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camaross

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I am having some bad luck with Snap on tools recently.

My phillip #0 mini screwdriver was completely twisted while I was trying to use it to turn some screws on my laptop computer.

My newly received brand new tamper-resistant Torx socket bit's center hole is way off the center.
 
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nate379

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I bought a dual 80 3/8" flex head long handle and the handle was all rough and the chrome ugly. Wasn't worth the time to send it back, but I wasn't all that happy about it.
 

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do you have anyone to take care of it for you? snap on customer service will fix your problem if you are not called on by a dealer.
877 762 7662 snap on Crystal lake National Customer service center
 

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I bought a dual 80 3/8" flex head long handle and the handle was all rough and the chrome ugly. Wasn't worth the time to send it back, but I wasn't all that happy about it.

Yeah, for the price those tools need to be damn near perfect.
 
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camaross

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Thank you for the information. I will see if I can catch a Snap on dealer first. If that does not work, I will call the number.

I do not know who makes those mini screwdrivers for Snap on, but I am afraid they will give me another piece of junk.

Damn my $70. I should have just spent a fraction of that and bought a set of Wiha, Wera, or even Gearwrench from Amazon instead. :lol_hitti





do you have anyone to take care of it for you? snap on customer service will fix your problem if you are not called on by a dealer.
877 762 7662 snap on Crystal lake National Customer service center
 

nate379

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Doesn't affect the use of the tool and the roughness isn't felt so not worth the hassle. The fact that they shipped it out grinds my gears a bit though. Why should the customer be QAing very expensive tools?

Yeah, for the price those tools need to be damn near perfect.
 

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the ones that ship the tools may have never used that tool or just read the pick slip and box it up. so they may not see it as you and I would. My wife sees it like this. A tool is a tool. now she knows snap on is top dog, but she could care less most of the time.
 

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the ones that ship the tools may have never used that tool or just read the pick slip and box it up. so they may not see it as you and I would. My wife sees it like this. A tool is a tool. now she knows snap on is top dog, but she could care less most of the time.

I hear you my wife feels the same way,if I kick the bucket they will end up in a garage sale.
 

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Snap on is no different than any other manufacturing company, All employees have bad days and sometimes things slip past QC. I received a couple Ratchets that had factory spots on the head in the chrome, But it didnt affect the use so i didnt even try to remedy the issue thru snap on. I am very confident that with 1 phone call or email that Snap on would have quickly replaced the tools at there expense.

Steven
 

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Quality control mishaps is nothing new with Snap-on. :)

Consumers are probably more demanding than ever though, expecting flawless or near flawless fit and finishing, comparable to what's been shipped over from Taiwan/Japan. If companies like Snap-On don't ramp up their QC at all stages in production, there'll be more unhappy customers down the road.
 

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I'm glad you guys reminded me. I've got a defective 7/16" wrench I need to send in. It has a box end broached off center. All three dealers in town refused to replace it.
 

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I'm glad you guys reminded me. I've got a defective 7/16" wrench I need to send in. It has a box end broached off center. All three dealers in town refused to replace it.

Why did they refuse to replace the wrench ?
 

ricleh

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I am having some bad luck with Snap on tools recently.

My phillip #0 mini screwdriver was completely twisted while I was trying to use it to turn some screws on my laptop computer.


In my experience with computers and laptops there are no Phillips screws used in their manufacture. They all use JIS standard screws. You need to get a JIS screwdriver if you don't want to mess up those screws.
 

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In all fairness with Snap-On defective tools are the exception and not the rule. Sometimes something slips by QC. I've had a few defects over the years but considering how many of their tools I've puchaced over 40+ years it doesn't happen very often in my case. However......... For the money you spend on a Snap-On tool it needs to look as good as it works. If there is something about the way it looks and I don't like it I expect them to replace it ASAP. If anyone is going to chip the chrome off my new Ratchet it's going to be me. Most of the time I'll hold a ratchet and look it over good before I leave the truck. Things that are packaged up I may not open for days. Just never had a problem returning stuff to a snap on dealer. If I did I could ruin the tool and get it replaced anyway.
As many problems with the Duel 80 that I hear about and some guys I know with the same complaint they need to recall those things. Sometimes the design team blows one out of their rectums. Problems like that arn't typical of Snap-On
 
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I've had problems with the dealer not wanting to take care of warranty tools, too. Three screwdrivers that spin inside the handle, but he didn't think they did (?). One screwdriver (phillips) has chewed up tip... he refused that one, too.

Chrome is delaminating from two of my brake bleeder wrenches, too. I think I'll just call the 800 number and skip the whole dealer frustration.

Craftsman, for all its flaws, never gives me a minute of guff...
 

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Guys I am sorry that you have such a hard time with warranty.
One of my only refusals was to a jerk that left it under the tank ( paladin ) that he was working on. Needless to say it was flatten on the handle and th blade was bent. He came in demanding warranty and before I could actually tell him no my good customers threw his **** out of the truck. he never came back.
 

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Man, I sure do love my dealer
respect to me thus I respect him
even if I just come on to warranty something he still makes sure I take a piece of candy or a donut
we have even had lunch before one time
hes a pretty neat guy
 

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Last one we had, couldn't even get him to come by so we could put an order in. 3 toolboxes with tools, close to $30,000 order. I ended up going to Matco over it actually.
 

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Yep, same here... a few years back my boss was ready to drop $10k on completely re-outfitting the shop. We called two area snap-on drivers several times and informed them that if they showed up at our shop (aerospace R&D), just once, they would end up with $10k in sales on the spot.

After 3 phone calls to each, and several broken promises to show up, neither one of them could be bothered to show up and claim their $10k. edit: FYI, both rudely acted as if we were wasting their time by calling and trying to give them thousands of dollars.

Even worse, one of them stopped weekly at an auto garage about 150 yards away... so we know it had nothing to do with going out of his way or anything. Later we heard from the owner of the shop that the driver was talking **** about how he doesn't sell to "people who don't actually USE their tools".... what an ******* snob. We USE our tools... on multimillion dollar equipment. I guess snap-on isn't up to the task.

It was just pure, unadulterated snap-snobbery. Since then I vowed never to spend a dime on any snap-on tool, ever. No offense to the good dealers, but I just can't live with giving even a penny of my money to jerkoffs like that... so damn stuck on themselves that they can't even see the forest through the trees.

If I have to survive with lower quality tools just so I don't belong to that particular breed of jackass, then so be it. Maybe that makes me a snap-on hating jackass myself, but I'm more than happy to bear that title.

To top it off, we're really light on our tools since none of the equipment is ever dirty or rusted, so they would have had any sales they made free and clear with little to no warranty claims... plus we would probably have spent more per week than the cheapskates at the shop down the street.
 
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fireball 440

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My snap on 3/8 air ratchet has been a POS since day one. Burnt up in first 3 months, sent it in for rebuild got it back 6 months later, burnt up again 3 months later and dealer wouldn't do a thing about it. That and the slides on one of the doors on my snap on cabinet came apart into a thousand pieces.
 

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maybe i should warranty my 11mm socket... it got weird-*** light blurr scratch-marks on chrome... i'm pretty sure that i didn't make that scatch marks. and i should of checked all the sockets closely when i got them... next purchase, i'll do...
 
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camaross

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JIS standard is about the thread not the screw head, right?

I am pretty sure, mine are phillips screws.


In my experience with computers and laptops there are no Phillips screws used in their manufacture. They all use JIS standard screws. You need to get a JIS screwdriver if you don't want to mess up those screws.
 

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JIS standard is about the thread not the screw head, right?

I am pretty sure, mine are phillips screws.

Its actual head is JIS cross-head, not the thread...
Japanese cross-head is not actually phillips head... that's why japanese call them "cross" and "plus"
andlotted types "minus."
 
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wafrederick

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I have been hearing more warranty problems too and it was was from the Matco dealer that stops by on Fridays where I work at.A customer in the Ludington,Mi area handed a couple broken sockets to his dealer and got them handed back.Dealer would not warranty them because they were not purchased from this dealer.My father had bad service with a dealer which he kicked out 12 years ago.Never came around at all,came late after hours mainly 9:00 at night.Dealer came back with this excuse,I have my route all fixed and coming on time.My father did not take that excuse.Told him there is the door and do not come back.This dealer my father kicked out would not warranty anything worn out and said anything worn out is not covered.Now take anything broken to a dealer down the road in my area and he is home most weekends.I have been told one dealer did and is no longer a dealer.Decided to mix rocks with warrantied tools and send them to Snap On this way.This dealer did get caught doing this,Snap On opened the boxes up and found this.
 

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I've stopped buying many Snap-on tools due to quality slipping. Snap-on tools that I purchased in the 1980s and 1990s were about as well made and finished as you could want. And (to me), they were worth their higher price over other brands for that reason.

The latest Snap-on line wrenches I purchased showed tool marks in the open faces and poor chrome that would not have been acceptable even a few years ago. Companies like Proto, Facom and Wright offer better value on many tools.

Additionally, I prefer that my tools are stamped "USA". Snap-on doesn't have the same concern.
 

brian90505

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I am having some bad luck with Snap on tools recently.

My phillip #0 mini screwdriver was completely twisted while I was trying to use it to turn some screws on my laptop computer.

My newly received brand new tamper-resistant Torx socket bit's center hole is way off the center.

Not a valid enough reason to post as a Snap-on quality issue far as I'm concerned. Just exchange em.

The small tools like your #0 phillips as well as tiny torx and allens sometimes get twisted or broken just because they are so small. I twisted a small allen a couple days ago at work. No biggie and I don't blame Snap-on.

And as for the off-center hole, that's rare for S/O. Check it when you get your replacement.
 

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To me it's a real shame that some Snap-On dealers feel like they are above everybody else and have that "Look down their nose at other people" When my last Snap-On dealer started he had that really snobish attitude. I caught him off to the side one day and told him if he needed to be a little more pleasant to my guys or he wouldn't be allowed back on my property. I told him that he had a product that sold itself but you have to have the right attitude to keep selling. Sometimes you just have to tell people they need an attitude adjustment.
 

brian90505

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I agree MrHS. I had a dealer like that awhile back. He was cool, but could be a real **** at times. Right now my regular guy is Chad Schlucter. He is very accomodating and helps with all issues.
 

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I have had to warranty a few items but only one of them was new (T55 Torx not square cut on the end). Never had a problem with my dealer and I don't wrench for a living, just on the families cars. Even went to his house with my wife and 3 other couples (customers also) for the 4th of July. Had a great time, ate, shot some fireworks and went home. He might be one in a million but the other guys in this area don't have a problem getting tools made up either.

The Matco, Mac and other Snap-on dealers in this area are nice, helpful, will warranty a tool without a receipt and not give you a hard time doing it even if you do not buy anything from them. They have never been anything other than friendly to me. I have seen them get into someone’s face but the individual that happened to got on the truck with such a piss poor attitude, I would have been tempted to shoot him instead of asking him to leave...

Even then, the guy had his tool made up but he was forced to give it to another tech who then brought it out to the truck...No problem replacing the tool but the dealer could never figure out how to replace the tech....:)
 
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