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Thanks! The thread mystifies me. I couldn't find any metric threads which were close. But I didn't check British standards. The old one would screw into a 5/8"-11 nut 2-1/2 turns so I machined this one until it would go in the same nut a little over two turns.

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If that is a 55* thread then most likely BSW (Whitworth). Brief info here, http://www.boltscience.com/pages/screw4.htm .

A bit more info here, https://britishfasteners.com/threads/bsw.html

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Andy: without a DADO blade how did you make those cuts in the wood so you could make that glass box? i'm guessing since it looks like you are using a table saw that you just kept moving the fence in an 1/8th until you had a 1/2 or 3/4 inch wide cut?

i'm guessing with all this glass breaking that you are learning which method of setting up your molds for pours is getting more exact?

hope your SUNDAY was restful!!
 
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If that is a 55* thread then most likely BSW (Whitworth). Brief info here, http://www.boltscience.com/pages/screw4.htm .

A bit more info here, https://britishfasteners.com/threads/bsw.html

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I thought about a Whitworth, but they look rounded and this was sharp. May have been home made by someone with Whitworth experience.

Andy: without a DADO blade how did you make those cuts in the wood so you could make that glass box? i'm guessing since it looks like you are using a table saw that you just kept moving the fence in an 1/8th until you had a 1/2 or 3/4 inch wide cut?

Did I lead you to believe I don't have a dado blade? That's how I made them. I have a conventional stack blade but this was an adjustable wobble style blade. You'll notice the saw insert has an extra wide opening for a dado. I have made multiple cuts when I'm too lazy to change blades.
i'm guessing with all this glass breaking that you are learning which method of setting up your molds for pours is getting more exact?

hope your SUNDAY was restful!!

Yes, I'm learning how to make better quality castings.

Huh, hopefully the SIL was up there with you.

SIL is two years older than me and not in good health. He has never been a high places guy but now he has dizzy spells so we don't want to break him. He's raising three grandchildren.

Thanks for the visits, guys.

Anybody recognize this tool?

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Nope.

Looks interesting though.

Wild guess as cannot really get grip on size, would be a separator or “cutter” of some sort.

Sure it would be a simple answer though.
 

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Hi Andy,

Still following and enjoying your exploits. I'm slap in the middle of (re)building an outbuilding that I purchased second hand. Exactly the same roofing tiles which I'll need to cap. I'll be sure to be thinking of your approach when up on my roof!!

Craig
 

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Peat cutter?

If so, are you going to add distilling to your list of talents? But I wonder how you'll be able to perfect the flavor of the scotch without sampling it...
 

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SIL is two years older than me and not in good health. He has never been a high places guy but now he has dizzy spells so we don't want to break him. He's raising three grandchildren.

Ahhh, I shouldn't have assumed. That's fair.
Good on you for helping, regardless. Some of those church roofs are scary-steep.
 
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Nope.

Looks interesting though.

Wild guess as cannot really get grip on size, would be a separator or “cutter” of some sort.

Sure it would be a simple answer though.

I can't figure it out. A guy on the tractor forum said it's a carpet stretcher. That may be a stretch.

Hi Andy,

Still following and enjoying your exploits. I'm slap in the middle of (re)building an outbuilding that I purchased second hand. Exactly the same roofing tiles which I'll need to cap. I'll be sure to be thinking of your approach when up on my roof!!

Craig

Hi Craig! Hope you had as good of luck as I did.

Looks like a cheese cutter.

Well, I don't need one then, I already cut the cheese quite well, thank you. I've been told I have Olympic potential.

Andy, that looks like a left-handed tent wrench to me. I've never actually owned or seen one but I've been told they look like that.

I've always wanted one. You know when you go camping and select a spot it's all pre-tents until you use your tent wrench to set one up.

Peat cutter?

If so, are you going to add distilling to your list of talents? But I wonder how you'll be able to perfect the flavor of the scotch without sampling it...

Seems small for a peat cutter. That may be. If I make Scotch will I have more friends?

Ahhh, I shouldn't have assumed. That's fair.
Good on you for helping, regardless. Some of those church roofs are scary-steep.

The roof in the distance is as steep as you want without tie off. You can walk to the ridge but don't stop. Coming down is easy.

The steeple was lightening struck several years ago. Me and one other guy replaced the steeple. He ran the crane. It was a job to get it leveled because you have to go from one side to the other, which is tedious.

My stainless steel crucible is getting well worn. It cracks me up. Lots of solid gunk inside so it doesn't leak.

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But the holes in the side are getting worse.

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A poke with a welding rod and I had a 3/8" hole.:shocking:

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It seemed prudent to make a new one. I have materials to make four.

Welding on the bottom.

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At a start-stop I noticed a small hole so I ground it out. The best way to weld up a hole made during welding is to grind it back to get rid of the slag.

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It got bigger in the middle of the weld, which is why it's a bad idea to try to weld over it.

Ground paper thin in the middle, new weld will burn through and make it full penetration.

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And welded out. I have used it five times so far.

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Thanks for posting the videos of your castings. I appreciate you taking the time to set it all up and especially the comments. I dont understand all I dont know about the whole process, but I am learning a little more each time.
I am amazed at how happy it makes you when somebody tells you to "pack sand" and you never seem to mind.:lol_hitti
Did you happen to keep count of how many heat cycles you had on the old crucible before it became unusable?
 
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Mash tater utensil. Chop tater then mash ‘em. Lol.

I can see where it’s an early version of a carpet stretcher. Long part being a lever that pulls the “rake”

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The non-wooden handle has a square head nail through it. I almost think it had an iron backed wooden handle on that side. When you fold it down the two handles net nicely, which would let a craftsman slip it in his pocket between rooms.

Thanks for posting the videos of your castings. I appreciate you taking the time to set it all up and especially the comments. I dont understand all I dont know about the whole process, but I am learning a little more each time.
I am amazed at how happy it makes you when somebody tells you to "pack sand" and you never seem to mind.:lol_hitti
Did you happen to keep count of how many heat cycles you had on the old crucible before it became unusable?

I'm with you, I don't understand what's going on either.

I did bust my glass again. I'm running out of glass.

 
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We're having weather today.

I don't like it when storm chasers run up and down our road looking for tornadoes.

Any GJ members who are nearby and may have heard Terlton mentioned, storms have passed us. As it was bearing down on us Sharon asked for lunch. I went ahead and fixed lunch even though we might not have needed it. She said she wanted to die with a full belly. I guess that's OK, but it still seems like a waste of food. They issued an alert to take cover but we can't see the TV from the hallway so we stayed put.

Real break-your-bones weather.
 

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Andy, wondered how you was doing as I watched it head your way. We seem to keep close watch on them in my part of the state. Will probably be watching the rest of the day

Dwight
 
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Andy,glad the winds passed without incident, hope you managed to hang onto your hat ?. Go(o)d work on the church roof, time well spent keeping in the Big Mans* good books .
When I'm feeling lazy, I just slacken the nut holding the blade on, and put a piece of sandpaper behind it , the more folded the paper the wider the dado.:thumbup:

Have a less breezy week.
Steve:beer:



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You might have to take shelter in the caboose, although it would probably fly away, too.

Hopefully you have a basement. :beer:

I don't know, I think a train car rarely goes far in a tornado. I could be wrong. Of course. Sometime I'm bound to be wrong.

We do not have a basement. But we have little fear of tornadoes. They are pretty small and it's a pretty big world. I've never actually seen one live, and I'm just dying to.

The tool is a carpet stretcher from the 19th century. Not sure if this link will work but they have one there. It works for me :thumbup:
Vince
https://www.belowstairs.co.uk/acatalog/Antique Patent Capert Stretchers CS2.jpg

Thanks, Vince, you take much better pictures.

Andy, wondered how you was doing as I watched it head your way. We seem to keep close watch on them in my part of the state. Will probably be watching the rest of the day

Dwight

It did look like a direct hit there for a while. Sharon said she'd just stay in front of the TV. I started getting a little nervous.

Andy,glad the winds passed without incident, hope you managed to hang onto your hat ?. Go(o)d work on the church roof, time well spent keeping in the Big Mans* good books .
When I'm feeling lazy, I just slacken the nut holding the blade on, and put a piece of sandpaper behind it , the more folded the paper the wider the dado.:thumbup:

Have a less breezy week.
Steve:beer:



* It's a woman.

I have my hat. And my shed. I know what it's like to lose my shed in a fire, I can't imagine trying to find everything in my neighbor's pasture and woods. I might not ever find my thread gauge.

I thought paper shims came with dadoes?:headscrat Do you have a wobble dado? Can't shim them.

(She spared me)

Thanks for the comments, guys.
 
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I thought paper shims came with dadoes? Do you have a wobble dado? Can't shim them.

No wobble dado blade, I make my own by folding a piece of paper up and putting it behind the blade, the thicker the paper the wider the cut. :beer:

Yeah, I was joking about them coming with paper. It is just pretty standard. I don't really like the wobble dadoes but they are so quick to set up.
 

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Glad you were able to stay clear of the bad weather Andy. A couple of friends near Ozark, Mo. were a little closer to the action yesterday, they are all fine luckily. The only tornado I've seen was while I was in a cotton field in SE Mo. only plants and pocket books were damaged.

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Andy glad the wind didn't blow in but blowing your way who knows what it could have delivered by way of junk?

You think I would pick through debris to see what I could use?:mad:

Well, maybe good stuff.:headscrat

OK, of course I would. :willy_nil

Glad you were able to stay clear of the bad weather Andy. A couple of friends near Ozark, Mo. were a little closer to the action yesterday, they are all fine luckily. The only tornado I've seen was while I was in a cotton field in SE Mo. only plants and pocket books were damaged.

JB

"I never picked cotton, but my mother did, and my brother did, and my sister did, and my daddy died young".

I like Ozark, Mo.

I have been Dallas the last few days. Wish you were closer to the border. Glad y’all faired well during storm. Jim Cantore has been on top of it. [emoji15]


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Wish I was closer to the border? You couldn't have hit me anyway.

Did you fly up? Would have been nice to meet you.
 
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I stopped by the glass company yesterday. Big company, receptionist said "you need to talk to Jack."

Jack looked at my video and said he'd cut me some glass free of charge. After we visited it turns out he know my brother-in-law, SIL, and used to play ball on our ball diamond. Made a friend. He is a 40 years glass man and has worked around tempering ovens. He told me what I was doing was way out of his experience. :lol_hitti

I told him about trying to home temper and he said not too hard to do, just have to get the temperatures right, then the right amount of air to quench with. They cut anything not tempered and throw lots of glass in the dumpster. They mainly do large buildings and move a lot of glass. Check them out Apax Glass

Jack is one of the principals and seemed willing to take plenty of time to visit. He's got things in order.

We looked at their scrap trolley and he found four pieces of 1/4" annealed for me to try. 9-1/2" by 28".

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When I welded the spout on my new crucible I got a little excess penetration (OK, a lot) and couldn't drill it out. I sharpened the same three drill six times each trying to get through. Finally figured out I did have a rotary file the right size to reach in. A rat tail file chucked in a drill and turned in reverse very slowly.

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Look at them chips!:bounce:

Been adding to my ingot stockpile, need to find another rat hole.

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And had a little time to work on a new project.

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Almost ready for mud.
 

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Andy: so you now have FREE GLASS to go with your FREE GAS? you also get good SCRAP DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR? yep I'd say life is good in your world and just getting better all the time. sounds like you had a great time at the glass company with it's owner too.

hope your bride is still smiling and maybe even laughing at your jokes too.

just curious when you are doing the testing when the glass breaks and you've got hot aluminum and glass (now contained) in a small area do you try to save the aluminum to remelt or clean it all up and just throw it in the trash with the sand and glass?

was their some mention of a TORNADO or was that in MISSOURI? my daughter didn't mention any so maybe a few hours north of her too.

sunny and almost no wind yesterday and hopefully more of the same today.

i'm getting ready soon to play with sand, but mine is to use to make brick paths and planting areas to pots on.

enjoy your SATURDAY!!!
 

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Yes, I fly up. 2-1/2 day trip. No free time. Hate when work gets in the way of fun. That was great that Jack took some time to help out so you can continue with your “ cool” glass video production.
Looking forward to see how you set up the guide holder for casting.



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I hate to admit your reply to me didn't ring a bell at first then I looked it up. For all the others out there:
I Never Picked Cotton- Johnny Cash

It was a little obtuse. You mentioned a cotton field (with tornado) and I started humming that tune.:lol_hitti

I remember Roy Clark singing it.

Andy: so you now have FREE GLASS to go with your FREE GAS? you also get good SCRAP DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR? yep I'd say life is good in your world and just getting better all the time. sounds like you had a great time at the glass company with it's owner too.

hope your bride is still smiling and maybe even laughing at your jokes too.

just curious when you are doing the testing when the glass breaks and you've got hot aluminum and glass (now contained) in a small area do you try to save the aluminum to remelt or clean it all up and just throw it in the trash with the sand and glass?

was their some mention of a TORNADO or was that in MISSOURI? my daughter didn't mention any so maybe a few hours north of her too.

sunny and almost no wind yesterday and hopefully more of the same today.

i'm getting ready soon to play with sand, but mine is to use to make brick paths and planting areas to pots on.

enjoy your SATURDAY!!!

Free stuff is good.:bounce:

I save the aluminum. Glass will separate from molten aluminum.

There were several tornadoes around. One hit Cushing SW of us, tore up a shop an acquaintance works in, we're doing a deal together. Nice guy.

We're having great weather between the storms.

Yes, I fly up. 2-1/2 day trip. No free time. Hate when work gets in the way of fun. That was great that Jack took some time to help out so you can continue with your “ cool” glass video production.
Looking forward to see how you set up the guide holder for casting.

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Work got in my way a lot so I just quit. Good decision.

I cast your guide today. Here it is with the sprue attached, and extended bosses for the setscrews to be machined off later.

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Most of the casting came out great.

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It must have been too cool. I did not think so, of course me being wrong is why it failed.:lol_hitti

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We'll get it next time. Probably next week.

Thanks for the comments, guys!
 

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File in a drill solution is my kinda win.

Loving it.

Whatever it takes, Rian!

Today and tomorrow I'm at the Oklahoma Steam Thresher's Association show in Pawnee. I'm volunteering to operate the Corliss steam engine for two hours each day. The engine and generator were installed in the Blackwell Zinc Company smelter in 1912 and operated the plant with their twin until the plant closed down in 1973. Big and slow, the cylinder is 20" by 36" stroke. I'm looking forward to it.
 

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I am extremely envious of your chance to play with a big steam engine. Take lots of pictures and report back.

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I am extremely envious of your chance to play with a big steam engine. Take lots of pictures and report back.

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I almost bout a 65 hp Case steam tractor, twenty years or so ago. I would have had to build a shed for it, and wanting to keep it at home instead of the fairgrounds, would need a semi and trailer to haul it, and licensing and insurance. Then it takes an hour to get it out of storage and fired up, and a couple of hours to clean it out and prepare for storage, all for a 30 minute drive around the pasture. I talked myself out of it. Sometimes I wished I hadn't. If I would only take the time every tractor needs a volunteer to help out. But time is at a premium.

This big old stationary engine is cool.

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And my job was fireman.

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Burning sawmill slabs from the steam powered sawmill.

This guy was running around all day.

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Today's another day firing the boiler. :bounce:

Well the casting looks pretty good but came up a little “short”. Not a problem.
The show probably a lot like our Flywheelers.

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I imagine it's a lot like Florida Flywheelers. Used to have a steam train but it got sold of in hard times years ago.

Short is not a problem. It gave me a chance to section and have a look.

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The big piece is the bottom of the sprue, pretty clean. The other is obvious. If you can't figure it out PM me. Coldest part of the pour, a few specks which are pretty big considering the size of the members. Had it poured, the nubs on the end of the piece were intended to be an area to flush trash. Next time we'll see.

Glad to hear you have a local steam show. I've been going to two by me as long as I can remember. Sycamore, IL & Edgerton, WI

It's fun but there are many years I don't go. I haven't taken a tractor in years. I took my broom machine to this one several times but then they wanted to move me into a remote building where I couldn't see anything while making brooms so I declined. My loss.
 

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Many years ago I was actually Fireman myself, but that was on an 0-4-0 Saddle tank locomotive, back in UK.

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