Lets make an all vintage Snap-on tool picture thread!

[Private Lugnutz]

Perfect! You can celebrate completion of the Presidential election..

In December, likely! Don't get me started. We'll get the thread locked! Lol

 

[3baygarage]

In December, likely! Don't get me started. We'll get the thread locked! Lol

Loxocket you say? Yes, I believe Loxocket was the term. Just the one term.

 

[Provincial]

Do you use a Loxocket on hex bagels or 12-point bagels?

 

[max4benelli]

First off, Hello.

I am brand new here, but have lurked for many years. I have just come into a Snap On F71C ratchet from a family member. I cannot find a rebuild kit for this anywhere. Would I be able to use say... RKRA380 rebuild kit? Or anything more available? I wont mind if the teeth count changes. Thank you for your time.

 

[snapmom]

rkra962 is the kit you need, they are no longer listed for sale on the Snap on site.
Does it still work, sometimes you can give it a good cleaning and lube job to get it back into good working condition.

 

[thehorse13]

I picked this up for a dollar today. Based on the mark, this is a 1944 No. 67 ratchet adapter. Pretty nice half inch drive unit that works perfectly.

 

[thehorse13]

First off, Hello.

I am brand new here, but have lurked for many years. I have just come into a Snap On F71C ratchet from a family member. I cannot find a rebuild kit for this anywhere. Would I be able to use say... RKRA380 rebuild kit? Or anything more available? I wont mind if the teeth count changes. Thank you for your time.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone with a rebuild kit for this model. Your best bet is to buy a donor off the bay and use that for your ratchet.

 

[MShaw]

"I picked this up for a dollar today. Based on the mark, this is a 1944 No. 67 ratchet adapter"

I have one identical to yours that I bought used from a SO dealer in 1961. Nice smooth action. love it.

 

[thehorse13]

This turned up on a Snap-On collector Facebook group. I've never seen one before and I'm sure that others here would love to have a look at this gem.

I'm pretty sure OldTuleGuy has about half dozen though. lol

 

[snapmom]

Hard to find with this many tools. Do you own it?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice set up!

 

[MR.X]

This turned up on a Snap-On collector Facebook group. I've never seen one before and I'm sure that others here would love to have a look at this gem.

I like how the guy snuck his home security system into the first pic in case anyone's getting ideas. LOL.

 

[thehorse13]

Hard to find with this many tools. Do you own it?

Nope. The owner is a die hard Snap-On guy so the only way this thing is leaving his hands will be after he's buried. Maybe not even then. lol

 

[redtop]

Here are pics of an early Blue Point screwdriver.

A little bit of history from the Alloy Artifacts website:

Blue Point Tools

As their business grew and customers began requesting other types of tools, Snap-On decided to establish a second line of tools to meet the demand. By September 15, 1923 the Blue Point Tool Company had been formed in Chicago and the name "Blue Point" was being marked on tools. This date comes from the first use date listed on a 1929 trademark application for "Blue Point", which listed the company address as 14 East Jackson Street in Chicago. (Blue Point Tool seems to have shared the address of Snap-On's distribution company, the Motor Tool Specialty Company of Chicago.) Joseph Johnson signed the trademark application as the Treasurer for the company.

In the beginning Blue Point relied primarily on outside contractors to produce tools to its specifications, using the production facilities of various tool companies in Chicago and other areas. Establishing the identity of these contract companies would be of considerable interest to Snap-On and Blue Point collectors, but this has proven to be difficult for various reasons.

At the present time only two companies are known to have produced tools for Blue Point: the Forged Steel Products Company of Newport, Pennsylvania, and Milwaukee Tool & Forge (MTF) of South Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The former company is the well-known maker of "Vacuum Grip" pliers sold by Snap-On, but also supplied forging facilities for production of Blue Point tools in the mid 1920s. The latter company was identified recently by the fortuitous acquisition (by another collector) of a tool roll identifying MTF as the maker of "Milwaukee Blue Points" tools for the Motor Tool Specialty Company. Interested readers may wish to see our articles on the Forged Steel Products Company and Milwaukee Tool & Forge for more information on these companies.

By 1926 a wide variety of tools were being offered under the Blue Point name, including wrenches, chisels, punches, hammers, and specialty tools. "Boxocket" box-end wrenches followed in 1927, and new styles of Obstruction and ignition wrenches were introduced in 1928.

Blue Point or Blue Points?

Although the catalogs called them "Blue Point" tools, they also showed a logo with the wording "Blue Points Chicago" between two pointed arrows. Apparently some of their contract manufacturers took this literally and marked the tools with "Blue Points" or "Blue Points Chicago", sometimes with the arrow logos. Eventually the naming was decided in favor of plain "Blue Point", but some Blue Point tools were still being marked "Blue Points Chicago" possibly as late as 1929.

The Collecting Snapon Website indicates that Snap On began to produce screwdrivers in 1926 and that a new design was introduced in 1929. See https://www.collectingsnapon.com/in...vers/Early Blue Point Mechanics Screw Drivers

Here is a link to a webpage that includes a scanned 1929 Snap On catalog: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20894&showall=1

Does anyone know if my screwdriver is the earlier or later design made by Snap On?

The answer to the question may be obvious if the 1926 Blue Point screwdriver handles were not made out of wood. Does anyone know if the earliest Blue Point screwdriver handles were made out of wood?

Please post pics of your early Blue Point screwdriver(s) if you've got one (or more).

 

[outofbounds]

Curious if the experts can weigh in and identify which badge is older, and when they came in with the "Kenosha, Wisconsin" on the bottom edge of the badge. I own a K-55-W top chest (pictured right) and am weakening in my resistance to hold out for the perfect roller base for it, and potentially considering this K-77-W on the left, listed locally here in Michigan (after a lot of haggling I'll suppose)

 

[Oldtuleguy]

The one marked trademark is newer, at least on my examples

 

[outofbounds]

The one marked trademark is newer, at least on my examples

Newer to imply post-war, OTG?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Don't know the cutoff date, but maybe a bit earlier

 

[snapmom]

Screwdrivers show up in the 26 cat. had wood handles, yours is a old one with motor tool on them. As far as I know (I am not a screwdriver collector) the Blue Point name was used and not Blue Points, not sure if Snap on made there own. Blue Points name probably came over from MTF. In the 1931 131 New tools cat. Blue Point insuloid screwdrivers were listed (see pics)
You can go to the collectingsnapon site and see most all the cats, make a spreadsheet of the different models by year for the 20s and 30s.
Keep up informed as to what you find, as many of us here would like to learn

 

[3baygarage]

Those are some neat drivers.

Have to post a recent purchase. This is the second N-4200 rat I’ve bought. I spotted it amongst some other items on the bay. The photos didn’t tell much about it, but I went with my gut and took a shot.

Snapmom’s posted example is very nice, especially the finish. This one here is a little crusty but works great.

The neat part is they are all different years.

-The first one I posted on 7/31/18 appeared to be a 1949. I don’t have it with me.
-Snapmom’s is 1946.
-This is no doubt a 1952, and came with another 1952 rat.
-This photo shows it with the long modified F-70N rat I posted before, which looks like 1948, with a nice chrome. A bit of a mystery, however they match in length and knurled handle length.

Have to wonder if these were made for a specific customer or use. Either way, it was long before the modern extra long ratchets appeared.

 

[redtop]

Thank you for posting pics of your blue point screwdrivers and for providing me info about my screwdriver, snapmom.

 

[snapmom]

N4200, I think just to many have shown up, and this long time period, to be a single customer. Probably railroad are aircraft.
Some other factory modified F70N.

 

[3baygarage]

N4200, I think just to many have shown up, and this long time period, to be a single customer. Probably railroad are aircraft.
Some other factory modified F70N.

Glad you posted those. Looking at your ratchet again, I see it has Snap On and Ferret on it, like the chrome one in my last post. The two N-4200 marked ones I have do not, they only have the number. Interesting how they modified existing ratchets.

Edit: that medium length F70N is an odd one as well. The A- model I’m familiar with.

 

[ALLFAST]

I found this 12 x 7 , 1/2" drive Long T and I don't know if it''s marked No.3 or not (it's in the mail). The center handle is retained by the two spring balls,not swedging.

Given their age, how common are these nowadays?

Thanks everyone,

Shawn

 

[ALLFAST]

Same question for this undated (I believe it to be) large SnapOn script K4 speeder and No.2 short T driver.

I got great deals on all 3 from two different sellers.

 

[ALLFAST]

Forgot the photo.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

If there are no date codes then pre 1927 is likely.

 

[ALLFAST]

Thank you OTG. Once they arrive I can check them further.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here are some vacuum grip battery terminal pliers

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Nice. I've never seen one before.

I think that is probably a Forged Steel Products tool, though, not a Snap-on tool.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here they are in the 1934 catalog. Snap on sold them, but had not yet branded them.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Perhaps. I've always found that explanation a bit strange, though, since the other styles of Vacuum-Grip pliers Snap-on was buying from FSP since the mid-1920's were branded. Why, in 1934, when FSP essentially owned Snap-on, and Bill Myers, the former head honcho at FSP was now the head honcho at Snap-on, would they not be branded? But the real question I've always had is, how would you tell the difference between Vacuum-Grip pliers made by FSP for sale by FSP (they were their own independent entity after the Snap-on takeover, and continued making and selling all their own products through 1950) and Vacuum-Grip pliers made by FSP for sale by Snap-on if they weren't branded and only marked Newport? They were all made in Newport.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

According to the catalog vacuum grip pliers were "recommended by snap on" in 1934. In the 1937 catalog they are listed as snap on vacuum grip pliers.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's interesting. It doesn't quite jibe with the timeline in their own history. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Snap on certainly has an interesting history with forged steel products

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Complicated.

 

[snapmom]

SO was very heavy in debt to FSP, so, it looks like Bill took over SO

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I am sure fsp was certainly using their influence to market their products.

 

[LesserSon]

Speaking of FSP, here are a pair of slip-joint side-cutting pliers I picked up today. Plain steel. Enough rust and puckering black paint that I do not see any identifying marks, aside from the suction-cup grip pattern.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I think i see the remains of some markings in the first pic.