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rwhite692

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Here is another one that I am working on, It's a 5" YOST, Model 33C.

96 pounds of goodness.

The guy who had sold it to the seller with a bunch of other stuff, told me that it had followed him home from Mare Island Naval Shipyard, when the yard closed in the mid 1990s.

At the time I purchased it, I had my doubts about the screw condition, as did the seller (thought it was most likely stripped out) because the jaw would only start to move after about two full revolutions of the handle. For that reason, I almost passed on it, but after we talked, the seller offered it at a low enough price that I decided to take a chance on it.

I didn't mount it to my bench to use it, for fear of it breaking if I tried to really tighten it, so, since bringing it home, it's been sitting under my bench waiting it's turn for some attention.

I took it apart the other day and it was a nice surprise to find that the problem was not a bad screw, but that the stop collar on the backside of the front jaw had simply become loose (the set screw) and had slipped back about 3/8".

The original color paint appears to be similar to "Evinrude outboard motor metallic light blue".

So anyway, it's all apart now and soaking in a bath of Castrol super clean, dissolving all the grease which had turned to a clay-like black crust. It should clean up real nice.

The jaws are in great shape. I need to get a set of pipe jaws for it, as they are missing (they are still available from YOST, but, at 100 clams...ouch!). Anyone on GJ have a set?

The pipe jaws can be seen in the photo of a new 33C, below (YOST still sells the same model#, today).

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jonny o

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$20 CL find. Was at the guys house to look at a bench grinder that I didn't haul home and this was a great secondary find.

What's the intended purpose for this type of flat faced vices? Going to be great for woodworking. And holding the floor down.

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rwhite692

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Jonny O, I have heard of vises of that style being referred to as "chipping" vises, possibly referring to hand-chipping of keyways, cold chisel trimming work on raw castings, etc, although I don't know the reason why the narrow vise structure is considered to be helpful. Maybe it is because the narrow jaws don't get in the way as much?
 

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Jonny O, I have heard of vises of that style being referred to as "chipping" vises, possibly referring to hand-chipping of keyways, cold chisel trimming work on raw castings, etc, although I don't know the reason why the narrow vise structure is considered to be helpful. Maybe it is because the narrow jaws don't get in the way as much?

jonny o, that is a tin smith's vise.

Also known as a sheet metal vise.

http://www.yostvises.com/sheetmetal.htm

Thanks Gents, I'll be doing some homework. Took another look at it last night and it seems to have removable jaws with about 20 coats of paint over them. I just bought it on the size versus price scale, and the fact that it was made pretty close to where I grew up.
 

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now does anybody have any history on this vise? I dont know anything about it, other then its heavy and big, 8" jaw
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anybody have any info on this thing? all we have come to know is that another member on here has one that looks like it and his says poland on it, but mine has no markings at all
 

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My good buddy Tarbaby fished on of the FJT style vises out of the scrap yard a few days ago. Badly used/abused, the outer jaw was broken completely off the thing, cracked, the back collar loose, everything beat, sawed, rusty. I thought I could fix it, started yesterday morning. by far the thickest thing I ever welded, I V'd cleaned, etc. I think it will hold. Tarbaby called me last night and GAVE it to me, said "It didn't like weld". I told him that I just kept turning the amps up till I heard the Dam chug,(I live close to a TVA/Alcoa hydro plant.) Passed the BFH with a FOS test, wish me luck!
 

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Just got this vise today!

It was free and it works perfectly!

I think Im going to blast it and paint it..

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Any manufacturer marks on it?Looks to be a definite copy of a Record vise.Usually a number 1 Record would have about 2-3"jaws.
 

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This one isn't mine but was for sale on kijiji recently.It sold before I could pick it up.I post it because some members have an interest in Tecomaster tools and they pop up rather rarely.It's the only Tecomaster vise I've come across.
 

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Its got 3'' jaws no marks other then the #1 and the M.75

When I first looked at it it thought it was a reccord also.
 

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Here is mine. I found it in the basement at an estate sale in Minneapolis, MN. It was bolted to a work bench w/ a $10 price on it..... but since it was Sunday afternoon it was 1/2 off! I stood next to it while one of the sale workers fetched a wrench so I could unbolt it.

It is a Monarch No. 219. I have yet to find any information on it.
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Ocular Engineer

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Looks like it may have been manufactured by Prentiss. A monarch vise is discussed here:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-history/monarch-prentiss-vise-167132/

Thanks for the info, rwhite!
I've got to say that I just love the quality and solid feel that I get every time that I lock something down it it's jaws. The thing is like brand new. All I did when I brought it home was clean & lube the screw. Someone would have to offer me a lot of money for me to let it go.
 
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Now that we're in a house I finally got to mount this Wilton I bought last summer (my first vise). Solid little sucker. I also recently picked up a 4" Scout which I may be selling.
 

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Today, I was about 30 minutes away from getting a good condition Charlie Parker off Craigslist for $35.... :(
 

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I inherited this Wilton a couple of weeks ago, 6" jaws that open to a bit over 5.25". And here I thought the 5" jaws / 4" opening on the one on the left was a good size...



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MacMan

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I bought this vise about 20 years ago.
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I was given this as a Christmas present, having expressed a desire for a decent, BIG engineers vice. Came from a country trash and treasure market. Looks like a dead ringer for the FJT branded one. This one had no branding on it anywhere but the sleeves are all fairly close tolerance and it's very heavy.

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Sandblasted and done with engine enamel, it now looks like this.

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I'm doing a fair bit of gearbox and diff work so I made some alloy soft jaws and had to duplicate one of the pipe grippers. It's a thing of practical beauty now.
 

t100

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My newly acquired Record 5" Quick Release Vise waiting to be installed in the work bench.

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Jay,

how does the quick-release vise work? I may get my hands on a brand new one(made in Sheffield, England), but I can't find any info on how it works in the real world. I'm afraid it's just another gimmick. I've searched everywhere.

thanks.
 

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If it's fully closed just loosen it up a bit by turning the handle then you could pull the jaws all the way out.

Push in to grip then tighten with the handle. The tightening handle does not actually work ( it will just slip ) unless the jaws are holding on to something.

It works quite well and the quick release is very convenient.

New Old Stock English made Record Vises are drying up. I've seen the newer ones and these are farmed out to China. As expected quality is not the same.

Hope this helps
 
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CrustyD3mon

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Hey guys..i have this little vise,that my grandfather gave some years ago...it's in a box since some years ago...and now i decided to restore it...anyone knows something about it?

Seems it was write in there "little Stone" and "jilestown" ...anyone eard about it?



 

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All right -- given that a guy who makes it to page 18 of the 'Vises of Garage Journal' has to be a pretty hard-core vise guy, I'm going to post a picture of the vise I recently bought and can't identify the manufacturer.

I posted a separate thread, so my apologies to the moderators -- but I like the thing a lot and I'm really curious about it.

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rwhite692

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Update, here are a few pics after de-rusting / cleanup.


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Here is another one that I am working on, It's a 5" YOST, Model 33C.

96 pounds of goodness.

The guy who had sold it to the seller with a bunch of other stuff, told me that it had followed him home from Mare Island Naval Shipyard, when the yard closed in the mid 1990s.

At the time I purchased it, I had my doubts about the screw condition, as did the seller (thought it was most likely stripped out) because the jaw would only start to move after about two full revolutions of the handle. For that reason, I almost passed on it, but after we talked, the seller offered it at a low enough price that I decided to take a chance on it.

I didn't mount it to my bench to use it, for fear of it breaking if I tried to really tighten it, so, since bringing it home, it's been sitting under my bench waiting it's turn for some attention.

I took it apart the other day and it was a nice surprise to find that the problem was not a bad screw, but that the stop collar on the backside of the front jaw had simply become loose (the set screw) and had slipped back about 3/8".

The original color paint appears to be similar to "Evinrude outboard motor metallic light blue".

So anyway, it's all apart now and soaking in a bath of Castrol super clean, dissolving all the grease which had turned to a clay-like black crust. It should clean up real nice.

The jaws are in great shape. I need to get a set of pipe jaws for it, as they are missing (they are still available from YOST, but, at 100 clams...ouch!). Anyone on GJ have a set?

The pipe jaws can be seen in the photo of a new 33C, below (YOST still sells the same model#, today).

2117883960011691741S600x600Q85.jpg


2942185890011691741S600x600Q85.jpg


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bmwpower

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All right -- given that a guy who makes it to page 18 of the 'Vises of Garage Journal' has to be a pretty hard-core vise guy, I'm going to post a picture of the vise I recently bought and can't identify the manufacturer.

I posted a separate thread, so my apologies to the moderators -- but I like the thing a lot and I'm really curious about it.

mysteryvise.jpg

I dunno. Can't say for sure. Any markings?
Definitely looks European to me.
 

Fudge

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Heres mine! A Wilton that came with the bench its attached to. The post vise came from my great gradparents homestead in NW Oklahoma I would guess the vise had been there since the late 1800's. It has an early mod that someone did to bolt it too the leg of a bench I would asume. Can anyone tell me years on models on either? I about died when I first came on here and found out what a Wilton is worth. I paid $75 for the bench and it came with a free vise. They came out of an old National Auto Parts that opened in 1947. My guess is that the bench and vise have lived together since then.
 

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