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zkling

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Zkling, Next year I will try to sell the complete buiness with machines, if that don't happen maybe I can find a shop that would buy the websites and all my jigs and fixtures. Wilton has let their customers down and have sent customers to me where it was to much. It's a money maker but gotta have the right person to run it, need to know vises. If the Columbian jaws were added then oh boy, a whole new website just for them. Get calls and e-mails everyday for Columbian jaws. OH, I bought a Bridgeport for my new home, can't be without a mill and welder.

Interesting, hope that goes smoothly. I agree on having to have a mill and welder at home. I now remember you posting the bridgeport you bought.

Looks like your site is down, specifically the gallery of restored vises. Will you be bringing that back? Any plans to take down your wordpress site? I stole a few fixture ideas from there.
 

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Thanks, I’ve got a little no.18 hitting the door tomorrow. It’s a first generation with the fat meatball and the lettering on top behind the swivel jaw. It might not be as clean as the one that guy is holding up in his backyard but it’s pretty close. I’ll post up when it arrives.
 

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Interesting, hope that goes smoothly. I agree on having to have a mill and welder at home. I now remember you posting the bridgeport you bought.

Looks like your site is down, specifically the gallery of restored vises. Will you be bringing that back? Any plans to take down your wordpress site? I stole a few fixture ideas from there.

If my websites sell the new owner will have rights to the Word Press sites. I should make one for the vise restorations since the new owner might not sell vises like I did. Restorations will be my hobby where I can make a few bucks. I record all work done on my vise restorations and might interest a few guys like yourself. Thanks zkling.
 

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Smitty - that’s a nice group of Prentiss vises. Which is your favorite of the lot?
 

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Thanks. As I look at the photo I can’t really choose a favorite. I’ve been gravitating toward the smaller vises in the 3” size range and that’s what these shelves will be primarily used for. I will say that out of all the vises I have there is a Prentiss no. 22 that is my favorite, it’s bolted to my main bench.
 

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Smitty:
So, hypothetically, if somebody came into your shop and removed either your Prentiss 22 or your Reed 4C, which one would you miss the most?
 

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It’s funny that you put it that way. The 22 is still my favorite but the 4C is a really close second.
 

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Why settle for just 30?

Another ad in the Chicago area on Craigslist offers 72 ! (Picture below)

It’s a couple of weeks old so maybe a lot of them are sold, but what’s up with bulk sales there? Is the market peaking and guys are liquidating their collections? Or is it just that collectors like me are now past 70 y.o. and maybe getting too old or sick to continue and/or have to move into assisted living? Or is it the heirs unloading Dad’s vise hoard? :dunno:
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Not sure tbh. Theres a guy on the north side of Chicago that always post the same vise(s) he wants a arm and a leg, that's why they never move.
 

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Smitty outstanding display! Shelves are a great way to show off of a lot of them in a single picture and they save a ton of floor space. :thumbup:

P.s. looks like you're out of room so maybe time for another set of shelves
 
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thought I was done for the holidays as far as vises were concerned but...
4 1/2" jaws and 77 lbs so guessing under all that surface rust is a Craftsman 5197. Now I think I'm done .....
 

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Smitty

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Thanks Bob, filling the shelves is half the fun.
Nice find on that 5197, it looks like somebody really took care of it over the years.
 

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This is one of my vises. Its missing the bar. Anyone know where I can buy one?
 

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losdudes

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I just found a Reed 206R that is missing some parts. The main nut and what holds it in place, also the collar assembly that hold the screw to dynamic jaw. Both jaws are fine. The handle is straight but both ends need work as someone welded them. Anyone have a parts source for this monster?
 

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I just found a Reed 206R that is missing some parts. The main nut and what holds it in place, also the collar assembly that hold the screw to dynamic jaw. Both jaws are fine. The handle is straight but both ends need work as someone welded them. Anyone have a parts source for this monster?
There is a guy near me here in Arizona who is selling a previously repaired Reed 106R for $100. The split nut (screw in collar), handle and leadscrew assembly and presumably the main nut all appear to be in good shape. The dynamic jaw assembly is probably fine as well. The static vise body was broken and welded to a heavy metal plate.

If the parts would be worth $100 plus shipping to you PM me and we'll see if we can make it work. 807d0856a6b6662f53cc1e910b7ec7cf.jpg02ce9fddd51934131850e795def5a2b3.jpg

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Navigo

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Hello, Garage Journal.
Thank you for many ideas, abundant useful information and a lot of fun.

Here are my metalworking vises. Wilton 3.5" and C3. Just finished a stand for C3 yesterday and cannot resist bragging about it.
 

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Interesting, hope that goes smoothly. I agree on having to have a mill and welder at home. I now remember you posting the bridgeport you bought.

Looks like your site is down, specifically the gallery of restored vises. Will you be bringing that back? Any plans to take down your wordpress site? I stole a few fixture ideas from there.

Where is this Wordpress site that you speak of? :headscrat
 

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There is a guy near me here in Arizona who is selling a previously repaired Reed 106R for $100. The split nut (screw in collar), handle and leadscrew assembly and presumably the main nut all appear to be in good shape. The dynamic jaw assembly is probably fine as well. The static vise body was broken and welded to a heavy metal plate.

If the parts would be worth $100 plus shipping to you PM me and we'll see if we can make it work. 807d0856a6b6662f53cc1e910b7ec7cf.jpg02ce9fddd51934131850e795def5a2b3.jpg

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Pm sent, thanks
 

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I'm not sure anyone else is that interested in why some Littlestown Hardware and Foundry vises are marked "NEW YORK" when the outfit was located in Pennsy, but I could not find any evidence of them ever being primarily located there or moving from there to Pennsy. I did find something indirect and tertiary - their trucker running afoul of the state, RR, and union - that kinda sorta indicates they may have had an office (warehouse, distribution point, etc) in New York.

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Welcome Navigo! Nice Wiltons you've got there. Good job with the stand. Is that for blacksmithing?


Smitty: That sure is a great method of displaying your Prentiss vises! Really envy you guys living in areas where great old vises are plentiful.
 
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Shiftless

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Regarding Lugz posting

“...these products break easily”

Is that from the loss records when too many vises don’t make it to the final destination because they “fell off the truck”? (Wink, wink) ;)
 
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Mark in Indiana

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Merry Christmas Vise Friends!
Here's the latest bench vise restoration: Jet 4" Workshop vise, manufactured by Wilton.
 

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Productbob

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Smitty & Mr. W thanks, came out of a defunct motorcycle repair shop. Doesn't look like it got much use, just got ignored. Will try and find the date and post it on 5197/5198 thread after Christmas.

Mark nice job on the Wilton!

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!
 

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I finally found a suitable work bench for the snap on vise..... now just to rip it all apart and paint it to match.......

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I'm not sure anyone else is that interested in why some Littlestown Hardware and Foundry vises are marked "NEW YORK" when the outfit was located in Pennsy, but I could not find any evidence of them ever being primarily located there or moving from there to Pennsy. I did find something indirect and tertiary - their trucker running afoul of the state, RR, and union - that kinda sorta indicates they may have had an office (warehouse, distribution point, etc) in New York.


Drilling down a little further,
If Columbian Malleable is the Grey Iron Casting Company possibly known as Columbia Gray Irom
per
http://www.safebankcollector.com/grey-iron-casting-company

a possible New York connection
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John W Eshleman alleged that on June 26, 1914 he entered into an oral agreement with W. A. Coventry, G. Ellsworth Higgins and I. R. Stewart to buy, sixty-two and a half shares of the capital stock of the Grey Iron Casting Company which represented one quarter of the total stock. Stock appears never to have exchanged hands. Coventry was in Lancaster, but Higgins and Stewart were in New York. As of 1921 this issue was still ******* in the courts due to questions surrounding jurisdiction.*****

all records lost.

looking at EBay seems the New York stamped vices were in the Prentiss style, no anvil horn, while the PA style took advantage of the pipe jaws for gas pipe (?). Guess on my part.

akasrick

All a very quick read on my part as to the company lineage
 
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I just "found" the same vise (by fait accompli - it was inside a toolbox I bought) this morning at the flea market, Red. Tiny. 1-7/8" jaws. And it won't even clamp on my bench. Found your old, old post in a search. And I think Outlaw has an even smaller exposed screw rail type clamp-on Littlestown No. 1.

Question is: Does anyone know when Littlestown Hardware and Foundry moved from New York to Pennsylvania?

Feeding off of the information from akasrick, I was able to find your answer.

Before WWII, New York was put into the casting because of F. G. Acomb, who was a hardware sales manager responsible for New York, NY. Although the castings were made in Littlestown, he thought the items would be easier to sell and have more prestige with New York on the hardware.

source of information: EARLY HISTORY OF THE LITTLESTOWN HARDWARE & FOUNDRY CO., INC.
By Luther D. Snyder 11/13/1979

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Before WWII, New York was put into the casting because of F. G. Acomb, who was a hardware sales manager responsible for New York, NY. Although the castings were made in Littlestown, he thought the items would be easier to sell and have more prestige with New York on the hardware.

source of information: EARLY HISTORY OF THE LITTLESTOWN HARDWARE & FOUNDRY CO., INC.
By Luther D. Snyder 11/13/1979

:thumbup:

akasrick
 

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Smitty:
So, hypothetically, if somebody came into your shop and removed either your Prentiss 22 or your Reed 4C, which one would you miss the most?

Better think about adding some extra security Smitty...we might have a rouge vise Pirate on our hands! :shocking:

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It’s funny that you put it that way. The 22 is still my favorite but the 4C is a really close second.

Interesting you say that Smitty. I haven't put my 22 to work yet, but I do have a No95 (5.25") on my main bench. While I do enjoy using it, I find that the long handle can be a hindrance when holding heavy work pieces with one hand and trying to operate the handle with the other, as you have to be pretty far away from the vise to allow room for the handle to swing round.

Sometimes a smaller vise is much more convenient and easier to use, although it doesn't offer the clamping force or surface area that the big girls do....making quick changes seems to require less input from me. :beer:
 

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Jonshonda, I have the same problem with my Columbian 608 handle.---In the winter it catches my coat with every turn.---This makes it difficult when I am trying to clamp something at an exact depth or point on the item in question, or it's something real heavy and my left arm is already trembling.---But I do like that big old vise, so I'll just have tolerate the long handle.
 

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Merry Christmas everyone.

I hope this message finds everyone doing well and enjoying their vise collections heading into a new decade still searching for the elusive "one" to say "I got it!"
 

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Intruders usually get to see my Parker shotgun collection before they make it to the vises.
I hear what you’re saying about small parts in big vises. I have various sizes and even a beater bolted down for whatever comes up.
 
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