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My retrieving things with a magnet story...
I was leaning over the fender putting lifters in a sbc and the lubed up lifter squirted right out of my hand and went down the headpipe! Trying to figure out how to get the dang thing out had me puzzled until I saw my cow magnet, (they are roughly the size of a lifter). The magnet was a friction fit in a 3' piece of heater hose. I left just the tip of the magnet sticking out of the hose. It worked perfectly! After that I always remembered to cover the headpipes!......lesson learned.
 
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I'd have to sleep in a room away from my wife without the CPAP.
When I went in for surgery last year, they had me bring my machine with me.

My dad passed away at age 67 in 1986 - before CPAP/sleep therapy was a thing. CPAP therapy became prevalent in the 1990's.
I firmly believe that he had very serious sleep apnea that contributed to his demise. He would shake the house with his snoring and snorting.
Roger, for my Cardio Ablation I brought my CPAP to the hospital but the nurse said she couldn't plug it in because it didn't come from the hospital. They had me on oxygen that night and I went home the next day so no big deal. Same thing happened for my radical robotic prostatectomy but it involved three nights in the hospital. Had no problems sleeping on my side but my very loud cellmate kept me awake for much of the night.

Coincidentally I was diagnosed with sleep apnea when I was 67. After my accident the orthopedic surgeons told me to sleep with my stump beside or above my head to prevent muscle, tendon and ligament shrinkage. Got in the habit of sleeping that way and it apparently minimized the apneas. It also resulted in better shoulder motion in my stump side than my arm side.
Just had to chime in. I'm so glad this is understood these days and more frequently diagnosed. Before I was diagnosed with sleep apnea, I would sometimes need a nap during lunchtime or coffee break while at work (home office), but latest after dinner, maybe 30-60min, then I could finish the evening. This completely disappeared with the CPAP machine. It did take a lot of space in my luggage when we moved, but won't sleep without it if I don't have to. Bike trips are for example where I don't bring it with me. Heh, now it's getting late here so good night! ;)
Matias, before I was tested I thought it was a trivial problem. I didn't associate it with my tendency to nod off during the day and my perpetual tiredness. An hour into many car trips my head would nod and I had to pull over and walk around the car a few times. It seemed my eyes were open but I was about to be driving in my sleep. Talk about scary, I sometimes would dream it was happening and wake up in bed with my heart pounding.
 
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My retrieving things with a magnet story...
I was leaning over the fender putting lifters in a sbc and the lubed up lifter squirted right out of my hand and went down the headpipe! Trying to figure out how to get the dang thing out had me puzzled until I saw my cow magnet, (they are roughly the size of a lifter). The magnet was a friction fit in a 3' piece of heater hose. I left just the tip of the magnet sticking out of the hose. It worked perfectly! After that I always remembered to cover the headpipes!......lesson learned.
@Adaylate, thanks for teaching me something new. Never heard of a cow magnet before. Also never thought of swallowing a magnet.

"When diagnosing Hardware disease, one of the first things that veterinarians will do is check for the presence of a cow magnet. Oftentimes, veterinarians will place a compass beside a cow's stomach to detect the magnetic field. Although there may be a magnet in a cow, magnets should never be ingested by humans."

Of course it makes sense when you think of all the stuff they might ingest (baling wire, barbed wire, nails. etc.). I probably shouldn't order my own cow magnet but I'm going to try to flip a memory switch in my brain for the future. What was I saying....
I keep a small telescoping magnet in my shirt pocket. Handy for retrieving all the things I drop, and checking scrap.
Uncle Willie, yesterday I had two telescoping magnets and today I have seven. Four have clips for use in pockets but I'm only going to put the smallest in my shirt pocket. I put too many tools in my pants pockets and I already have a hard time pulling them out. Is this heading in a bad direction? - If you don't hear from me for a while I may have been banned for talking about my tool problems.
 

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Roger, for my Cardio Ablation I brought my CPAP to the hospital but the nurse said she couldn't plug it in because it didn't come from the hospital. They had me on oxygen that night and I went home the next day so no big deal. Same thing happened for my radical robotic prostatectomy but it involved three nights in the hospital. Had no problems sleeping on my side but my very loud cellmate kept me awake for much of the night.

Coincidentally I was diagnosed with sleep apnea when I was 67. After my accident the orthopedic surgeons told me to sleep with my stump beside or above my head to prevent muscle, tendon and ligament shrinkage. Got in the habit of sleeping that way and it apparently minimized the apneas. It also resulted in better shoulder motion in my stump side than my arm side.

Matias, before I was tested I thought it was a trivial problem. I didn't associate it with my tendency to nod off during the day and my perpetual tiredness. An hour into many car trips my head would nod and I had to pull over and walk around the car a few times. It seemed my eyes were open but I was about to be driving in my sleep. Talk about scary, I sometimes would dream it was happening and wake up in bed with my heart pounding.

I had that same issue a number of years ago when I was unexpectedly hospitalized. They said I couldn't plug in my machine until the engineering department blessed it. Jeesh... Standard CPAP, UL listed.... Or, I could get a machine from respiratory therapy - except the right people were gone for the evening. Eventually, the nurse on duty said "Just plug it in and relax."

This hospital (nationally known) had zero issues when I went in last year. Right off the bat, when I said I had sleep apnea during the pre-anesthesia workup a few days prior, they said "be sure to bring your machine". They even gave me a gallon of distilled water to use.

BTW... I've been on CPAP therapy for 17 years now. Will be 67 in October, so diagnosed relatively young - I guess. I shudder to think of the cardiac damage that could have ensued had I not gotten on CPAP therapy. Not to mention sleeping alone. ;)
 

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Another magnet for your shirt pocket is also a tiny prybar:



I first saw these on the YouTube, Rainman Ray's repairs. He got one from his Snap On man and he's found a zillion uses for it. I didn't want two, but at $8ish, can't complain, and I mailed the second to a friend. I find it great for electrical connectors. Best I can tell, it's not a real Snap On item in the Snap On catalog, but a cheap Chinese thing handed out as a promotional item. Many are sold that look just like these "Gato Tools" versions. I think Mac's looks slightly nicer and may not be the same exact Chinese thing that everybody else seems to be selling in various colors.


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Now shown in Amazon pics: has a little magnetic button in the base of the handle, just like traditional mechanic's pocket screwdrivers have.

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Note: pry bar is small but hand is large.
 
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I had that same issue a number of years ago when I was unexpectedly hospitalized. They said I couldn't plug in my machine until the engineering department blessed it. Jeesh... Standard CPAP, UL listed.... Or, I could get a machine from respiratory therapy - except the right people were gone for the evening. Eventually, the nurse on duty said "Just plug it in and relax."

This hospital (nationally known) had zero issues when I went in last year. Right off the bat, when I said I had sleep apnea during the pre-anesthesia workup a few days prior, they said "be sure to bring your machine". They even gave me a gallon of distilled water to use.

BTW... I've been on CPAP therapy for 17 years now. Will be 67 in October, so diagnosed relatively young - I guess. I shudder to think of the cardiac damage that could have ensued had I not gotten on CPAP therapy. Not to mention sleeping alone. ;)
Roger, I think some hospitals are run by retired prison or concentration camp wardens. Back in the '70s I needed some sinus surgery and checked in Thursday night for an early Friday visit to the operating room. Woke up Friday with a cold and they postponed surgery until Monday. Rather than send me home, they had me stay through the weekend (IBM had a real good hospital and surgical plan). You would think a hospital could provide some aspirin or Tylenol and nasal spray to treat my symptoms but NOOOO, the doctor would have to prescribe them. Spent the weekend snorting water up my nose and giving the nurses a hard time (what did you do to my arm?!?).

Good thing they strapped me down for the surgery because I was ready to shove something up that doctor's nose by Monday morning. They also put me under to a level real close to death (to minimize bleeding). The doctor failed to mention they would be stuffing eight feet of gauze up my nose but they let me go home late that day. The doctor invited me for a visit the next week to remove the gauze but something made me sneeze before then. Given the choice to push the ****** wad back up my nose or pull it out, I chose the latter. After pulling the first five feet out, I was regretting the decision -- it's a really weird feeling pulling something out from a place that far inside your head.
Bob's so old his robot has prostate problems!
@Squankum, it probably has grandchildren.
Another magnet for your shirt pocket is also a tiny prybar:


I first saw these on the YouTube, Rainman Ray's repairs. He got one from his Snap On man and he's found a zillion uses for it. I didn't want two, but at $8ish, can't complain, and I mailed the second to a friend. I find it great for electrical connectors. Best I can tell, it's not a real Snap On item in the Snap On catalog, but a cheap Chinese thing handed out as a promotional item. Many are sold that look just like these "Gato Tools" versions. I think Mac's looks slightly nicer and may not be the same exact Chinese thing that everybody else seems to be selling in various colors.

Now shown in Amazon pics: has a little magnetic button in the base of the handle, just like traditional mechanic's pocket screwdrivers have.

Note: pry bar is small but hand is large.
Then I'll need something tiny to be pried from my cold dead hand.

I have to ask. Do you moisturize? Because my hand looks like a pink raisin.
 

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UDDER CREME!

It's not oily. Soaks in easily and you can get on with your day.

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Sold at Wal-Mart but when winter hits it sells out and then you can't buy it at Wal-Mart.

Also, I wear surgical gloves for most shop duty. Found out it saved a lot of time and effort on hand washing and fingernail cleaning, too. The other night I cleaned out the compost pile I didn't know I had, up in one section of gutter, that was a bare hands job for once.
 

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Udder Creme is not to be confused with another product for cows, Bag Balm. This is a thick goop in a tin, slightly thicker than axle grease. Used for... a great many things. As an antiseptic, for rashs, for cow udders in harsh northern climes, and my first introduction to it was in college, a mate from upstate NY was waterproofing his boots with it.

Rub this in your hands and you won't want to be touching other thing for quite a few minutes. For heavy duty dried out situations. Shania Twain also rubs it on her face at night before bedtime, but I don't think that's really the secret to her success.

I mostly use it in hot weather when things get sweaty and chafe-y down sailing down in the Crotch Latitudes.

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Sold in some drugstores and at Tractor Supply over in the horsey aisle. T.S. also sells a cute little 1 oz. tin which costs nearly as much as the big tin! But it is a better size for travel or daily carry.
 

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Be very careful talking about this product in public where bag balm might be heard as bag bomb. Tends to excite people these days.
 

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Be very careful talking about this product in public where bag balm might be heard as bag bomb. Tends to excite people these days.

Yes, a wise man would refrain from exciting people with an offering of a balm.

 
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Hi Bob, After my accident, I couldn't move my stump at all, I have some feeling of pressure on it but I can't feel hot or cold. I barely have any motion from because the nerves were shot. No one ever told me to sleep a different way, at first I couldn't because my leg was in traction for 4 weeks or so, so maybe that's why?

the old "(what did you do to my arm?!?)" joke never gets old when you have new people around that have no clue. I did that to a fireman once when I was involved in 10 car wreck driving from Daytona to Orlando. The fireman was checking our bodies for anything protruding or sticking into us and I said OMG I can see you touching my left side but I can't feel my arm. My friend in passenger seat was what are you doing, this is no time to be joking,(he was telling me to stop screwing around). The fireman was like can you feel this, I was like yes but I can't feel or move left arm! He ran his hands down my side, realized that there was no left arm and was like wtf, you a-hole, starts laughing, you got me, now we need to get my Lt. His Lt. thought I was a real sicko about joking around about it but liked that I had sense humor about it considering that we still trapped in the car.

I like getting people to touch my prosthetic hand and say oh your hand is cold are you ok? They remove their hand quickly and grab it with their other hand to feel it and are like you can feel that?
 

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Some of the best laughs I've ever had were when I was in the ER waiting to get stitched up, so I can relate to the joke.
 
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UDDER CREME!

It's not oily. Soaks in easily and you can get on with your day.

1661526084323.png


Sold at Wal-Mart but when winter hits it sells out and then you can't buy it at Wal-Mart.

Also, I wear surgical gloves for most shop duty. Found out it saved a lot of time and effort on hand washing and fingernail cleaning, too. The other night I cleaned out the compost pile I didn't know I had, up in one section of gutter, that was a bare hands job for once.
@Squankum, I ordered some Udderly Smooth from Amazon that includes the bucket and two tubes and will hold back one tube to give it a try. Liane uses fractionated coconut oil, which doesn't smell like Coppertone but seems to do a good job moisturizing.

I have tried surgical gloves and most are an epic fail for me. I tried different sizes and discovered anything smaller than XL was too tight to get on and anything thinner than 9 mil often tears before I get them on my hand. A thin latex glove isn't protective for very long. I think this was 5 minutes.
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I have a hard time getting my hand past the cuff on the thicker gloves so I made a helper from a piece of 4" PVC. It works great but it's a fight to get the glove's cuff stretched over the PVC.
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Udder Creme is not to be confused with another product for cows, Bag Balm. This is a thick goop in a tin, slightly thicker than axle grease. Used for... a great many things. As an antiseptic, for rashs, for cow udders in harsh northern climes, and my first introduction to it was in college, a mate from upstate NY was waterproofing his boots with it.

Rub this in your hands and you won't want to be touching other thing for quite a few minutes. For heavy duty dried out situations. Shania Twain also rubs it on her face at night before bedtime, but I don't think that's really the secret to her success.

I mostly use it in hot weather when things get sweaty and chafe-y down sailing down in the Crotch Latitudes.

1661526384370.png

Sold in some drugstores and at Tractor Supply over in the horsey aisle. T.S. also sells a cute little 1 oz. tin which costs nearly as much as the big tin! But it is a better size for travel or daily carry.
I'm going to hold off on the terrorist threat cream but as long as we're discussing cow udders, I did adopt a farmer's friend. I originally found it on Blain's Farm & Fleet web site. Its official name is a Teat Sprayer Holster, manufactured by Coburn and it hangs on your belt (suspender guys are out of luck). I use it for car detailing and paint prep when wet sanding as well as damp mopping the Pergo flooring. They cost about $3 when I bought the first one and I liked it so much I bought 7 more. Mounted the 7 on the paint cart so the sprayers with wax & grease remover and a bunch of detailing sprays had a home where they were less likely to be knocked over. With help from my friends here on the GJ I acquired a lot more products in quart spray bottles. When I couldn't find those plastic holders again, I splurged on two TCD Parts Spray Bottle Storage Racks in the 3-bottle size (they also have a 5-bottle rack). When I bought them they came with spray bottles but now they sell empty racks (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00COOO7UO/?tag=atomicindus08-20).
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Be very careful talking about this product in public where bag balm might be heard as bag bomb. Tends to excite people these days.
Kevin, I wonder if that's why Ted Talks don't invite anyone named Kaczynski.
Yes, a wise man would refrain from exciting people with an offering of a balm.

@Squankum, now you've done it. First politics, now religion. :evil:
Hi Bob, After my accident, I couldn't move my stump at all, I have some feeling of pressure on it but I can't feel hot or cold. I barely have any motion from because the nerves were shot. No one ever told me to sleep a different way, at first I couldn't because my leg was in traction for 4 weeks or so, so maybe that's why?

the old "(what did you do to my arm?!?)" joke never gets old when you have new people around that have no clue. I did that to a fireman once when I was involved in 10 car wreck driving from Daytona to Orlando. The fireman was checking our bodies for anything protruding or sticking into us and I said OMG I can see you touching my left side but I can't feel my arm. My friend in passenger seat was what are you doing, this is no time to be joking,(he was telling me to stop screwing around). The fireman was like can you feel this, I was like yes but I can't feel or move left arm! He ran his hands down my side, realized that there was no left arm and was like wtf, you a-hole, starts laughing, you got me, now we need to get my Lt. His Lt. thought I was a real sicko about joking around about it but liked that I had sense humor about it considering that we still trapped in the car.

I like getting people to touch my prosthetic hand and say oh your hand is cold are you ok? They remove their hand quickly and grab it with their other hand to feel it and are like you can feel that?
John, another lucky thing with my accident was leg trauma limited to a single large hole in my calf. Hard for me to imagine how long it took you to heal both limbs. I was up and walking 7 days after the accident and home from the hospital on the 11th day.

I was also lucky to have two orthopedic surgeons who were following the development of myoelectric prosthetics. I believe the first myoelectric prosthesis was developed during the early 40's by Reinhold Reiter, a physicist working with the Bavarian Red Cross. He published his work in 1948icon_reference.gif but it was not widely known and myoelectric control was destined to be "rediscovered" in England, in the Soviet Union, and perhaps other places during the 1950's. They made sure the muscles in my stump would continue to function on the chance sensor driven prosthetics would be available in the future.

It's sad to know you are as sick a ******* as me. That poor girl at Club Med, who asked me what happened to my arm, didn't deserve my response (I looked down at the stump and screamed HOLY $HIT!!!!). Not as bad as the poor valet at the restaurant where I put my Corvette broadside into two new luxury cars. It was raining and when I pushed the smashed driver door open, a cube of the shattered side window nicked my stump and the rain spread the blood to cover the whole thing. Kid crumpled to the ground before I could wipe off the blood and said "I'm fine!"
Some of the best laughs I've ever had were when I was in the ER waiting to get stitched up, so I can relate to the joke.
Kirk, hospitals are so full of sad and sorry people it becomes depressing. On a telehealth call, my colorectal specialist sounded concerned when he mentioned how many polyps had grown in my colon (removed in previous colonoscopies). I suggested it was because of the fertilizer I was using and he cracked up. :moon:
 

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@Squankum, now you've done it. First politics, now religion. :evil:

Oh dear, I didn't intend to get political. I don't even remember it. Did I mention the officer with the camel was French?

I like those bottle hangers! I like them better than the spray bottle shelf/organizers, which seem space inefficient to me, or inflexible. (Yes, I reserve the right to put odd little things next to bigger things.)

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What kind of spray bottles do you use? I acquired a high quality Rubbermaid one a few years ago for spraying bleach solution, and I don't remember if I got it at Wal-Mart (in the four foot wide "janitorial supplies" section of the hardware section), or at a big box hardware store or what, but all of my googling now gives me the impression that Rubbermaid has fully retreated from the retail-sales-to-civilians sector and it gives me a sad. Like 3M, if Rubbermaid makes it, I tend to assume it's pretty darned good.
 

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Gloves: I bought these on recommendation of my local Advance Auto parts counter guy, he said their pro mechanic customers buy them there at Advance. I haven't tried any brand since for years now. (And I order them from Dr. Bezo's Private Space Program on the Internet.) Tears and holes are not a common thing, certainly not a first 5 minutes thing! More like an "eventually after many hours/long jobs/several wearings."

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I was very tempted by the prices I've heard about at HF, but when I tried to shop for them, with my coupon, I quickly ran into:

a) this glove section is large but not necessarily in good order
2) the item #'s on the price tags on the shelves here are so tiny that I really cannot read them in the time allotted today, and I gave up

Third factor that has kept me from HF gloves and other ones people like:
III - black gloves. Sorry, I want to know how dirty my gloves are before I touch some non-shop things or things inside a car. I actually wash my hands with my gloves on and you'd be surprised how reasonably clean you can get them with simple bar soap



And sure, sizing matters!

Knew a prison guard who liberated a box of gloves from his workplace, the kind used to (ahem) search inmates. They're surgical gloves but they're silly thick/tough. I don't even use them, they get saved for some future very dirty very tough job.
 
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Bob:

a) One more detail about Udder Creme -- it's just a bunch of lanolin, really. Which is nice! And is also what you get when you buy Fluid Film. One is pure white, the other light brown and in aerosol form. Lanolin is our friend.

2) I wondered if it was just me with those gloves I recommended, and I took a peek at amazon reviews the other night and I'm not alone, people do like these more than other latex gloves. Of course, your 4" pipe stretch for the cuff is a specific requirement. I can mail you a glove sampler if you'd like.

 
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Oh dear, I didn't intend to get political. I don't even remember it. Did I mention the officer with the camel was French?

I like those bottle hangers! I like them better than the spray bottle shelf/organizers, which seem space inefficient to me, or inflexible. (Yes, I reserve the right to put odd little things next to bigger things.)

1661628673511.png
1661628687403.png

What kind of spray bottles do you use? I acquired a high quality Rubbermaid one a few years ago for spraying bleach solution, and I don't remember if I got it at Wal-Mart (in the four foot wide "janitorial supplies" section of the hardware section), or at a big box hardware store or what, but all of my googling now gives me the impression that Rubbermaid has fully retreated from the retail-sales-to-civilians sector and it gives me a sad. Like 3M, if Rubbermaid makes it, I tend to assume it's pretty darned good.
@Squankum, sorry, I noticed your comment about balming cow udders triggered some of us.

Much as I admire Griot's Garage stuff, it's rarely in my price comfort zone. I have one of their stools, purchased with a $50 gift certificate from a local newspaper's Great Garage contest ("Most Multi-funtional Garage"). I chose the stool because it was not a consumable. I think I had to contribute a couple of bucks for the tax on what was then a $49.99 item. Turns out the casters don't do well on Florida driveways...
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My problem with those shelves, besides price is their size (21 5/8"). Too small for the back of my paint/detailing cart (30") and too big for my cabinet doors (15"). I discovered exhaust connectors, which come in lots of different sizes, can be tacked together to make storage racks for squeeze bottles (8- and 16-oz. sizes), aerosol cans and even tall propane/MAPP bottles.
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For spray bottles, my go to is US Plastics Corp. I found their variety of containers and sprayers were cost effective when you needed more than one or two (shipping ain't free). You can buy bottles with sprayers, bottles alone and sprayers alone. The silver-blue Spraymaster sprayer ($6.10) is designed to be used for diluted acetone (SPI wax & grease remover), the gold-black sprayer ($2.06) is acid resistant and the gray sprayer ($1.56) is the lower price chemical resistant one. If you have soapy solutions they have a sprayer that shoots it out as foam. If you go to their site, be forewarned it's a terribly large rabbit hole and I believe Harvey and his very extended family lives in there.
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Gloves: I bought these on recommendation of my local Advance Auto parts counter guy, he said their pro mechanic customers buy them there at Advance. I haven't tried any brand since for years now. (And I order them from Dr. Bezo's Private Space Program on the Internet.) Tears and holes are not a common thing, certainly not a first 5 minutes thing! More like an "eventually after many hours/long jobs/several wearings."

1661629175229.png


I was very tempted by the prices I've heard about at HF, but when I tried to shop for them, with my coupon, I quickly ran into:

a) this glove section is large but not necessarily in good order
2) the item #'s on the price tags on the shelves here are so tiny that I really cannot read them in the time allotted today, and I gave up

Third factor that has kept me from HF gloves and other ones people like:
III - black gloves. Sorry, I want to know how dirty my gloves are before I touch some non-shop things or things inside a car. I actually wash my hands with my gloves on and you'd be surprised how reasonably clean you can get them with simple bar soap



And sure, sizing matters!

Knew a prison guard who liberated a box of gloves from his workplace, the kind used to (ahem) search inmates. They're surgical gloves but they're silly thick/tough. I don't even use them, they get saved for some future very dirty very tough job.
I never understood why that thing in the dashboard of my car was called a glove compartment. At no time in my life have I ever opened one that contained a single glove. My garage has a cabinet that definitely qualifies as a glove compartment (in addition to a few drawers with garden/work gloves in them.
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At the moment, the best ones are the Tuffster gloves. They are 8mil thick so they don't tear when I put them on but they are a ***** to get off if I haven't worn them long enough to work up a sweat. The Raven gloves are easy to get on and off but are only 6mil. I ordered one more box of gloves: Adenna Dark Light 9 mil Nitrile Powder Free Exam Gloves in XL size. Only the fingers are 9mil, with the rest of the glove being around 6mil.

Wow, don’t know if I’m at a doctors office, a spa, or Twilight Zone 😜

Some good tips though. Bob I like the glove installer ring.
Shorty, if you'll take a seat on the Group W bench, I'll see about getting you in for a full body cavity search. Hopefully you're not allergic to Nitrile.
I always wondered how a one handed person got a rubber glove on.


Now what is the sound of one hand clapping?
Uncle Willie, I wondered that as well until I my hand developed Vitilago, probably because of my years of immersing my hand in nasty chemicals. Turns out it isn't impossible to do without help. Liane saw me struggling one day and offered to help. Soon after the glove was halfway on she left the garage and never offered help again.
Bob:

a) One more detail about Udder Creme -- it's just a bunch of lanolin, really. Which is nice! And is also what you get when you buy Fluid Film. One is pure white, the other light brown and in aerosol form. Lanolin is our friend.

2) I wondered if it was just me with those gloves I recommended, and I took a peek at amazon reviews the other night and I'm not alone, people do like these more than other latex gloves. Of course, your 4" pipe stretch for the cuff is a specific requirement. I can mail you a glove sampler if you'd like.

@Squankum, I assumed it had lanolin and I'm giving it a try today (I thank you, Jeff).

No sooner did I order the 9mil finger gloves than the ones you recommended dropped in price (I curse you, Jeff). If these new gloves aren't the greatest thing since sliced cheese, I'll take you up on the offer. If they are the cheesiest, I'll mail a pair of samples.
 
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And sure, sizing matters!
@Squankum, the sizing suggestions make no sense. My hand isn't that huge (4.25" across the palm). The Microflex gloves you recommend tell me I should buy the smallest (XS) glove they sell (5.5-6") The Adenna Dark Light (oxymoron?) gloves I ordered tell me I should buy their next-to-largest size (XL) (4.53").
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@Squankum, the sizing suggestions make no sense. My hand isn't that huge (4.25" across the palm). The Microflex gloves you recommend tell me I should buy the smallest (XS) glove they sell (5.5-6") The Adenna Dark Light (oxymoron?) gloves I ordered tell me I should buy their next-to-largest size (XL) (4.53").
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Bob, almost as if you willed it to happen, Project Farm just did his evaluation on the "best" gloves...
Enjoy
 

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That chart got a lot of complaints in the amazon reviews, I noticed. They just don't know how to translate these things into Murkin. The chart should read:

Can't quite palm a basketball? XL
Can palm a basketball? XXL

 
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Bob, almost as if you willed it to happen, Project Farm just did his evaluation on the "best" gloves...
Enjoy
That chart got a lot of complaints in the amazon reviews, I noticed. They just don't know how to translate these things into Murkin. The chart should read:

Can't quite palm a basketball? XL
Can palm a basketball? XXL

@Squankum, very interesting glove tests. The only one I have experience with is the Raven. When the Dark Light gloves arrived today, I immediately pulled one out and tried it on. I thought my difficulties with gloves was a figment of my imagination because I put the glove on with no assist and no fight. Took the glove outside and handled all the yard cuttings, recycled cardboard and garbage. The glove is tough but I could feel well enough to use the keyboard when I came back in. To take the glove off I used my teeth to grab the cuff and peel it off inside out.

After dinner and some TV time I went back and turned the glove right side out and put it back on. It is by far the easiest to put on Nitrile glove I've ever tried. I didn't have a coin to test dexterity but I found a perfect small solder sphere and was able to pick it up with no drama. Pretty good for a 9mil finger. It's an XL glove so it isn't too surprising that it's easy to put on but once on it is amazingly tight fitting.
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I got a Raven glove out and put it on. Instant reminder Nitrile gloves are a ***** to put on. It's a 6mil glove, same as the body of the Dark Light glove but I had to go through a bunch of gyrations to get the Raven on to the same point. It doesn't fit as snugly either.
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The Raven has a longer cuff so that's a plus I guess. When It was time to take the Raven glove off, I used the same technique as the Dark Light glove -- gripped the cuff in my teeth and before the glove moved at all, the cuff tore.
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It has been a long time but in my youth I could palm a basketball. Actually, not any basketball, the ones I could palm were Spalding. We didn't have any Wilson basketballs in my neighborhood.
Can palm 2 basketballs xxxl
Uncle Willie, the second basketball is a problem for me. Hey, even when I had two, my left hand was for a glove or tossing the ball to hit it with a bat or racket.
 
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My nitrile glove of choice is whatever they stock at work... Right now, they have this two-layer 9-mil job that's incredibly difficult to don and doff yet incredibly easy to rip through both layers. They're amazingly bad. But free...
Tom, I usually figure cheap is good, free is better but that sounds like no glove is better than free glove.
 

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My nitrile glove of choice is whatever they stock at work... Right now, they have this two-layer 9-mil job that's incredibly difficult to don and doff yet incredibly easy to rip through both layers. They're amazingly bad. But free...

GeddyT:
The company that makes these gloves is hard at work trying to make them smell like bear farts, too.
 

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I get the 9 mil black ones at horror fright, they hold up fairly well for me. I bought a number of boxes of the blue 5 mil from a young guy that had a bunch left over from his Matco "experience"..... Meh - I gave a couple boxes away just to get rid of them.

Other types of gloves:
Nancy, my SO, has a son that works in a GM parts plant, handling raw and partially machined engine parts. They use a variety of gloves, including some Kevlar knits with and without what looks like a nitrile coating on the front side of the fingers. If they fit snug, the tactile feeling is still pretty good. The seat covers in my Z71 came with one Kevlar glove and one plain cotton. I guess they assumed you could only reach into the depths under the seat where sharks live one hand at a time..... bean counters......
 
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I have happily wasted a lot of time replacing a fresh air tube on the Corvette. It all started in 1995, when I polished the intake and the original valve covers. I thought they were painted aluminum but discovered they were magnesium. Magnesium tarnishes immediately.
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Having just retired and afraid we would be homeless if I wasted any money on aluminum valve covers, I bought chrome plated steel. It turns out the valve cover mounting bolts are offset so they only go on one way. The manufacturer of the covers I bought put the holes in different locations from stock so that rubber hose and metal pipe running from the throttle body to the rear hole had to be relocated.
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When I replaced the valve seals in 2012 our financial situation had improved so I splurged on the roller rockers and tall aluminum valve covers. These covers came with bosses that allowed me to accurately add a second hole. Turned out I needed the second hole on the PCV valve side of the engine (with the hole directly adjacent).
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I'm sure the original pipe is in a well-marked box in the attic but back then I just wanted to finish so I put a cap on the throttle body pipe and a breather in the hole. I also modified the EGR pipe to clear the breather.
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I thought it was a good idea to make a custom pipe to return the system to its original configuration and ordered four 36" long pieces of 1/2" aluminum tube (.055" wall). Got out my fancy Ridgid tubing bender and snapped off the end of the first pipe. I remembered a Jesse James show from years ago showing how to anneal aluminum to make it more malleable. I also remember him using an acetylene torch to blacken the aluminum. Not having my O/A torch tanks filled, I checked the Internet and found an annealing tip: apply magic marker marks along the pipe and heat the pipe until the marks disappear. Never heard of that but I do have an antique MAPP torch (the kind that works real good).
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I was very surprised at how well the bends turned out and my first attempt worked but I miscalculated the location of the bends, failing to correct the problem on the second try. Not sure where this piece of modern art will be displayed....
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I haven't done a lot of pipe bending and failed to realize the very tight turn at the end of the tube wouldn't allow the tool to flare the end. My third attempt came real close but once again there wasn't room for the 37° flaring tool. The 'final' solution was to make up a short -8 rigid tube, a couple of flare nuts with sleeves, a couple of elbows and a short braided stainless line. I will probably try again but this is good enough for now. This little project tested my patience but I learned a few things and had fun.
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GeddyT:
The company that makes these gloves is hard at work trying to make them smell like bear farts, too.
@Squankum, if you have a contact at that company, something in my slotted screwdriver drawer should work well for them.
I always remember to put on my gloves after I grab something nasty.
Uncle Willie, was that you watching me pick up a bucket of rotting vegetation with my bare hand yesterday?
I get the 9 mil black ones at horror fright, they hold up fairly well for me. I bought a number of boxes of the blue 5 mil from a young guy that had a bunch left over from his Matco "experience"..... Meh - I gave a couple boxes away just to get rid of them.

Other types of gloves:
Nancy, my SO, has a son that works in a GM parts plant, handling raw and partially machined engine parts. They use a variety of gloves, including some Kevlar knits with and without what looks like a nitrile coating on the front side of the fingers. If they fit snug, the tactile feeling is still pretty good. The seat covers in my Z71 came with one Kevlar glove and one plain cotton. I guess they assumed you could only reach into the depths under the seat where sharks live one hand at a time..... bean counters......
Gerry, I have a box of the 9 mil HF gloves and they work great once it get it on. Unfortunately I spend the better part of the workday getting one on. They are so tough to stretch I have a hard time getting them on my 4" PVC helper and then they pop off before I can get past the cuff. Those Kevlar gloves sound great and might save me a few pints of blood a year.

I re-upholstered the vinyl seats in the '74 Fiat X1/9 and the leather ones in the '87 Corvette. Not sure I could get a good enough grip on the material wearing gloves of any kind. One of the few jobs when working in A/C isn't as productive as sweating in the sun.
 

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Bob, I haven't told the tale at my thread yet, but could have just used some Gates PCV/EEC hose and spent less time? No, about as much time haggling with auto parts clerks in three different stores trying to buy that kind of hose and not just carb fuel hose, as you did bending tubing.
 
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Bob, I haven't told the tale at my thread yet, but could have just used some Gates PCV/EEC hose and spent less time? No, about as much time haggling with auto parts clerks in three different stores trying to buy that kind of hose and not just carb fuel hose, as you did bending tubing.
@Squankum, I know I should keep it simple but I have a crush on fancy engine plumbing. I will never achieve the look I'm after...
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...but I have to try. I also have to justify the $186.45 I spent on a 1/2" Ridgid tubing bender.Ridgid 38048 Model 608.jpg
This tool makes bends that look real close to a mandrel bend (once tube is annealed).
 

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Like you Bob, I have a thing for polished tubing in an engine bay. When I built our 1940 Chev coupe as well as our 120" mid-engine sandrail I spent a lot of time and effort in relation to tubing. NOS lines, fuel lines, brake lines, etc. were all bent, polished and then used nice billet clamps to secure them to the frames.

As for tube benders, I use the same exact Ridgid benders. I have them in 3/16 through 1/2" and they are the best ones I have found to create nice smooth radius bends.
 

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Bob, the newest Jay Leno's Garage car profile has some fancy engine bay plumbing and brightwork. I've cued it up. Also, at the 10:45 mark, a nautical communication device that's a hoot if you're not the one having to obey it.

Some $12,000 Italian car:

 
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