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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
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A little long overdue update. For some reason I've been busy. Something to do with Spring, I think.

I took down the winter bird feeders and put up hummingbird feeders, per my wife's instructions. I built these feeders several years ago, from eastern red cedar (aromatic cedar) which is rot resistant. We had some big logs and cut them 1/4" thick for siding.

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The birds like them because there are no obstructions to hide predators from their view. The dowels fit loose in the holes, with a piece of copper wire bent in an "S" to hold them from falling out. That lets them collapse part way and avoids breakage when they fall. They've probably got twenty seasons on them, and have blown down a handful of times, but all are still serviceable.

Not a very good picture, but this is a coyote about 100 yards from the barn.

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I missed.

Who wants to see some casting? :willy_nil

I thought so, but here it is anyway.

Hammer half buried in sand, orange blind riser to feed shrinkage, turquoise riser to take initial flow surge, runner in sand below, gate going to blind riser, and I'm holding up the sprue. Pretty small stuff but works great.

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My finger is in approximately the same location after finishing the mold, cutting the pouring basin, and installing a foam plug.

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The pour


Post pour

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Demolded, I forgot to turn it the same way :sad:

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And the bottom side. I forgot to put a ramp in to let the metal to the bottom of the pattern gently. We'll see if that affects porosity.

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Stay tuned, the excitement never ends!
 

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Very interesting arrangement you have going there Andy. I'm curious as you are to see how these experiments turn out. No need for an aluminum hammer, I already have #3 and it works well.

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Very interesting arrangement you have going there Andy. I'm curious as you are to see how these experiments turn out. No need for an aluminum hammer, I already have #3 and it works well.

JB

As in lots of things, when I first started, I really didn't know what to do, or why I should do it. Now it's getting to the point at least I seem to have an idea of why I'm doing each part.

I've got some hammers on my list now, I have to get busy making handles. That's the big bottleneck.
 

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Hmm maybe cast aluminum handles with a threaded wedge lock so the heads are interchangeable? :bounce: Always easy to give others more work.

JB
 

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Interesting study on your casting voids. Mr Google sez that much of it can be due to trapped hydrogen gas. That issue can be eliminated if you cast in an argon atmosphere. Apparently your barnyard methane is not concentrated enough to help. Voids can also be caused by gases that are trapped during the pouring. In that case, mold design and pouring strategy can help reduce the voids. It would be interesting to check your muffins for voids since they are cast differently. Anyway, good luck. We are all enjoying our armchair casting.
 

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Andy: since you are BUSY just taking care of the critters and your wife and teaching us how to become blacksmiths I like JB's idea of just shipping the hammer head since you have so many requests and see what handles other members can make. not that your custom hammer shipped and ready to use isn't a very generous offer I agree your time is better spent and most of us will never be able to make a broom!!

carry on and have a great day.

cloudy here with a bit of sun and very little wind and maybe mid 50's. WINDY IN OKLAHOMA?

cheers
 

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Until today I have read 3040 posts in this thread, I am really happy to see that there is at least as many more to read before I catch up, actually it was 4048 when I checked. This story have been better than any TV series to follow. Good stories, I have been learning about new for me things like casting metal, soil conversation and broom making. I see real progress in the cleaning and you have showed us some interesting things and skills.

I like how you show and explain the processes, for me that is more important than the exact details how you it. I can take the process and use it in my way, using the skills I have to solve the problems. I have also seen some practical things like welding, milling and turning that I need to try so I at least understand what problems I can solve that way.

You have showed us some nice looking cars, but I think I like that Coke machine best. :)

I will not read this post or any answer for a while, before that I need to catch up on the story. So no spoilers thanks :bounce: . For now I felt a need to at least check in and tell you that I like what I see.

Have fun learning and cleaning up until I catch up!
 
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Reliable PLUS reusable! :bounce:

I know nothing about them except what I read in the news and it looks like they are doing great.

Hmm maybe cast aluminum handles with a threaded wedge lock so the heads are interchangeable? :bounce: Always easy to give others more work.

JB

Really a nice idea. I really like wood though. But aluminum handles would get production out the door. So then I might get done. What would I do then? I might get bored.

Interesting study on your casting voids. Mr Google sez that much of it can be due to trapped hydrogen gas. That issue can be eliminated if you cast in an argon atmosphere. Apparently your barnyard methane is not concentrated enough to help. Voids can also be caused by gases that are trapped during the pouring. In that case, mold design and pouring strategy can help reduce the voids. It would be interesting to check your muffins for voids since they are cast differently. Anyway, good luck. We are all enjoying our armchair casting.

Mold design and pouring practice are very important. I think I have achieved a process with very low air entrainment.

I'm not sold on hydrogen content in what I'm doing. The commercial foundries hold aluminum molten for extended periods of time and it does absorb hydrogen, I'm sure. At the point of melting, when the aluminum has it's lowest solubility, I think any entrained hydrogen in the ingot will escape. Others contend it builds and builds every time you remelt a batch of metal.

To that end, I am sure the muffins have lots of porosity. Maybe I will cut one up and inspect it. But it does not affect my willingness to use them.

Voids can also be shrink cracks. Those are more complex that simple tensile failure. If there is a high vapor pressure of a gas in the molten metal that can collect and create a void under a slight vacuum, where without the gas the metal would just **** in more liquid from adjacent metal.

I will try to up the "natural" methane in my shop area as you suggest but the cows don't always graze nearby.

Andy: since you are BUSY just taking care of the critters and your wife and teaching us how to become blacksmiths I like JB's idea of just shipping the hammer head since you have so many requests and see what handles other members can make. not that your custom hammer shipped and ready to use isn't a very generous offer I agree your time is better spent and most of us will never be able to make a broom!!

carry on and have a great day.

cloudy here with a bit of sun and very little wind and maybe mid 50's. WINDY IN OKLAHOMA?

cheers

JB made his own handle. Nice idea, Drives.

Thank you.

Anybody want just a hammer head for DIY handles?

Until today I have read 3040 posts in this thread, I am really happy to see that there is at least as many more to read before I catch up, actually it was 4048 when I checked. This story have been better than any TV series to follow. Good stories, I have been learning about new for me things like casting metal, soil conversation and broom making. I see real progress in the cleaning and you have showed us some interesting things and skills.

I like how you show and explain the processes, for me that is more important than the exact details how you it. I can take the process and use it in my way, using the skills I have to solve the problems. I have also seen some practical things like welding, milling and turning that I need to try so I at least understand what problems I can solve that way.

You have showed us some nice looking cars, but I think I like that Coke machine best. :)

I will not read this post or any answer for a while, before that I need to catch up on the story. So no spoilers thanks :bounce: . For now I felt a need to at least check in and tell you that I like what I see.

Have fun learning and cleaning up until I catch up!

WOW! Note to future Patlun: Thanks for taking the time to post on my birthday. I'll be an old man by the time you read this. Your post "way back when" was greatly appreciated.

Spoiler alert: I did not wind up rich and famous. :sad:
 

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Andy: HAPPY BIRTHDAY OLD MAN!!!!!!

are you 70? or is it just another anniversary of your 17th, 18th or 21st Birthdays?

cheers and i'll have a coke if you have one left!!
 

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:thumbup:Well well, another April Birthday, Happy Birthday Andy!! Mine was the 11th, my better half's was the 16th..:thumbup: I hope you enjoyed your day :bounce:
 
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Happy belated 70th birthday Andy! As long as you actually turned 69 last year, maybe you are just holding out on us and you are going for a victory lap at 69.

JB
 

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Happy belated birthday Andy. Or now that you are old should I be calling you Mr. Martin. LOL

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Happy Birthday dear brother Andy!
Sorry about the card I didj't send. It's on my calendar but I was out most of the day.

Thanks big brother. Hmm, big brother. Is that why you asked for all my passwords, big brother?

Happy Birthday!

Thank you!

Happy birthday Andy.

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Thanks, mate!

Andy: HAPPY BIRTHDAY OLD MAN!!!!!!

are you 70? or is it just another anniversary of your 17th, 18th or 21st Birthdays?

cheers and i'll have a coke if you have one left!!

The Dean of Garage Journal! Nothing about 70 sounds young. Machine is freshly filled.

Happy Birthday my Very Old Friend.


Thanks! And I intend to stay older than you.

Happy birthday Andy enjoy your day

Thanks, Steve. I have a very good day, in fact.

Have a top day Andy! :thumbup:

Thank you!

Belated.....

But hopefully you had a great day Andy.

Happy Birthday

I'm still 70, so your wishes are not late. Thank you.

:thumbup:Well well, another April Birthday, Happy Birthday Andy!! Mine was the 11th, my better half's was the 16th..:thumbup: I hope you enjoyed your day :bounce:

Interesting! My sister is the 21st, but Nikita Khrushchev was on the 17th. We weren't close, however.

I did enjoy the day.

Happy Birthday, Andy! Hope you had a wonderful day.

Exceptionally wonderful!

Happy Birthday Andy!!!!


Vince

Thanks, Vince!

Another year older and none the wiser? Happy birthday, sir.

Definitely no wiser. My wife has always admired me for being a wise guy but she has the philosophy that you can have too much of a good thing so it has been best to limit my vast wisdom.

Happy belated 70th birthday Andy! As long as you actually turned 69 last year, maybe you are just holding out on us and you are going for a victory lap at 69.

JB

Thanks, JB! I think it's really 70. It certainly feels like it should be 35 or something less insane. But this retirement stuff of having six Saturdays is really pretty cool.

Best belated birthday wishes. May you have many more to celebrate.

Thank you very much!

Almost forgot, welcome to the Sevens club.

Thanks, Bob. I heard a guy say one time "I'm 84, nobody wants to be 84, except those who are 83". It seemed funny at the time. Now it just seems close...

Happy Birthday Andy!
(been doing as I've been told- watch, listen and keep ya mouth shut)

Thank you. I've been told those same words, but sadly I did not grasp what they were trying to tell me.

:beer: Happy birthday Andy! Many more years to you sir!

Thank you!!

Happy belated birthday Andy. Or now that you are old should I be calling you Mr. Martin. LOL

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Mr. artin seems appropriate from a kid like you.:spit:

Happy Birthday Andy 🎂
Hope you had a great day.

Steve :beer:

It was a top day, Steve!

Happy birthday Andy!
Pete

Thanks, Pete.

Happy birthday Andy! Hope your metal runs hot and your gas never runs out.

Round number too from the looks of it. Hope you had a great day.

Thanks, Eugene! You've never been in a confined space with me, however, or you would not wish my gas to never run out.

It is an oddly round number. I'm getting primed for next year.

A very happy birthday. Unlike you know who, your card is in the mail. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave correct?


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Thanks, Shorty! Actually not my address, but my bud will hand it to me.

Thanks again for all the well wishes, and from those who would have but didn't. The thought is appreciated.
 
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Agreed 110%. I'm a big fan, and especially of LFTR liquid fluoride reactors. No runaway is possible. That's a rabbit hole of research right there.

Irrational fear has about doomed nuclear power, except for those which are humming right along, and the Navy.

Still, I prefer to not live adjacent to one.
 
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I've been busy. Too busy to post, that is frustrating, and too tired in the evening.

I did get the first pharmacy shelf finished. That's right, totally finished and delivered.:shocking:

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And they started filling it.

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Now I just need to knock three more out.

I have a 5 acre pen next to the house I raise heifers in. We call it the heifer pen. If you got lost, PM me and I'll explain it.

Anyway green grass is coming on fast and it's time to quit feeding the cows. At the same time I wanted to worm them and wean the four largest calves. Serendipitously they all came in to eat the last day of feeding (15th) so I penned them up. I decided to put them in the heifer pen and let them graze it down. They will eat some of the tender young weeds. It hadn't been grazed and they enjoyed it immensely.

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A beautiful time of the year. Callie loves to play so she went out to play with some baby calves.

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They have their bluff in on her, she runs up and they just give that old contractor stare.

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Here's the view from the road. I like this part of life. Caring for cattle and seeing them happy, having land and using it well. Not worrying about tall grass on the fence line.

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We had gone to town to get lunch. And stuff. When we got back I was checking the cows and found they had not all, indeed, come in. OK, so I didn't count them. Bad farmer. I had fed my last bag of feed and had no way to draw these into the pen so I just walked behind them and kept circling until they went into the pen. It was a nice time to be in the pasture.

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Those are the nine tractors which burned up in my shop 30 years ago. They were all in nice shape, and all in the shop when I lost it. Life goes on, enjoy the good sunny days and get over a little drama as quickly as you can.

Thanks for looking in!
 

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I can't imagine a shop fire. Good friends/farmers had one, before I was born. Still recollecting some things.

Luckily ig almost all of my cordless are in the basement, although there's nothing saying your house couldn't go up.
 

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Happy birthday buddy we are now the same age for a few months :beer:

I saw the pic from the street you posted and flashed back in my mine of our visit to the farm and you on the phone with me saying I see you , you are in a black truck. that is exactly the spot were I started looking for you.
It sure was a nice visit. I'm working on finding the right spot to hang up the SKELLY sign you donated to the party garage and thank you again for a fun and memorable morning

Don
 
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Who want sot see more foundry pictures? Don't everybody speak at once. OK, there's one positive response, that's enough!!

Still using my worn out crucible. See the aluminum oozing out the hole on the left side? It oxidizes and turns to aluminum oxide, which is tough and hard. It melts at 3,762F, a little higher than my flame temperature.:thumbup:

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Some guy wants me to make a lock bolt for his vise. 5/8" 10 TPI. That's oddball.:headscrat

Turned it out of a 1" sucker rod.

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Then went to clamp it in the mill to cross drill it, and don't have a V block which will hold it and allow a gap for drilling. So I decided to modify my home made ones. Not made in my home, and the sides are not straight and parallel. They are usable as is but since I want to use a different side to make a shallower set I need to true these up. Thought I'd mill a V like this.

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But the ends are not parallel, and the back is not parallel with the V.

So I set the V on a round rod. The V's are not parallel with the back face :shocking: So I used the rod and milled the back parallel with the rod.

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Once the back was parallel I can mill the sides. The rod is held up with a parallel bar and the assembly clamped. Now it's ready to skim the first side.

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More later! Thanks for stopping by.
 

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I can't imagine a shop fire. Good friends/farmers had one, before I was born. Still recollecting some things.

Luckily ig almost all of my cordless are in the basement, although there's nothing saying your house couldn't go up.

You are some guy, the fire was a biggie. Lifetime collection of tools gone, 9 tractors, gone, 37 Plymouth coupe gone, CAT D-2 gone, complete woodshop gone. For years I would look for something then realize it was before the fire.

I did have clean clothes in the morning.

Andy
Happy birthday buddy we are now the same age for a few months :beer:

I saw the pic from the street you posted and flashed back in my mine of our visit to the farm and you on the phone with me saying I see you , you are in a black truck. that is exactly the spot were I started looking for you.
It sure was a nice visit. I'm working on finding the right spot to hang up the SKELLY sign you donated to the party garage and thank you again for a fun and memorable morning

Don

You seem so much older.:beer: Maybe it's because you exhibit maturity and wisdom.:lol_hitti

A very fun visit. I am looking forward to you next one.
 
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