The VISES of Garage Journal
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oldldh
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Once upon a time, I introduced you guys to a color called "Arrest-Me-Red"...
It was the color of my 1971 Dodge Charger R/T, with a 440 Magnum...
In 1974, I was stationed at Zaragosa AB, Spain...And had the Charger with me...We went to the Barcelona Zoo, where I told my children, that my brother was in jail...(They had a albino Gorilla, "Snowflake", in the zoo!!!)...
Coming back from Barcelona, I was cruising at about 115mph, in a 130kph zone on the Autopista, when I was flagged over by a Land Rover full of members of the "Guardia Civil"...They sit with their radar pointed back up the road, and since they all have Uzis, I thought it prudent to stop...
They couldn't believe that the engine was 7.2 liters in displacement...
The Head policeman told me that if kept driving my car that fast, and since it was really, really red, I would get arrested all the time...Then he told me he loved my car, and told me to keep it to less that 150kph, and sent me on my way...
Hence "Arrest-Me-Red"...
The attached image is a photo of my brother...
It was the color of my 1971 Dodge Charger R/T, with a 440 Magnum...
In 1974, I was stationed at Zaragosa AB, Spain...And had the Charger with me...We went to the Barcelona Zoo, where I told my children, that my brother was in jail...(They had a albino Gorilla, "Snowflake", in the zoo!!!)...
Coming back from Barcelona, I was cruising at about 115mph, in a 130kph zone on the Autopista, when I was flagged over by a Land Rover full of members of the "Guardia Civil"...They sit with their radar pointed back up the road, and since they all have Uzis, I thought it prudent to stop...
They couldn't believe that the engine was 7.2 liters in displacement...
The Head policeman told me that if kept driving my car that fast, and since it was really, really red, I would get arrested all the time...Then he told me he loved my car, and told me to keep it to less that 150kph, and sent me on my way...
Hence "Arrest-Me-Red"...
The attached image is a photo of my brother...
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Shiftless
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Thanks for the background story oldie
I’ve been hanging around on these pages for a few years and I remember your “arrest me red” description of a particular color. I was thinking of arest me when I painted my Tradesman a few weeks ago.
Way back when, I had an olds with a 455 and later a T-bird with a 429
And then a Galaxie 500XL with a 390
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I’ve been hanging around on these pages for a few years and I remember your “arrest me red” description of a particular color. I was thinking of arest me when I painted my Tradesman a few weeks ago.
Way back when, I had an olds with a 455 and later a T-bird with a 429
And then a Galaxie 500XL with a 390
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royce
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Great story oldldh,
My first truck was a cancered out 62 Chevy.
I guess I would call the color "I'm broke brown"
Royce
My first truck was a cancered out 62 Chevy.
I guess I would call the color "I'm broke brown"
Royce
Maui
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Shiftless, I have a 1969 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 390 two barrel. I bought it from the original owner 26 years ago for $1500. It came with factory air, and I’ve only had to charge it once in all those years. It still blows ice cold. 
Maui
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Ken, I bet that was beautiful!
va.grouseman
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My first car was a 68 Camaro that I wrecked so many times it was half the length and half the width it was when I bought it.---My next was a 67 Camaro that I had more respect for.---Still have that one.---My first pickup was a 76 Scottsdale that I drove till they would no longer inspect it because there was no floorboard left.---I felt F. F.'s pain.
Salvage Workshop
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Long time follower on another account!
Anyone have a Cole Tool Mfg Vise? I found it rotting away in the back of an old blacksmith / Welding shop, and thought it was SO cool! Very unique!
I don't have the Post drill for it, but if you know anyone with one willing to part with it, let me know!
I just finished restoring this vise and the video is here:
Let me know your thoughts!
Anyone have a Cole Tool Mfg Vise? I found it rotting away in the back of an old blacksmith / Welding shop, and thought it was SO cool! Very unique!
I don't have the Post drill for it, but if you know anyone with one willing to part with it, let me know!
I just finished restoring this vise and the video is here:
Let me know your thoughts!
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DarkMonohue
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Initial thought: your link starts the video at 5:46 in.
Salvage Workshop
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You are absolutely correct! Thank you!
I just updated the link for the Cole Tool Vise Restoration:
davethorik
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sandman54
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more German eye candy for V A, on the left is a Von Heuer and on the right is a D. R. P.
Man that is some eye candy. Here is a little German I picked up not to long ago.
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trijeff
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Holy camole Sandman, I got vise diabetes with that sweet sweet eye candy
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KMScott
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Oldie, love your story, everything makes sense now, sure miss Big Caddy. He painted a Craftsman in Arrest me Red just for you.
Sandman, been showing some nice vises, been a while since we have talked.
Been a rough month since I lost both my parents two weeks apart. I am finally back in the shop making chips. Needed a little challenge so why not make some Parker jaws. Building two sets, one for a Parker 272 swivel jaw and another set for a 229X, both great vises and will restore nicely. Hey guys don't ask, only making Parker jaws for my vise's. Wish I had more time to build sets for ones that need them. I'll post these two vises when finished.
Sandman, been showing some nice vises, been a while since we have talked.
Been a rough month since I lost both my parents two weeks apart. I am finally back in the shop making chips. Needed a little challenge so why not make some Parker jaws. Building two sets, one for a Parker 272 swivel jaw and another set for a 229X, both great vises and will restore nicely. Hey guys don't ask, only making Parker jaws for my vise's. Wish I had more time to build sets for ones that need them. I'll post these two vises when finished.
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I really appreciate your workmanship. I am sorry to hear of your parents passing. My wife and I have been through that. We are lucky we had them.
va.grouseman
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Just keep tickling my sweet tooth Sandman.---I love it.---You and Rusty and a bunch of others have those sweet little German vises and I yet to cotton on to one of those.---I have vises from Australia, England, Canada, Spain, Chech., China, (yea I know),Japan, Argentina, Poland, Russia, and of course the good old U.S.A., but none of that fine German craftsmanship
KMS, I do love your work!---You've raised a lot of good old vises from the dead.
KMS, I do love your work!---You've raised a lot of good old vises from the dead.
tool_scrounge
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A bit back I picked up a Parker Union 6" vise (165 lbs with swivel base, 139 lbs without, 8.5" max opening). It has the new style lead screw retention plate (machined, not cast) and the original wrap around vise jaws.
KMScott posted a photo of a similar but smaller 3.5" Parker vise as a part number 973-1/2 B as shown in the photo below.
Would that make the vise I found a model 976B? When we have confirmed the part number I will post it in the vise Info thread.
The pilot of the swivel base looks to be sheared off and stuck into the main vise casting. There is a smaller thru hole from the pilot hole into the main casting. I presume it got rusted stuck and someone tried to force the vise to swivel, thus shearing off the swivel base pilot. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to remove the pilot?
In addition I need to fabricate some swivel locks. Does anyone have a similar size Parker and can give me some outside dimensions of the lock and rod handle?
Thanks
KMScott posted a photo of a similar but smaller 3.5" Parker vise as a part number 973-1/2 B as shown in the photo below.
Would that make the vise I found a model 976B? When we have confirmed the part number I will post it in the vise Info thread.
The pilot of the swivel base looks to be sheared off and stuck into the main vise casting. There is a smaller thru hole from the pilot hole into the main casting. I presume it got rusted stuck and someone tried to force the vise to swivel, thus shearing off the swivel base pilot. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to remove the pilot?
In addition I need to fabricate some swivel locks. Does anyone have a similar size Parker and can give me some outside dimensions of the lock and rod handle?
Thanks
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Heavymetal
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Here’s my bench full. The Parker looks like some dummy brazed the outer jaw on.Im gonna deal with that soon. My Wizard has a cool story. The old dude I bought my property from left it in the garage for me. He bought it at our small town Sentry hardware that was also a Western Auto. Turns out the same old timer still owns it and sold it to him. He said if he gets bored he might be able to find the sales ticket. That would be sweet. Not too old but a cool story if I get the sale ticket.
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Private Lugnutz
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I busted that theory on drives' 'Wilton Dating' thread a couple years ago with ads I discovered in research. It started with 1 year and moved to 5 years shortly thereafter. I'm on my phone, and I will get you the precise details later, but the 1 year guarantee only lasted a couple years as I recall. By the time the first date codes on slides show up in 1945 (note: they are production dates, not guarantee termination dates, which was the issue/great debate that my deep dive aimed to resolve), it was a 5 year guarantee.
My new to me Reed is in service. I asked for and received I really nice note from the PO outlining the 405’s history. While the exact manufacturing date can’t be pinned down, the vise was purchased new by the Nebel Knitting Mill in South Charlotte, NC around 1929. It was used in the maintenance department there until the plant closed in 1989. The PO worked there during his later school years (he is around 70 yo) and his dad was a Superintendent of the plant for 45 years. The PO’s dad, liked iron stuff and purchased the vise once the mill closed and used it in his house some. PO inherited the vise and had it on a pallet in his metal working artist studio.
After my usual vacillating indecision, I drilled and tapped 3, 5/8 holes in my 1/2” steel bench top and turned some indexing washers from a bit of “Stressproof” steel I had laying around couples with a few grade 8, black oxide bolts which have been gathering patina on a shelf over the bast 20 years.
The Reed has a lot less back-lash in the handle than any of my other vises two of which are a Yost and a Wilton of recent US manufacture. The Wilton wins with regard to dynamic jaw “wiggle”. Rudimentary testing left me impressed by the clamping force as well as the sensitivity.
I’m not able to slip O-Rings over the ball-ends of the handle to cushion the fall. This bic#h will take a chunk out of my hand at some point if I don’t figure out a solution. Any “advise” on that will be appreciated.
After my usual vacillating indecision, I drilled and tapped 3, 5/8 holes in my 1/2” steel bench top and turned some indexing washers from a bit of “Stressproof” steel I had laying around couples with a few grade 8, black oxide bolts which have been gathering patina on a shelf over the bast 20 years.
The Reed has a lot less back-lash in the handle than any of my other vises two of which are a Yost and a Wilton of recent US manufacture. The Wilton wins with regard to dynamic jaw “wiggle”. Rudimentary testing left me impressed by the clamping force as well as the sensitivity.
I’m not able to slip O-Rings over the ball-ends of the handle to cushion the fall. This bic#h will take a chunk out of my hand at some point if I don’t figure out a solution. Any “advise” on that will be appreciated.
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I had a Reed with a large ball end that was a pain to slip the o-rings over. I found a piece of PVC that the OD was a bit larger that the ball, gripped it in the vise to hold it and was able to get the o-ring on it. The next part is easier with 3 hands, press the PVC tight to the ball end, and slide the o-ring over the ball. I did chamfer the end of the PVC so it fit the ball almost to the center otherwise it might get stuck in the "gap" between PVC and ball.
I use a piece of 1/4" rubber purchased from McMaster and have been able to stretch the rubber alot and not have it break. Part number 86335K17
I purchased the MAYHEW hollow punch set and can mount 2 punch's at the same time so perfect donuts!
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I found this old Wards vise on a road trip to central Cal. It was purchases at Rust Bros. Antiques in Coarsegold, Ca.
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Muggzy
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Sorry for the cross - post, but it was recommended that I post this on this thread for better exposure;
Saw this vise at a junk shop this morning and was wondering if someone on here could school me on it a little. Never saw a spring loaded vise this big before. It's hinged at the bottom, about 12"+ tall and the Jaws are only about 3" wide. The only markings on it are the "NO 34" across the hinge at the bottom.
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Saw this vise at a junk shop this morning and was wondering if someone on here could school me on it a little. Never saw a spring loaded vise this big before. It's hinged at the bottom, about 12"+ tall and the Jaws are only about 3" wide. The only markings on it are the "NO 34" across the hinge at the bottom.
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Outlawmws
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They made "shorty" post vises for portable forge/Blacksmith's work that attached to a wagon's tongue - That looks like a "lightweight" cast version? 
NC Rick -
Are you using a lubricant to get the o-rings past the ball? Soft soap, or something that won’t harm the neoprene or whatever they are.
I like the PVC idea, but seems like it might be just about as difficult to get the rings over the tube as over the ball.
How about a PVC (we’re talking flex tubing, right?) tube with a ID similar to OD of the ball, and using it to drive the o-ring directly over the ball? Hammer the **** of the tube.
Are you using a lubricant to get the o-rings past the ball? Soft soap, or something that won’t harm the neoprene or whatever they are.
I like the PVC idea, but seems like it might be just about as difficult to get the rings over the tube as over the ball.
How about a PVC (we’re talking flex tubing, right?) tube with a ID similar to OD of the ball, and using it to drive the o-ring directly over the ball? Hammer the **** of the tube.
SignalZero
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My wife randomly wanted to check out an estate sale and some yard sales last week. I ended up taking this Wilton vise home from the estate sale for $5.
It cleaned up in the parts washer pretty well (after I took the first pic). But I wasn't going to be happy without doing a little work on it.
I repainted it and hit the fasteners and jaws with a wire wheel. I picked gold paint for the lettering because I liked the contrast.
I'm pretty happy with the result. So I may want to finally do my old Reed-made Craftsman in the near future.
It cleaned up in the parts washer pretty well (after I took the first pic). But I wasn't going to be happy without doing a little work on it.
I repainted it and hit the fasteners and jaws with a wire wheel. I picked gold paint for the lettering because I liked the contrast.
I'm pretty happy with the result. So I may want to finally do my old Reed-made Craftsman in the near future.
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tool_scrounge
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Isopropyl alcohol works great as a rubber lubricant. Then it evaporates leaving no residue.
DarkMonohue
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Looks pretty sharp. For five bucks you couldn't hardly say no. Nice work!
I see a lot of contrasting paint on lettering. Was that something most manufacturers did? My 1980 Wilton C-1 doesn't look like it ever had a contrasting color on the raised lettering.
va.grouseman
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Here's an interesting auction.---Anybody watching?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273707681978?ul_noapp=true
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273707681978?ul_noapp=true
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Yes, I’m thinking it’s going to sell for $600
Outlawmws
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DM, Very few vises cane that way from the factory. Most just used stove black or equivalent "back in the day" for a finish.
Smitty, is that going to be your bid?
Smitty, is that going to be your bid?
PghJKB
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Was figuring $450 when it first posted - looks like a newbie has a hard one for it.
JKB
Mum...DM, Very few vises cane that way from the factory. Most just used stove black or equivalent "back in the day" for a finish.
Smitty, is that going to be your bid?
The last one sold for $380 just before Christmas. It was in great condition and had a fixed base.
SignalZero
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Thanks.
I know this vise didn't have the contrasting lettering. I think I'm just like most here who think it looks sharp, and if you're going through the effort of refinishing, why not?
