The VISES of Garage Journal

[Fierljeppen]

Am I missing something or is the vise missing something?

The rotating jaw is essentially a sprocket but I don't see anything that is designed to engage the cogs. So is the jaw designed to rotate freely and engage the work piece at whatever angle is required? If so, what are the cogs for? If not, what is supposed to engage the cogs?

The only other thing I can think of is the rotating jaw is rotated manually against the work piece to which ever cutout best fits against it. Is that recessed hex bolt on the left rear intended to lock the jaw?

You answered your own question correctly.

GJ member "dutchgray" has a very nice collection of these vises.

 

[Old Radar]

You answered your own question correctly.

GJ member "dutchgray" has a very nice collection of these vises.

I kind of worked through it as I was writing. Thanks for the confirmation!

 

[Fierljeppen]

Well I came across this last night and ended up picking it up after work. Had no idea it was a Yost until the guy walked outside with it. Also couldnt tell how big it was from his pictures either. It has obvious "repair" work done to it at one point in its life. Any idea on a date of this guy? Only out $50 as of now for it. ]

Just picked up one of these Yost yesterday - almost identical with the number 74 behind that removable jaw. I'm here trying to get a date as well.

I found these vises in a 1920 Yost catalog no-9. The 1927 catalog no-10 has a different style. It looks very similar to the Prentiss and Columbian swivel jaw vises in the 1910's.

These are very rare vises!

 

[PierceA]

F.Jeppen: Do you know the time period that Yost was in Muskegon Michigan? I think afterwards they moved to Holland Michigan?
I have this 6" Yost:

Thanks PierceA

 

[Fierljeppen]

PierceA...First off, your vises are very nice, but your cars are much nicer!

Here's my Yost notes from the "Vise Info Thread", with dates from Waynesboro, PA to my beloved, soon to be home, Holland Michigan.


G. M. Yost Mfg. Co. Location History w/ References

1906...Waynesboro, PA

• 1906_american_machinist_v.29_oct25_pg.552

1907...Mechanicsburg, PA

• 1907_the_iron_age_v.79_jan31_pg.385

• 1907_the_iron_age_v.79_mar28_pg.1013

1908...Meadville, PA

• 1908_the _metal_worker_plumber_pipe_fitter_apr11_pg.59

1957...Cambridge Springs, PA

• 1957_american_machinist_v.101_pg.202

• 1957_mechanical_catalog_v.46_pg.720

1980...Muskegon, MI

• 1980_US_industrial_directory_v.3_pg.2980

• 1980_the_directory_of_michigan_mfgs_pg.297

1985...Holland, MI

• 1985_commercial_news_USA_pg.26

• 1986_michigan_purchasing_directory_pg.207

2020...Holland, MI

• https://www.yostvises.com/

 

[Outlawmws]

Mark, welcome; and that Wilson is one of the coolest vises I've seen! Unbelievable that it wasn't a more popular variant! I'd grab one like that in a heartbeat!

 

[Thrumcap]

Well the Reed 4C split nut project has returned the prototype.







The machinist did a great job, fits both 4Cs I have. The only difference is the screw capture slots are machined round rather than V shaped to save on machining. A simple matter to drill a V point into the selected round once the collar is fitted. Next, the production run and sourcing the capture screw and thrust washer to complete the kit.

Thrumcap

 

[Outlawmws]

Were they cringing when you said "Now go bust them in half"....?

 

[Crack The Sky]

Mark, welcome; and that Wilson is one of the coolest vises I've seen! Unbelievable that it wasn't a more popular variant! I'd grab one like that in a heartbeat!

Thank you

It is pretty cool, its the first one i've ever seen in person, i would keep it for myself, but i would never use it and it would just take up room. So i'll be putting it up for sale soon.
Out of curiosity, any ideas on an approximate value of it in America? It appears to be more popular over there than it does here and i've shipped a few big Record vices to America, so this would be easy to ship overseas.

Also, i might put up some pictures of some of my Record vices on here soon

 

[PierceA]

Mr Wonderful, nice find but I don't think it's a Parker.
Clean the end of the jaws up so you can see the hard jaw material's shape. A Parker has two pins through the top of the hard jaw holding it to the softer vise casting.
The Parker jaws are very wide on the top. On that size vise, the top of the jaw would be at least 1-1/4" wide. The hard jaw material sort of wraps over the top of the jaw casting.

Also, Parker's mounting feet usually come to a point, instead of being rounded.
Parker had a split ring that was wedged wider to lock the vise in the base.

It DOES look like a Parker knock off with the type of main screw retainer it has.

PierceA

In the photo you can see the wide-top jaw faces and the characteristic pointed mounting feet, and the captive hex wrench for the swivel lock.

 

[Thrumcap]

Well, I expected to have to do that but it showed up with an application of hammer already applied and it fit by hand in about 10 seconds, so I’d say not much apphrehension there.

Thrumcap

 

[va.grouseman]

Radar, I think your second assumption is closer on par.---Here's another DOHM but not quite the same style.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/755749...MI4P2ClenQ6wIVsey1Ch1VQgQIEAQYASABEgJu6fD_BwE

 

[MrJeep]

Scored two vice's today. 4-1/2" Snap-On mechanics vice and a Craftsman 10" woodworking vice.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

Scored two vice's today. 4-1/2" Snap-On mechanics vice and a Craftsman 10" woodworking vice.

That’s awesome


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[davethorik]

F.Jeppen: Do you know the time period that Yost was in Muskegon Michigan? I think afterwards they moved to Holland Michigan?
I have this 6" Yost:

Thanks PierceA

That's funny I just recently got this 204 marked Muskegon. I think this is the original color. I like it. Opens 6" and weighs 51 lbs. Nice little vise.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Among other things, I picked up some vises today at the estate sale of a clock maker. Here is the Wilton 2" baby bullet. I found no date on the slide. It was made in Chicago. This would make it an early bullet vise right? Why no date on the slide? Also, does the paint look original? The guy took good care of his tools. My first baby bullet. Didn't think it would ever happen.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Here are pics of the unmarked jeweler's vise. At least I think it's a jeweler's vise. ??? Jaws are 1-1/8" wide. Well made little vise. Anyone recognize it?

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Here's the Stanley No 700 corner vise. I believe the aluminum jaw pads are shop made. Anyone know the age/era for this heavy corner vise? I didn't see Stanley vises in John Walter's Stanley Tools book.

 

[Shiftless]

You did very well, Tex.

In my opinion, that sure looks like original paint on the baby bullet.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Here's the Stanley bench vise. I don't see a model no. ?? Very nice looking and solid little vise. 2" jaws. Age/era anyone?

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Thanks Shiftless!

 

[Outlawmws]

TX the Stanley 700 has a long history and many variants (and never changed the Model No.)

Is the "body" aluminum, or steel? (both were made and the earliest were I believe forged "open frame)

 

[Outlawmws]

TX on the clamp on look close on top if the slide near the end.

 

[rusty65]

That design started in 1956 when Stanley added replaceable jaws.



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[Outlawmws]

Rusty, the bottom of that page has the 700 on it...

 

[txlonghorn1989]

TX the Stanley 700 has a long history and many variants (and never changed the Model No.)

Is the "body" aluminum, or steel? (both were made and the earliest were I believe forged "open frame)

It's steel. It's heavy.

 

[rusty65]

Here is a link if any one wants to check it out.

https://archive.org/details/StanleyToolsCatalogNo341958/page/n141/mode/2up


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[txlonghorn1989]

Rusty, what's the difference between the No 766 and the No 746? This vise has 2" replaceable jaws.

 

[rusty65]

Rusty, what's the difference between the No 766 and the No 746? This vise has 2" replaceable jaws.

That’s the only difference yours has replaceable jaws and the 746 does not. For your baby Wilton I’d say it dates to 1973-76. Just my opinion.


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[Outlawmws]

TX you 700 looks to be the same era as the 766. The jaws were originally hardboard, and were considered consumable. I keep an aluminum version (model like yours - not the cut back skeleton 702) that I keep in my samurai for "just in case I need a vise" out in the field.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

It looks like a No 763 to me? What do you think? Was there a 763?

 

[txlonghorn1989]

That’s the only difference yours has replaceable jaws and the 746 does not. For your baby Wilton I’d say it dates to 1973-76. Just my opinion.


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I thought Chicago manufactured Wilton vises were the earliest before Schiller Park? Do I have that backwards?

 

[Outlawmws]

I thought Chicago manufactured Wilton vises were the earliest before Schiller Park? Do I have that backwards?

Check the Keyway for a date but they must have made thousands of castings in Chicago, that were still finished in Schiller Park era.

on the Stanley Clamp-on what is the width of the jaws?

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Honestly, I think the No 763 is my favorite of the four I got today. They are all in such great condition. Used but not a spec of rust. Just couldn't be happier with them.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Check the Keyway for a date but they must have made thousands of castings in Chicago, that were still finished in Schiller Park era.

on the Stanley Clamp-on what is the width of the jaws?

Outlaw, I unscrewed the dynamic and looked on the keyway. Even cleaned it with some steel wool thinking maybe a date was hiding under the little bit of smudging but nothing. When did Wilton move from Chicago?

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I googled Stanley 763 vise and found a lot that are exactly like mine in every detail. Next, question is where can I locate catalog pics or determine date range for these? Thanks for the help guys!

 

[Outlawmws]

Rusty posted a link above - the page has the 76X, 74X and 700/702

 

[Crack The Sky]

Thought i would share some of the vices i've had recently. i'll start with this.
A vintage Record no.52 1/2 woodworking vice with quick release. gave it a nice clean up and it had been well looked after, so it was pretty easy for me.

I'm showing this one first as this one was sold to an American and arrived in America last thursday, the new owner messaged me and was thrilled when it arrived

Got a nice haul of vices yesterday so will post pictures soon

 

[Shiftless]

Tex:
I believe the accepted date for the move from Chicago to Schiller Park is 1957.
But especially with the babies, Wilton used old castings and maybe the molds too well into the period of time after the move.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Check the Keyway for a date but they must have made thousands of castings in Chicago, that were still finished in Schiller Park era.

on the Stanley Clamp-on what is the width of the jaws?

Sorry Outlaw missed you asked what is the width of the Stanley No 763 jaws. They are 2" wide.

I just took a pic of the Wilton keyway. No date that I can detect.