My family lives in North Texas just south of the Red River. We have a currently existing metal building that is 12x20. Its used for various bits of storage and for 5 weeks a year we use it to raise the kids 4-H broiler projects. The people we bought the house from have a large metal barn behind us for their RV, storage, tools etc. We bought the house with the idea they would sell the barn and adjoining property to us, but 10 years in that hasn't happened yet and who knows when they will feel like selling.
There is a rusted up 40 year old home depot type metal building next to our chicken barn and a little "garden shed" built for someone about 5ft tall. I'm 6'4" so it isn't very useable. There is also a 12x14 empty space between the cottage and the chicken barn.
Our idea is to demo the garden shed and haul off the old metal building and demo the sporadic concrete that us there in places. Pour a new concrete pad and build either a 27x20 or 27x25 shop in the space.
Have a local metal building guy that does good work and is very honest that will do the build. Thinking regular steel building as red iron sounds like overkill for our purposes.
Part of the impetus for doing this is we need some shop and storage space, also the people who own the big barn have let us store stuff, including our gravely mower in their barn, but are now saying they ned us to move some of it out in the near future. Also our youngest will also be showing broilers in 4-H next year so we need more space for chickens.
My questions:
Insulation- The default answer around here(real world) seems to be 4 inches of closed cell spray foam. But on here yall seem to be more in favor of rockwool or dating or other options. We did spray foam on our other barn, but we only did 2 inches so we need to get that thicker, but just curious what is recommended?
2-Roll up garage doors-Is there a big difference in companies and quality? We have an overhead door co nearby that replaced our home garage door but I know there are other options. I have read a lot about the difficulty of insulating and sealing roll up doors on some older threads, is it still that big of an issue or have they made improvements since 2010 and 2011?
3-On the chicken area, we either make a permanent 10x10 room in the barn that for 5 weeks a year has chickens in it....for the broiler project this is probably the best way to go vs a temporary building in the barn, but it does section off a large area of the shop.
4- our breaker box is currently about maxed out, I have enough left to basically wire the shop, but adding 220 for welding, tools, etc will require either enlarging the breaker box or adding a sub panel I suppose. The house was built in 1970 and the panel is original. I dont think adding a separate meter for the barn makes any sense, but that could be the way to go, suggestions?
U will certainly have more to come but here is a start as we are going at this idea.
Attached is a basic drawing of what we are playing with. The measurements were early, the possible chicken room would probably be 10x10 now.
There is a rusted up 40 year old home depot type metal building next to our chicken barn and a little "garden shed" built for someone about 5ft tall. I'm 6'4" so it isn't very useable. There is also a 12x14 empty space between the cottage and the chicken barn.
Our idea is to demo the garden shed and haul off the old metal building and demo the sporadic concrete that us there in places. Pour a new concrete pad and build either a 27x20 or 27x25 shop in the space.
Have a local metal building guy that does good work and is very honest that will do the build. Thinking regular steel building as red iron sounds like overkill for our purposes.
Part of the impetus for doing this is we need some shop and storage space, also the people who own the big barn have let us store stuff, including our gravely mower in their barn, but are now saying they ned us to move some of it out in the near future. Also our youngest will also be showing broilers in 4-H next year so we need more space for chickens.
My questions:
Insulation- The default answer around here(real world) seems to be 4 inches of closed cell spray foam. But on here yall seem to be more in favor of rockwool or dating or other options. We did spray foam on our other barn, but we only did 2 inches so we need to get that thicker, but just curious what is recommended?
2-Roll up garage doors-Is there a big difference in companies and quality? We have an overhead door co nearby that replaced our home garage door but I know there are other options. I have read a lot about the difficulty of insulating and sealing roll up doors on some older threads, is it still that big of an issue or have they made improvements since 2010 and 2011?
3-On the chicken area, we either make a permanent 10x10 room in the barn that for 5 weeks a year has chickens in it....for the broiler project this is probably the best way to go vs a temporary building in the barn, but it does section off a large area of the shop.
4- our breaker box is currently about maxed out, I have enough left to basically wire the shop, but adding 220 for welding, tools, etc will require either enlarging the breaker box or adding a sub panel I suppose. The house was built in 1970 and the panel is original. I dont think adding a separate meter for the barn makes any sense, but that could be the way to go, suggestions?
U will certainly have more to come but here is a start as we are going at this idea.
Attached is a basic drawing of what we are playing with. The measurements were early, the possible chicken room would probably be 10x10 now.
