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Above 1200 Sq/FT My Retirement Shop, Pole Barns, Old Truck and Questionable Decisions Thread

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Dang, your pictures remind of when I did the work underneath my shed when it was first built. learned a lot real fast on what to when this isn’t in my normal wheelhouse. Glad it seemed to have worked for me, and glad it is working for you.
 
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That'll be a great shop. Are you planning to pour concrete to connect from the shop doors to the sidewalk?

Edit: Disregard. Looking closer at the pic, I can tell that's asphalt. I thought it was a gian tarp the concrete guys spread to protect your gravel driveway, or a weed deterrent layer, or something.
 
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That'll be a great shop. Are you planning to pour concrete to connect from the shop doors to the sidewalk?

Edit: Disregard. Looking closer at the pic, I can tell that's asphalt. I thought it was a gian tarp the concrete guys spread to protect your gravel driveway, or a weed deterrent layer, or something.
Hard to tell what it is it is so covered in mud...lol.

I am putting a concrete apron out front, 23' out from the building where it meets the asphalt and the full 68' length of the building.

Had so much rain here, everything is covered in mud.
 
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Shed update. Molly’s footprints were only in dust, not actually in the concrete. Concrete in the interior is done. Patio just needs the cuts made and the forms removed. Calling for more rain tomorrow so who knows when they can get the apron done.

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After a week delay for a trip back to Maryland, and then the cold snap that held up the concrete for the apron we are finally moving ahead again.

Insulation and pulins going in today.

Hopefully get the concrete for the apron and the pad for propane tank poured next week.

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I know the feeling. Maybe I missed this part, but what kind of work are you planning on doing in it? What kind of tools and equipment will it be outfitted with?
Going to be multi-purpose

1. A garage for our car, truck, mower, JD Gator, yard equip, etc.. Just keep stuff out of the weather.
2. Storage for stuff we should probably get rid of anyway
3. The end that doesn't have an overhead door and the carport will be hang out/beer drinking spot.

The carport will have a grill, flat-top, smoker, a double deep sink with H&C water + a patio set on it. Pretty much an outdoor kitchen. I like cooking which is a good thing since my wife can burn water plus this will keep the mess out of the house.

I am also looking for a project car.
Prior to going in the Navy I worked in a high end bodyshop for a couple years and really enjoyed it.

Once the building is done, I'd like to find a 1962-63 Chevy II to work on.

As far as equipping it. I am planning on a 2-stage Emax compressor with the building plumbed for air with RapidAir aluminum piping, a Lincoln 211i Mig welder and a yet to be picked out plasma cutter. I have 12' ceilings so I could put a lift in it but I haven't decided yet. I am already over budget so we may have to add equipment a little at at time.
 

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I Like your build, i am looking at building a 40x100 in the near future 50' shop 50' storage for tractors and trailers. I had the same idea to use a hydrant to provide water to my shop.
 
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I Like your build, i am looking at building a 40x100 in the near future 50' shop 50' storage for tractors and trailers. I had the same idea to use a hydrant to provide water to my shop.
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I didn't come up with that on my own. That is a pretty common set up around here.

That hydrant will be connected to the buildings plumbing via a short hose.
Should I want to leave for awhile and shut the heat off in the building, I can just close the hydrant, disconnect the hose, drain the water heater and lines and walk away without fear of the lines freezing and breaking.
 
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For me, I think it's the little things you've thought about, like the drain cleanout on the downspouts, and the bollards at the doors. Stuff that costs very little now, and will save you a bunch of headache in the future.
Thanks - I have tried to talk to as many people as I can and try and learn what really like and what they would have done differently.

Biggest regret I have had so far is the color of the upper half.
We had picked out a darker gray and then my wife decided it was too dark, so we went two shades lighter so it would match the house better.

As it turns out in certain light it does look gray but most of the time it is a stone or oatmeal color.
What I learned is that it is very hard to really determine the color based on a 2" X 2" sample under artificial light.

My advice to anyone is to go look at a completed building in whatever color, in the same metal, by the same manufacturer you are considering before making the final decision on color.

Nothing I can do about it now. The garage doors will be black so I am hoping that will bring the gray out more.

Another regret I already have is I wish I had made the door my wife will use for her car 12' wide instead of 10'. Let's just say driving is not her strong suit. Her car will easily fit in a 10' door if anyone but her was driving, however......
 

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I can semi-relate regarding color choices. I let my wife pick the colors for my shop (which I'm totally happy with). I only just discovered, after ordering another outbuilding in the same colors, that she no longer likes those colors and wants to know how much it would cost to re-skin the shop. :oops: I explained that there is no going back now; the color scheme for our "compound" is set.
 
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One step closer to having electrical service.
FWIW, not a single permit or inspection required.
Just call the power company, make an appointment for them to come out and kill the pole and tie into it.

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Everything was going fine and then the self-appointed inspector showed up.....
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Picked up the scissor lift to install blocking in the ceiling for lights and fan over the weekend. Should be fun doing it in the 20-30s. At least we will be out of the wind.

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More plumbing and they are starting on finishing the interior.

Double deep sink on the patio with hot and cold water, deep sink inside with hot and cold water, hot and cold water spigots on patio and just inside first garage door for washing car, trucks and toys. Urinal plumbed into downspout that drains to ditch along side the gravel road.

2x8 blocking for electrical, plumbing and compressed air lines.

Interior finished in white metal.

Electric (120 & 240) will be surface mounted on walls in EMT.

I believe the Christmas Holiday will hold up the garage doors until after the new year.

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Nice shop! I’m just getting started on my shop, still doing the dirt work. I want to add an outdoor kitchen/bar and also have hot and cold water for washing vehicles. I’m liking your faucets and how you are running the water supply to your outdoor cooking area. How are you providing freeze protection for when it gets really cold? Any details on your fixtures? I want to make sure I have everything in place before concrete!
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I Like your build, i am looking at building a 40x100 in the near future 50' shop 50' storage for tractors and trailers. I had the same idea to use a hydrant to provide water to my shop.
Only problem I have found doing this, is that the hydrant is not made to have water in it all the time, and will rust on the inside of the pipe,, ( foot valve supposed to drain the pipe) this means, if you do not use the water for a while, you get this “rusty slug” of water that gets into everything… I had issues with my water heater, as well as using the water for making coffee, etc. I ended cutting mine back out of the floor and installing a copper pipe/valve…figure i would throw some insulation on it if needed
 
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Nice shop! I’m just getting started on my shop, still doing the dirt work. I want to add an outdoor kitchen/bar and also have hot and cold water for washing vehicles. I’m liking your faucets and how you are running the water supply to your outdoor cooking area. How are you providing freeze protection for when it gets really cold? Any details on your fixtures? I want to make sure I have everything in place before concrete!
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I will have ball valves installed on each line to isolate them.
I am also putting a "T" on each line with a ball valve so I can put blow them out with compressed air when I winterize them.

Although I plan to keep the building heated all winter, I am also putting a drain line on the 30 gallon hot water heater so I can drain it easily should I ever need to turn the heat off in the winter.

I am taking one corner of the building and making a 7'X17' utility room. It will have the breaker panel, water heater, water system manifold, urinal, frost proof hydrant, air compressor and some storage in it. My thought is it will clean up the appearance of the interior and keep all my mechanicals in one area.

Before they poured the concrete, we ran PVC sleeves. Once the concrete was in, we pulled PEX through the PVC sleeves.

These are the spigots I used - From Menards.
I put the spigot on the front of the building just inside the first door. I did that so as to keep the front of the building "clean" without a spigot sticking out. I figure to wash car, truck, Gator, mower, etc, I can just run the hose out the door.

The spigot on the car port / patio I put at the far end from where we will entertain, on the far side of the double deep sink. From where people will sit and hang out, you can't really see it.

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Only problem I have found doing this, is that the hydrant is not made to have water in it all the time, and will rust on the inside of the pipe,, ( foot valve supposed to drain the pipe) this means, if you do not use the water for a while, you get this “rusty slug” of water that gets into everything… I had issues with my water heater, as well as using the water for making coffee, etc. I ended cutting mine back out of the floor and installing a copper pipe/valve…figure i would throw some insulation on it if needed
Valid point. This is a pretty common set-up around here but I suspect very few around here have water heaters in their sheds.

I will see how it goes. Based on your input, I I will put a whole house filter on it prior to it reaching the buildings plumbing.

I did put the hydrant inside a well filled with gravel - it's not cemented in. It can be changed out or removed without having to cut or bust up the floor.

Just ordered the filter. Thanks for the input - I would not have thought of that.

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