All Your Tools are Stolen--Replace with $500 Budget

[kctyphoon]

I'm willing to spend more on a quality set of impact sockets because a failure could be catastrophic. But buying used impact sockets is also risky--I have no idea how long those Mac sockets have been used.

Someone here posted a thread about a new SK impact socket set (metric) for $160, but the set only went up to 19mm. I really need a 21mm. However, that new SK set might be a better buy, I could just purchase an open stock 21mm impact socket locally.

No such thing as bad impact sockets.. the cheapest brands on earth with work just the same.. go to harbor freight or walmart even.. ideally find something that doesnt skip sizes.. cruise amazon even. They will not break. My HF and Husky impacts hold up just fine on my high torque m18 impact.

 

[Yarpo]

But I’ll try to provide a straight-forward answer. I don’t pretend to understand why some guys here are interested in the “Tools of Japan” or the obsession with “Snap-on Tools”. But I do understand that people have different interests.

Well I appreciate the answer, but the difference between the two is there's one Milwaukee Addiction thread, there's one Tools of Japan thread, there's 39 of these threads posted every few weeks. If you wanted to talk and BS with some dudes on the internet, fine, my question would have been easy to answer and you could have told me that. Instead you politely told me piss off, so I figured id stick around and prod a little further

And I’m not going to demand that these people justify their threads simply because I’m not interested in them. That’s a waste of their time and a waste of my time. Yet you’ve written four posts here, wanting me to justify this thread to you. Only an egomaniac would demand such a thing.

Most my posts here are just me giving tool recommendations that I've used while I sit down for lunch, or when I'm drinking coffee in the morning at my pc. I've purchased enough in the last few years that I've got a decent idea where to buy good budget friendly tools or find deals on them, so I try to help save people a few dollars here and there when I see the opportunity. I've posted only a handful of pictures of my tools and am not looking for any validation here, which totally makes me an egomaniac of the highest caliber I guess.

But let’s cut the BS. You have a problem with me because of our previous dustups in other threads. So you jumped into this thread with a chip on your shoulder and I gladly knocked it off. Now we’re both boring everyone to death. Congratulations.

I had no problems with you, I'm pretty sure I let that thread go and let you get the last word in. I asked a question and gave you a solid list that fit right in with your thread title, yet you pretty much told me to piss off. A valid question at that, as these hypothetical random budget, starter tool threads show up frequently. Hell, your other hypothetical thread overlaps with this one well. So really was it me or you with the chip on their shoulder, or you? You've started multiple hypothetical threads in the last month alone, so I simply asked, what gives, followed by my recommendation. Perhaps you do have to much time on your hands and you're bored and took offense to what I said, but it was a simple question.

 

[AL`]

Lots of DIY guys have them ...
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Ratcheting screwdriver, 3 different flat tips, #2, #3 phillips, 3/16” allen, T20 Torx – used many times
Sabre saw
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Broom
Dust pan
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I may have forgotten a few things, I know I've forgotten some mechanics tools as I was into my main box several times, just don't remember what for.

I'm just picturing thieves with brooms and dustpans under their arms making fast for the getaway car right now ...

 

[jd_1138]

Get the regular non pro breaker bars at HF. 10 bucks for the 25 inch one. Quinn and Doyle stuff at HF is pretty good. I like their composite and swivel/roto line of Pittsburgh Pro ratchets.

GW and Tekton are 2 decent brands for the money.

If I had such a tight budget, I'd also look into the larger sets at HF. They are dirt cheap. It's best to have every tool category covered -- even if it's a cheapie. Can always replace the stuff later with name brand stuff here and there -- like take out the cheapie ratchets and replace with HF's excellent composite or swivel ratchets. Then relegate the HF set to the junkyard box or give it to a needy relative or slap it in the shed as a spare.

 

[ssdave]

I'm just picturing thieves with brooms and dustpans under their arms making fast for the getaway car right now ...

Maybe they left the broom and dustpan and pliers and screwdriver and hammer and putty knife and level and oil drain pan and such at the OP's house, and just took his impact sockets, ratchet, air compressor and air impact. I don't know, I was just trying to play within the rules. Thief stole all his tools, needs to get going again for under $500. I'd bet i've used a screwdriver 5000 times and a set of pliers 2000 times since the last time I used my impact gun.

 

[ZRX61]

My worse nightmare...
I came home one afternoon & found my garage wide open. Probably over $40K in tools in the 1000sq ft garage at the time.
Thought I'd been robbed.


Turned out ******* here had left the door open & was gone for about 5 hours.
Nothing missing.

 

[Rickster]

HF 3/8 & 1/4dr socket sets and a wrench set. 3 screwdrivers; #2 Phillips, flat blade to open paint cans & use as a scraper, and a thin flat blade for electrical. Cheap drill and a small set of drill bits. Pair of Channelocks and some needle nose pliers. 12ft tape rule and a utility knife. Claw hammer. If any money left then an angle grinder with some cut-off discs and a few flap discs. I'm good to go!

 

[Citation]

OK, I would start with the $100 GW 1/4 + 3/8 socket set mentioned earlier. That will take care of most of the socket needs other than 1/2"
For 1/2" I would probably go with something like this Stanley set for $20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000NIKA4U/?tag=atomicindus08-20
or this more complete set for $50
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HEC200/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Really this is an area where if you are willing to go with lower end stuff you don't have to spend too much. My Stanley impact set was from Walmart and probably cost $20 when I purchased it years back. Nothing high end but its given me no issues.

Here is a 1/2" drive set for $44, Dewalt
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WLVVF7I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

10 pc Crescent brand (likely Apex, same as GW) metric wrench set. These are actually quite nice for $14
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EXX7SRS/?tag=atomicindus08-20


1/2" impact, either an IR 231C for ~$120 or a lower end gun for $70 or so.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JVIHQI/?tag=atomicindus08-20
This isn't a powerhouse 1/2 but likely good enough for most jobs you would ever run up against. I'm just assuming you still have a compressor. Sure, some will say go big or go home but this is a tight budget.


So that puts us at
$100
$50
$44
$70
$14
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$278

That leaves room for adding accessories such as roto ratchets in 1/4 and 3/8 drive, screwdrivers, a trip to HF for some larger size wrenches and some lower cost SAE wrenches (again I like the Crescent brand stuff)

Are these "good" tools? I suspect the pro mechanics can find issues with many of these suggestions. However, this is a very affordable suggestion that would have no trouble handling most occasional/shade tree jobs. Most of my commonly used wrenches and sockets are Cman (US and Asia) purchased over the last 20 years or so. I do own the Crescent wrenches I suggested as a second set to use with my Cman RP wrenches. What I've found is that in general the difference in quality between these and my father's Snapon stuff has never been sufficient to prevent me from completing a job. The biggest issue I have with my Cman stuff is the wrenches and ratchets were always too short for good leverage. I solved that with added a few new, low cost, ratchets and the Crescent wrenches (longer than the same size Cman). None have let me down. The higher end stuff certainly is nice and as a pro probably does make a difference. For an amateur, not as much. Heck, there are probably a few random sockets that have never been used out of my original Cman socket set. Things like 9mm that just doesn't appear on the cars I've owned.

 

[JulianMorrow]

Hell, your other hypothetical thread overlaps with this one well. So really was it me or you with the chip on their shoulder, or you?

Ok, maybe this will help: If you're not interested in a thread, then skip it. Stop trying to play Forum Cop. Stop crying about threads you don't like. If you ever post a thread, I'll try to read it with an open mind. And if I'm not interested in it, I'll do you the courtesy of just skipping it.

Thanks for taking the time to post the tool list you sent.

 

[JulianMorrow]

Thief stole all his tools, needs to get going again for under $500. I'd bet i've used a screwdriver 5000 times and a set of pliers 2000 times since the last time I used my impact gun.

The scenario was just a "garage theft". I keep an extra set of screwdrivers and pliers inside the house--I just assumed everyone keeps screwdrivers/pliers around the house, with a nicer set in the garage.

Something similar has happened lately to a few of my neighbors. Their houses were untouched, but their outbuildings were broken into. One of my neighbors lost several thousands of dollars in tools, stolen from his outbuilding.

 

[ChrisLS8]

I'm willing to spend more on a quality set of impact sockets because a failure could be catastrophic. But buying used impact sockets is also risky--I have no idea how long those Mac sockets have been used.

Someone here posted a thread about a new SK impact socket set (metric) for $160, but the set only went up to 19mm. I really need a 21mm. However, that new SK set might be a better buy, I could just purchase an open stock 21mm impact socket locally.

I've been banging the same set of Pitts Pros for about 9 years, I don't think you understand how sockets break especially impact sockets which is basically never.

Especially for a weekender

 

[ChrisLS8]

Lots of DIY guys have them. But, my point is if you have all your tools stolen, you would buy the stuff you need to do the basic stuff you need to do, and then, when you can afford, start buying the nice to have's. If you don't have a screwdriver and set of pliers yet, an electric impact is low on the list of things that you need.

I don't rise to the rank of DIY weekender, so take what I say with some discretion. I'm just a paper pushing white collar guy that likes to tinker a bit in my basement shop and in my garage. I haven't torn apart a car and built an engine for about 3 years. Last brake job I did was 16 months ago. I only do about 3 or 4 oil changes a year. I mostly just do household stuff. I didn't do any DIY stuff this weekend, just some around the house chores. In fact, I took most of Sunday off and did other things.

I just took a few minutes and listed the tools I used this weekend. Here's the list; most of the things are basic tools, not mechanics stuff. I think the list is more representative of what a DIY homeowner needs and uses than the typical list of mechanics tools that I see recommended here.

Ratcheting screwdriver, 3 different flat tips, #2, #3 phillips, 3/16” allen, T20 Torx – used many times
Sabre saw
Belt Sander
Half Sheet Sander
3/8” box end wrench
Flat screwdriver to pry off can lid
Putty knife
Utility Knife
Claw hammer
6” crescent wrench
15/16” box end wrench
Corded 3/8” drill and half a dozen different bits
¼” bit ratchet
#2 phillips screwdriver
4” paint brush
Paint Roller
6”, 18” drywall knives
Drywall Pan
Drywall hawk
Drywall sander
Torpedo level
6 foot carpenter level
Stud Finder
Air Compressor
Nail Gun
Staple gun
Brad Nailer
Framing nailer
½” plunge router
¼” router
Drill Press and ½” drill bit
Oscillating spindle sander
Wire stripper
Needlenose pliers
Flat Klein screwdriver
Shop Vac
Broom
Dust pan
Worm Drive skilsaw
Red Devil Paint scraper
Cabinet scraper
Starrett 24” straight edge
Flat screwholding screwdriver
Plastic deadblow hammer
Pony 12” F Clamp
Two Pony 24” F Clamps
6” C Clamp
Mitre Saw
Table Saw
Rattail rasp
Flat rasp
Flat metal file
Diamond hone
Burnisher
Tape measure (several)
1 1/8” x ¾” drive socket
15/16” x ¾” drive socket
Ball Peen hammer
5/16” pin/alignment punch
Flat thin Stanley pry bar
Makita Screw gun


I may have forgotten a few things, I know I've forgotten some mechanics tools as I was into my main box several times, just don't remember what for.

Those aren't mechanics tools......OP asked about tools for cars not for fixing a wall your stepson popped a hole in.

 

[JulianMorrow]

Those aren't mechanics tools......OP asked about tools for cars not for fixing a wall your stepson popped a hole in.

Yeah, I should've been more specific. My garage is primarily for working on three cars and a riding lawnmower. Dave's tool list is quite extensive, some of the tools on there reminds me of being on a summer framing crew in high school. My brother-in-law was a carpenter & got me that job. Slingin' a hammer in the hot sun. Don't think I could do that now.

 

[JulianMorrow]

No such thing as bad impact sockets.. the cheapest brands on earth with work just the same.. go to harbor freight or walmart even.. ideally find something that doesnt skip sizes.. cruise amazon even. They will not break. My HF and Husky impacts hold up just fine on my high torque m18 impact.

Well, I feel better now about my Chinese made Craftsman impacts. My local Sears was closing late last year & they were having a fire sale. I picked up two sets of Craftsman 1/2" metric impacts (deep & shallow). I use them primarily as sockets for my 1/2" ratchet, torque wrench, & breaker bar. I sometimes use them on an impact wrench. I have very few chrome 1/2" sockets.

 

[redwrench60]

Buy a used Glock and track down the son of a ***** that stole my tools.

 

[JulianMorrow]

Sorry, I missed that part about mechanics tools for cars, and still do in the OP's post. I must be low on reading comprehension. I just read the part about "You left your garage unlocked, and now all your tools are stolen", must have glossed over the mechanics tools for cars part.

Actually, I wasn't specific enough, but Chris inferred correctly. I need tools to maintain three cars and a riding lawnmower.
If I need to add an extra room to my house, I'll just call you, Dave. lol.

 

[CR888]

I'm not a fan of these hypothetical threads with a billion answers to the same question. But if you want to replace years worth of tool capability overnight with $500, China will have to get involved....lots of China made tools. I hate Chinese tools, price is number-1 quality is a big number far from number-1.

 

[lbhsbz]

Why does everyone call it a hypothetical situation? The guy clearly stated what he needed and for what price.

I put together a road box to take on road trips and to take to our spot at the river in the summer to keep the jet skis and boat running and to do whatever needs to get done on the travel trailer. It's a craftsman 4 drawer carry box full of harbor freight, older craftsman, and a bunch of other stuff that I'm most certainly not more than $350 into, and while I make take more time...there's not a lot I can't do working out of that little box that I can working out my big snap on deal with $50K in it.

What the OP is asking for can be done for significantly less than half his budget with decent quality tools...so why not answer his questions rather than being assholes.

 

[chipjumper]

Amazon price was $380 set is Williams WSC-238 General Maintenance Set (236 Piece).

This set is not $380 it is $1790



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[chipjumper]

Wow you stole that set. It’s like $1700 all over the net.


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[Yarpo]

I paid $380. I have another one being delivered this week for the same price. Amazon prices vary all over the place, use Keepa to check the price I paid on January 17th.

I'll put my money where my mouth is. Arrange a time to meet next week, and I'll sell my second set to you for $380, and I keep the deadblow hammer and one wrench set of my choice for a profit. Or, pay the postage, and I'll ship you the set on the same terms.

Checks out, that's a ******* steal. I almost wanna buy that second set off you and I have little need, damn!

 

[PJNJ]

Those aren't mechanics tools......OP asked about tools for cars not for fixing a wall your stepson popped a hole in.

Sorry, I missed that part about mechanics tools for cars, and still do in the OP's post. I must be low on reading comprehension. I just read the part about "You left your garage unlocked, and now all your tools are stolen", must have glossed over the mechanics tools for cars part.

No ssdave, you read it right. Nothing in the original post about "mechanics" tools or specifically limiting it to tools used to work on cars. The term "tools" in the original post would include more than tools to fix cars.

That said; I'd still need waaaaaay in excess of $500 to replace what I have in car and motorcycle tools.

 

[JulianMorrow]

I've bought a full set of Williams mechanics tools, adequate to do most of what you are asking. Amazon price was $380 set is Williams WSC-238 General Maintenance Set (236 Piece).

Dave, that's an incredible buy--at $380 you stole that set. So the Williams Taiwan tools = Blue-Point. Is that correct?

Those ratchets look a lot like the Blue-Point ratchets I was considering last month.

 

[JulianMorrow]

If I was buying tools over again or buying tools for home, my vote goes to Tekton...I like them for the price vs. quality argument.

I like Tekton as well. I bought a Tekton 1/2" torque wrench last summer for $40 off Amazon. I was impressed when pulling that wrench out of the box. It has a really solid weight & feel to it. And a gorgeous chrome finish. It's worked like a champ so far.

If I knew nothing about Tekton and you handed me that wrench, I'd think you paid $100+ for it.

 

[Farmall450]

Those aren't mechanics tools......OP asked about tools for cars not for fixing a wall your stepson popped a hole in.

I mean, he explained his logic for posting those instead right above

 

[Professional Tool User]

I'm willing to spend more on a quality set of impact sockets because a failure could be catastrophic. But buying used impact sockets is also risky--I have no idea how long those Mac sockets have been used.

Someone here posted a thread about a new SK impact socket set (metric) for $160, but the set only went up to 19mm. I really need a 21mm. However, that new SK set might be a better buy, I could just purchase an open stock 21mm impact socket locally.

Do not waste your money on expensive impact sockets, especially if you don't beat on them on a daily basis. Cheap impact sockets work fine. I've only broken one cheap impact socket before and I was really beating on it. I would only buy expensive ones if I can get them if the cost is marginally higher than a Harbor Freight set. For swivel impacts and universal joints, that's where you spend the big bucks.

 

[Gurp]

301 mech set has all your sockets covered 200 bones
https://m.harborfreight.com/301-pc-mechanics-tool-set-63457.html
3/8 composite ratchet 60 tooth feels good in hands. I use mine all the time 9 bones
https://m.harborfreight.com/38-in-drive-composite-quick-release-ratchet-62290.html
1/4 composite ratchet. Same goodness as above
https://m.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarter-inch-heavy-duty-composite-ratchet-66312.html
1/2 impacts i use a set of these and have heard good stories on them. 25 bones
https://m.harborfreight.com/13-pc-12-in-drive-metric-impact-deep-socket-set-69279.html
Tooltopia has GW long patterns for 75
https://www.tooltopia.com/gearwrenc...ELZctwP4YGDKvJOWAtZb72iEEosyPfdhoCh9cQAvD_BwE
Leaves you with about 150 bones after taxes to get a impact.

 

[PWC Repair]

Guess I'll throw in my 2 cents worth. I just recently came home to wrench fulltime for myself....self employed, yay! Go ahead and bash me now for wrenching fulltime and not buying off a tool truck but......in 25 years I've NEVER had a piece of hardware complain to me that the brand of tool I'm using is the wrong one! So, here's what I would buy, including estimated tax.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Mechanics-Tool-Set-230-Piece-H230MTS/301653450 $87
https://www.harborfreight.com/10-pc-12-in-drive-metric-impact-deep-socket-set-69287.html $35
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-S...bby-and-Pouch-30-Piece-H30PCRWPOUCH/305011099 $65 I have this set and they are kind of long maybe worth looking at
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwauk...Detent-Pin-Socket-Retention-9072-20/100596039 $178 Alittle more than the Dewalt but a much better warranty.
https://www.harborfreight.com/15-pc-premium-screwdriver-set-64549.html $27.50 I have this set and so far they're just as good as my USA Craftsman Pro or my Husky Diamond
https://www.harborfreight.com/4-pc-pliers-set-64262.html $22 Great set for the money!
https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-drive-professional-click-type-torque-wrench-64064.html $110
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Torque-Lock-Locking-Pliers-Set-2-Piece-48-22-3602/206541169 $22 Some of the best locking pliers I've ever had.
And with the remaining $20 maybe an odd tool or nice wide jaw adjustable wrench

 

[jd_1138]

Dave, that's an incredible buy--at $380 you stole that set. So the Williams Taiwan tools = Blue-Point. Is that correct?

Those ratchets look a lot like the Blue-Point ratchets I was considering last month.

That set is $1,790 when I pull it up on Amazon. $380's a steal. I'd buy everyone I can at that price.

 

[Augus7us]

Man I thought you lost all your tools. What is the point of this thread?

 

[ngk22r]

Man I thought you lost all your tools. What is the point of this thread?

It was a hypothetical and some really good info came out of it.

1) have home owners insurance
2) there is many different sets you can get for under $500

 

[JulianMorrow]

Man I thought you lost all your tools. What is the point of this thread?

Oops, look what I just did. I woke up Augustus Caesar after a two thousand year nap.
Sorry, AC. There's no point to this thread. It was just an excuse to talk about tools on a tools forum. Now go back to sleep.

 

[65k10]

This is by no means the best value and might be slipping out of the realm of home/diy hand tools. I was looking at it from what I would want if I lost my tools and had to replace them. I know I could do better for the money and things like the chrome 1/2 set would likely better be served getting impacts. I went heavy on Tekton because it seems good enough and it can be purchased from amazon, as most of the tools on this list are. I figure I'd like to get back up and running in short order and that's why most of it comes from amazon where I can get it via prime 2 day shipping. Anywho, here is my list.

Tekton 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 drive socket sets.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MDO6L90/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LYZ2IJ4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Tekton SAE and Metric wrench sets
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OXUPFDU/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Bondhus hex keys
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7VG5C/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Felo bit holding screwdriver
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E62NHS/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Wiha bit set
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002S0O7W2/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Vaughan 16 and 32 oz ball pein hammers
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00018AP1U/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00018AP2O/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Wilde punch and chisel set
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-...14-c-9122.htm?tid=-1528026763536412290&ipos=1

Tekton Pry bar set
https://www.homedepot.com/p/TEKTON-...andled-Pry-Bar-Set-3-Piece-LSQ42103/303334897

Channellock Plier set
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Channellock-4-Piece-Ultimate-Plier-Set-HD-1/100190542

That puts me at just under 490 dollars which will be a tad above the 500 mark once tax is figured in. There is certainly room for improvement, but this would get me what I will use from a minimal number of sources and in a short time frame. If a person has time, I would likely opt for that gearwrench 1/4 and 3/8 bogo socket set and possibly look further into 1/2 impacts, extensions, etc.

 

[M6erfan]

A well trained guard dog

 

[d.mcfarland]

Probably about time we shut this one down.

 

[f121]

It was a hypothetical and some really good info came out of it.

1) have home owners insurance
2) there is many different sets you can get for under $500

Its been fun to think through what I actually need and would replace.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Personally, I would skip the 1/2" stuff completely. Not sure what kind of work you do, but the only time I use 1/2" any more is for lug nuts.

I likely would skip 3/8" impact sockets on such a limited budget.

Also, for a DIYer, I would be shopping used tools (perhaps you could get a good deal on 1/2" sockets there) but most of my new tools would come from HF. As good as Craftsman at a fraction of the cost.

A few years back, I put together a "travel" tool box. 1/4" and 3/8", SAE and Metric, shallow and deep, SAE and Metric combination wrenches, screwdrivers, etc. etc. This was probably under $300.

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[Farmall450]

Personally, I would skip the 1/2" stuff completely. Not sure what kind of work you do, but the only time I use 1/2" any more is for lug nuts.

I likely would skip 3/8" impact sockets on such a limited budget.

Also, for a DIYer, I would be shopping used tools (perhaps you could get a good deal on 1/2" sockets there) but most of my new tools would come from HF. As good as Craftsman at a fraction of the cost.

A few years back, I put together a "travel" tool box. 1/4" and 3/8", SAE and Metric, shallow and deep, SAE and Metric combination wrenches, screwdrivers, etc. etc. This was probably under $300.

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I would hope that was under $300

 

[JulianMorrow]

Personally, I would skip the 1/2" stuff completely. Not sure what kind of work you do, but the only time I use 1/2" any more is for lug nuts.

I use 1/2" ratchet & sockets for 80% of my work. I really like the extra leverage & torque that a 1/2" brings. I'm surprised how many people here prefer 3/8". I seem to remember a mechanic posting here that he didn't like the extra weight of 1/2" tools & preferred the lighter 3/8" stuff. I guess that makes sense if you're wrenching 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. But I use 1/2" tools for almost everything.

Also, for a DIYer, I would be shopping used tools (perhaps you could get a good deal on 1/2" sockets there) but most of my new tools would come from HF. As good as Craftsman at a fraction of the cost.

It's fine if you prefer HF over CMan. But those screwdrivers in your pic--they look like CMan to me.

 

[JulianMorrow]

Those screwdrivers have to be about the poorest mass produced and sold ones ever passed off onto the public in quantity. I bought into the "craftsman quality" thing in the 80's, and had some of those.

There's differences in quality, even within a brand. The cheap plastic-handled Craftsman screwdrivers (that were in the picture) isn't something I'd ever buy (see link).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L5V837F/?tag=atomicindus08-20

There's a better quality stainless steel Craftsman screwdriver set with the padded/cushion grips--I've got a few of the screwdrivers below (see link).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RYEQPTK/?tag=atomicindus08-20