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ttpete

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I had an old mostly worn out Triumph 650 my senior year in high school. Anyway I went out for a long ride out West of town one afternoon and was very pleased with how perfectly it ran, very unusual. Turned around about twenty miles out and headed back: it began the crazy random misfiring again.. I turned in the seat to my right to listen to the exhaust, then turned around to my left to listen and the miss went away!! WHUT??….turned out to be the wind against the ignition switch (on the left side of the machine on the air filter housing ) was making the key flutter. A strong crosswind from the right shielded the switch on the way out, but exposed it on the way back…I replaced the Lucas switch with something different when I got home and my frustrating running problem was solved!👍
After 1967, they moved the switch up to the forkhead, which was a better place. That switch probably had a key ring hanging from it for a long time, which wore it out. Some years, the headlight switch was down there as well.
 

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After 1967, they moved the switch up to the forkhead, which was a better place. That switch probably had a key ring hanging from it for a long time, which wore it out. Some years, the headlight switch was down there as well.
Mine was the much-hated oil-in-the-frame model, I believe 1970, or ‘71….and yes, it had a key fob wagging on it….
 

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Mine was the much-hated oil-in-the-frame model, I believe 1970, or ‘71….and yes, it had a key fob wagging on i

Mine was the much-hated oil-in-the-frame model, I believe 1970, or ‘71….and yes, it had a key fob wagging on it….
1970 was the last oil tank bike. The '71 and later were oil-in-frame, and it was actually a BSA frame. They tried to install the engine, and it didn't fit with the rocker boxes installed. Once they were removed, the engine fit, but they couldn't be installed later. A redesign was required.
 

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I have a gauge but no pouch. I did a quick eBay check and several gauge and pouch combinations popped up and most were quite reasonably priced. I might pick one up.
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Lost speedway race schedules for '61 and '66. Westwood was a beautiful location. It fell victim to urban development (Westwood Plateau) in around 1990. The name originated with the SCCBC paying respect to Earle C. Westwood, the provincial minister of recreation who helped them attain their lease on the Crown land. The bumper stickers read: Westwood. Mountain High Racing.
 

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Can you show us how that old tire gauge works?
It works just like later vintage Schrader tire gauges, the more common kind with the long handle and neck and the offset head and the skinny gauge stick. I posted photos last year, but here they are again. You just press the fitting (see Pic 1) into the valve and the pressure inflates the gauge inside the tube on the other end (see Pic 2), only in this case, it is hollow and nearly as wide as the tube itself, with four different scales (see Pic 3 & 4).
 

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patent 495064 Apr 11 1893 George H. F. Schrader
The odd thing about these old balloon era tire gauges is that the patent dates on them (March 1, 1898 and July 6, 1909), marked just above the "SCHRADER - UNIVERSAL" branding...

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...don't match up to any significant events on the Schrader history site timeline, linked here. And believe it or not, neither does the 1893 patent date 4.c just cited, which the timeline attributes to 1896.

I talked about these anomalies on this thread last November as well and never ran them to ground.
 

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Didn't I just send you a list of Schrader patents? :headscrat

For the purposes of entering the patent number and date into the list, what I've been trying to do is to include the most significant patent(s) issued to that particular manufacturer. (e.g., for "Crescent Tool Co." the entry for the patent is 1133236.) irrespective of any other patents they may have been issued. (It wouldn't be possible to list all the patents issued to Stanley, or Aronson/Ronson - they were both issued innumerable patents.)

I looked at that same Schrader URL you linked to above, and came away completely confused, which is why I shot that list to you in such an abbreviated format (quite unlike my usual pedantic endless ramblings.)

I couldn't make heads or tails of it either, to be honest. :dunno:
 
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Didn't I just send you a list of Schrader patents?
Patent dates, yes, some of which are on these tire gauges. I'm confused by you asking. What does that have to do with my point about the patent dates for the gauges and the valve patent you cited above not aligning with the Schrader site timeline? That was my only comment. I didn't say anything about not having patent dates. Anyway, looks like you got as befuddled as me when I went through this the first time last November.
 

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^ That was exactly what I was trying to convey there. I looked at the Schrader site "timeline" as well and like you, walked away shaking my head in confusion.
I'm leaving it for somebody else to sort out! :lol:
 

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I remember, because mine is a Firestone and yours is a Goodyear. I don't blame you. They look nifty.
The one I found on eBay came yesterday and I’m pleased with the condition of the pouch. My dilemma is that since it came with a gauge, should I put the oldie I had in the pouch or the one it came with? They both fit equally well.
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On the straight Balloon there are three dates, last being 4-10-23

On the pistol style there are four dates, last being 191578-1916.
Under that is “Trade Mark Registered in US PAT OFFICE June 16 1914
 

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thank you.

humber2 said:
On the straight Balloon there are three dates, last being 4-10-23
On the pistol style there are four dates, last being 191578-1916.
Under that is “Trade Mark Registered in US PAT OFFICE June 16 1914

please clarify that second line if you could.

Schrader / A. Schrader & Sons, Inc., 28-30-32 Rose St., Brooklyn, NY / est. 1844 / patent 495064 Apr 11 1893 George H. F. Schrader / tire pressure gauges, tire tools / https://web.archive.org/web/20100704025654/http://www.schrader-bridgeport.com/ https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...ile-paraphernalia.434289/page-13#post-8813013 / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...-want-to-call-them.489337/page-3#post-9342545 /

I was unable to figure out ANY patent numbers on the tire gauges. the patent I did find was for the Schrader valve itself. apparently they were involved in some sort of legal tussle with one Twitchell over the patent on a tire pressure gauge.

patent dates stamped on existing Schrader tire pressure gauges:

mar 1 1898

jul 6 1909 - 927298 C.R. Twitchell (?) (see Twitchell vs. Schrader 1912)

mar 28 1916

nov 25 1919

mar 9 1920

feb 14 1922

apr 10 1923 (same mark on humber2's example)
 

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^ am I correct in assuming that is the same "Moto-Meter" that made the temperature gauges which fit on the tops of radiators on early automobiles?

excellent examples, btw. :thumbup:
 

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A couple more, someday I hope to get them all set up in my building!
 

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As long as were doing gauges,
 

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Lookeee what the wife gave me for Christmas! Books from the 30’s. One is a correspondence course on auto mechanics, the other is how to turn Model A power house gen into an alternator-from 1932 no less.
 

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Sorry, gave up on that. I take them normally, they look normal in my phone and get uploaded weird-sometimes. Other times they upload normally so I have given up trying as I can't figure out why they do that.

Mike
 

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Sorry, gave up on that.


If you scroll back up to your post, you will see the option to "rotate" in the lower left corner. I clicked on that and was able to rotate those two photos for you; but then I put them back, so the following two comments would still make sense.

It is a handy feature. I had not tried it before.

Tom
 
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