in the front lower drawer. I cant find any info. It looks just like a Gerstner 052 I believe. I'll try to figure out the picture thing next.

 

[Pondjumper]

Here's a pic of the craftsman 11 drawer

 

[drivesitfar]

Pondjumper: welcome to gj!!
I click on the paper clip to download pics but there are other options. If you can’t figure it out just ask for help cause if you have a Gertsner I’m sure we’d like to see it.

 

[TwoInch]

Coleman camp stove fuel is another good product for removing stuff like Sharpie marks, or for cleaning in general. It's basically the same thing as white gas.

Not directed at the quoted poster, just adding to that string of thoughts

Regular 91 isopropyl alcohol/rubbing alcohol removes sharpie from most surfaces. And obviously doesn't damage most laquered or enamel surfaces. Or most any surface for that matter. Just a dab and rub with a rag or paper towel, nothing abrasive.

Start with the least abrasive or least likely to dissolve finishes. SG, white gas, acetone, etc... Are much more likely to damage surface finishes, and depending on the paint, gas or acetone can trash it almost instantly. Proceed with caution with anything with solvent properties stronger than alcohol, including nail polish remover, which is designed to destroy paint by nature..

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[Spanner]

Thanks, would anyone know the model of this box or possibly the years this model was manufactured. I have looked on Snap-On website but I cannot see it listed.

 

[Stuart in MN]

Not directed at the quoted poster, just adding to that string of thoughts

Regular 91 isopropyl alcohol/rubbing alcohol removes sharpie from most surfaces. And obviously doesn't damage most laquered or enamel surfaces. Or most any surface for that matter. Just a dab and rub with a rag or paper towel, nothing abrasive.

Start with the least abrasive or least likely to dissolve finishes. SG, white gas, acetone, etc... Are much more likely to damage surface finishes, and depending on the paint, gas or acetone can trash it almost instantly. Proceed with caution with anything with solvent properties stronger than alcohol, including nail polish remover, which is designed to destroy paint by nature..

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I agree that it's always best to start with mild cleaners and only work up to harsher ones when necessary, but Coleman camp stove fuel is actually a pretty mild cleaner...I first heard about it from an old school auto interior shop owner, who used it for cleaning upholstery. I found that it works great on vinyl and cloth seats - I used it on my old Pontiac to remove some ancient stains on the cloth seats. You put some on a clean white towel and rub, the dirt comes out and it doesn't leave any marks or odor.

 

[drivesitfar]

PJ (pondjumper): looks like you figured out how to post pictures now too so you are good to go. we're a pretty friendly bunch here for the most part so hope you enjoy your time here and if you get posts on your threads or see posts of members giving other members **** please report it cause we are a self policing bunch and we like to come here to have fun.

that said if you have a Cool old Gertsner wood box like that I bet you've got some cool tools and skills too. GREAT LOOKING BOX and while i'm not the Gertsner expert you might also post it on the Wood Cabinets thread where a few of the wood toolbox guys look too. here's a link:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=305831&highlight=wood+cabinets

also if you have time to take and post more pictures of that cool Gertsner we all like pictures so please do.

ALL: I really thank you all for the comments on the Sharpie removal and when i make time to clean off a flat surface to work on the box i'll mention what I used and how it worked. i am liking the comments on rubbing alcohol and coleman white fuel so i might try them first with a rag or is paper towels or steel wool preferred?

thanks again all for your thoughts.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Here's a pic of the craftsman 11 drawer

Cool old chest Pj. Welcome to GJ. Like Drives said we love pics here so please do post more of the chest. It will be interesting to find out who was making these for Sears.

 

[drivesitfar]

Tex: since PJ mentioned his was a CRAFTSMAN & A GERTSNER maybe GERTSNER built a few for them too, but I always thought UNION was their wood toolbox maker.

PJ: if you do have time to take more pictures maybe take some of the names you see and even the lock cause sometimes that helps us identify the makers.

 

[Farrell]

My Snap on k260

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[Outlawmws]

Love that style SO box! Maybe someday!

 

[tombell572]

Pondjumper, Drives--Union Chest Co. in Rochester, NY did indeed make the Craftsman wood machinists' boxes, but Pond's pictures do not look like their work. That box may be a bit newer and I think Union was done by the late 1940's. Anyhow, nice box.

Tom B.

 

[Outlawmws]

I picked up a new to me smaller vintage oak machinist chest today - 16-1/2 X10-1/2 X 8 deep. Pid $40 which included a coupl eoif the bigger drawer full of moatly homeowner tools. (He also threw in a Bausch and Lomb magnifier on a stand - Circa 1942)

No clue about the box maker...Where is Beatcad?

Overall, this is in nice shape! No structural damage, the drawer are all in great shape and still have original(?) leatherette, drawer liners. (never seen that done but I like it!)

The lock is missing, and someone added a common brass hasp. I'll see if i can find the right mortise lock... the bottom drawer was apparently missing a pull knob, so someone move the remaining one to center position...

Back to the ID: Not a single mark, inside or out. the corners are bound with brass corners, and is seems solid!

These are after cleaning the top layers of nicotine off, more to go! (possibly a LOT more...)

Hasp and Mortise:

Drawer arrangement: I believe the case was stained dark and the drawers left lighter.

 

[Outlawmws]

The corner details of the drawer - a common method, but pretty strong. Pic also shows the brown leatherette.

Drawer face iThey all have the bead detail.

The handle has no disceranble wear or checking!

 

[Rileysan]

Two acquisitions this week.

First is a Ward's Powr Kraft 7 drawer cabinet that is in much better shape than the exterior paint indicates. Made by AMD/Remline.

The second is a Craftsman Commercial stack that I only found because of a lead by Smokeshow. I've been wanting this set for years and was barely able to get the seller to agree on a price. You see, it wasn't actually for sale. It was visible in the background of a picture in a Craigslist ad, and the seller intended to keep it. It now has a home with me.

Manufacturing dates are: April 1970 for the roller and February 1970 for the top chest. Since I'm a 1970 model as well, it's a perfect fit!

Brian

 

[tombell572]

Outlaw--Pilliod used that type of joinery on their corners and that style knob on the drawer as shown here: https://sites.google.com/site/theguideforwoodmachinistchests/pg-51---pilliod-history-dating, although they are both somewhat common as you noted. Leatherette used as a covering on the drawer bottoms is unusual,with felt preferred. Typically, leatherette was used to cover the entire outer box but not the drawer fronts on boxes made of a lesser wood such as poplar. Boxes in natural wood finish were usually oak as yours is.

A nice box at a real good price.

Tom B.