Recent content by Last_Indian

Out of all those jaw designs, which would you say is the best all round set?

Thats certainly a fair size collection you have there... From a personal point of view the Facom 513's where a possible option after my disappointment with the 500's I ordered. There's enough uncertainty regards where and who the 513' are made by that I probably wouldn't buy now. Certainly not...

Best pictures I could find of the three in modern finish. Rivet types the same on these. Picture angles a little different on each, but they do look very similar.

Regards the finish, I wouldn't take that into account as they will finish to suit the manufacturer/reseller. SNAP ON have a grey enamel for example and Grip Ons are now black and orange... Beta shiny silver from i've seen. Rivets have been either round heads (older style) or the newer concave...

Good picture of some of the makes that have been mentioned...

Now that's just rubbing it in :)

Thanks for the pictures! They do like nice and to my mind exactly like the Beta/Grip On variants in those pics. I think the newer types have a concave/button type rivet head as opposed to the round heads you have. The rounded ones are more old school... which is always cool

I believe they're all coming out of France, but not sure if that is a Facom plant or just a generic operation rebadging as required. It would explain the quality variations if it was. Any chance of a pic of your 513's?

I don't actually own the 513's, I was looking to buy on the basis they where rebadged Grip On. That's where the thread started regards opinions on Grip On's, but I don't know for sure?? The newer 513.10's look very similar to Grip On and Beta etc, but if you own those makes, would be good to...

Tried two sets and both had issues. Supplier doesn't seem to agree saying he inspected them and they are fine. I cant be bothered to argue, so will take my custom elsewhere in future.

That's interesting... I know the 580 are basically CH Hanson (China), though the ones I've seen seem fairly well made. Is that inventory absolutely correct, cause they do look identical to Grip On right down to the rivets? I cant access his site anymore from the UK. Stupid internet (EURO) regs...

Yea... those look lovely and better than the ones I got! Maybe its a bad batch, but supplier does not seem to agree with me, so I will have to purchase Facom elsewhere from now on. In my view he should bring the issue up with Facom directly and see what they have to say about it. Only takes...

Yes they are here in the UK. I already have one of the utility flip knifes which is nice. I will check them out for sure.

Thanks for the input guys... I'll take a look at those makes mentioned. Would be so much easier if you could actually see most of these in the flesh, but good tool shops are few are far between near me.

Wouldn't go as far as garbage, just not up to expectations at the price (£40ish). Grip On (Facom 513) I can get for half that, but I would like something fairly decent. I have a lot of Facom and generally you get what you pay for in fit and finish. Sometimes factory inconsistency can...