scooterbum46
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Sorry I mentioned Lista.....
Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
- Thread starter Strouty
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
bowtiguy
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Must be nice living close to the manufacturer, they are like hens teeth out here in Cali-rodo. That why I hauled 8 double door hanging cabinets back with me from Illinois on the last trip.I am pretty sure that Lista cabinets are my boats...
I have to go back and pick up the rest of them tomorrow morning.
scooterbum46
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Based on a quick survey of Marketplace in my area, you have found the truth that we're missing - that Lista products are a better investment than either gold or silver bars for the future SHTF.
The rusty thing is $250, the roller cabinet is $450. Lots of single items for $500 to a $1000 or more.
Strouty, you are a genius!
The rusty thing is $250, the roller cabinet is $450. Lots of single items for $500 to a $1000 or more.
Strouty, you are a genius!
casmurbax
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WTF... The things you run across and get.....
Prospecter
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Sounds like you personal shopper aka your buddy is very helpful at spending your money!
In this instance he was more looking out for me, I am heavily invested in the 6.5 diesels and this particular item is not something that comes along very often, especially at a good price. Also going to be getting lots of parts for the rebuild process.Sounds like you personal shopper aka your buddy is very helpful at spending your money!
Yesterday was a bit of a scramble, had to move some stuff outside and cover it with a tarp, we needed the room inside to work on the Lista cabinets today. I have things figured out so I get the best bang for the buck, I am pretty excited about it, some of the cabinets were the same size as some of my shallow storage wall and that has been almost wasted space without drawers, now I have lots of drawers!
casmurbax
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Did you sell the tower trailer?
No, I haven’t even gotten it home yet. I need to get the wheels out of the mud and free up the brakes, check out the lights and strap everything down with some new straps. Maybe next weekend I can take Perk to pick it up, all the roads around the Salvage Garage are posted and I can’t drive one them until the frost is out, might have to bring it to the Hill, that town doesn’t post the roads at all.
I did get to change the batteries (remote and main unit) in the remote trailer moved, it moves no problem, next will be to take it to the Quonset hut and play around with it. The thing is pretty interesting how they made it, uses two winches with sprockets attached, one for each wheel.
bimmer1980
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Build a versatube shed "shell" over it???
casmurbax
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That looks nice.
The tool, not the snow.
The tool, not the snow.
I am going to tarp it for tonight, should be able to get it inside the shop tomorrow, going to rain Monday. I just hope the forklift can make it happen, very weird layout, I feel like it should have had fork pockets. The gantry doesn’t move, so I am shifting the table all the way to the opposite side, then bringing the router head all the way over, so it is close to the fork carriage. I will have a fork under each of the structural areas, but the balance will not be the way I would like it. It only weighs 6000 pounds, so should be ok offset as the forklift is rated for 8000. We will find out shortly!
casmurbax
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Luckily it looks like your ground isn't total mush yet.
scooterbum46
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I'm confused - that looks to be a specialized CNC router with limited Z Axis range. What ARE you planning - cupboard door manufacturing, knockdown furniture kits or maybe parts for rockets?
I actually bought this for the parts to build a rugged smaller footprint router. I am on the fence though, while it takes up more space than I would like, it is built like a brick **** house. I was planning on using it for cabinet doors, so you were right on that, then there is cutting plywood, lexan, or aluminum. It has a 5x5 vacuum table and two spindles (one off the back of the main motor), then it has a drill bank with (I think) 9 vertical spindles and two horizontal ones. The previous owner upgraded the Z axis, so it has a bit more than normal travel. When the computer died, they wanted Thermwood to retrofit it, but it was $80k and that was what they paid for it new so they just upgraded to a larger machine.
I got the router, the vacuum pump, the control cabinet, and the step up transformer (it is 480 volt) all for a $1,000. The transformer is worth that, if not more.
scooterbum46
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As a veteran tech scrounge, let me be the first to say "You ****" !!!
You could make add-on kits for IKEA furniture, or giant model airplane kits.
The guys that sold it to me were adamant that it worked fine and that they actually wanted to retrofit it, but financially it made more sense to just upgrade. I just wish it wasn’t so big, the table moves front to back instead of the router, essentially doubling the size of the floor space you need. I am probably going to mess with it a bit and see if the control is really gone or if it needs some repairs that I can do. Most likely I will be using the Masso controls and servo motors from the Matsuura.
That is a hell of a machine. While the bead slinger takes up more floor space, it is much faster and more rigid than moving the head.
Retrofitting it with a Masso is going to be a chore though. They make good stuff, but they don't give you a ton of flexibility. That is fine and even advantageous when build a custom machine or a simple CNC conversion/refit. However, it is a pain when trying to adapt to existing industrial systems. There is a lot going on there, if you can leave it mostly stock, you will be miles ahead.
I think it will also be a nightmare to build a post processor to program that machine. As normal you have a huge heavy project. However, you get it working and will have an absolute beast.
Retrofitting it with a Masso is going to be a chore though. They make good stuff, but they don't give you a ton of flexibility. That is fine and even advantageous when build a custom machine or a simple CNC conversion/refit. However, it is a pain when trying to adapt to existing industrial systems. There is a lot going on there, if you can leave it mostly stock, you will be miles ahead.
I think it will also be a nightmare to build a post processor to program that machine. As normal you have a huge heavy project. However, you get it working and will have an absolute beast.
I have also been looking at Linux CNC, so that may be the better option, it will interface with older stuff through daughter cards allowing you to use newer computer hardware with older style servos and industrial controls. I am going to wire it up and see what happens, it will be educational as I have never dealt with the step up transformer before. I won’t be able to do anything major as I have not installed my large rotary phase converter yet. Been working through the logistics of that, hopefully in April I will be setup. I am thinking I might do a second panel that has 480 in it, that way I can easily test other machines. I am not really sure about that, I have essentially ignored higher voltage machines.
LinuxCNC with Mesa cards is how I would go. You would be able to retain all of the current functionality and even add new functionallity.
The problem is there is no free lunch. Masso makes things simple but limits you. LinuxCNC can do almost anything, but has a steep learning curve. For a mill conversion, Masso all day every day. For a machine with multiple controls and 11ish spindles in different locations absolutely LinuxCNC. There is a reason the OEM wanted close to the replacement price to retrofit it.
Good luck, I predict many headaches ahead but I think it will be an awesome machine when all is said and done.
dr_clyde
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What do you have that runs the 6.5? Is that what you have in your various Suburbans? I haven't seen you run one of those in a while...
FarmerWill
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Over a year being off this place... I come back to find everyone still doing their thing....
Life is good....Back to shop!
Life is good....Back to shop!
I have a pickup truck that has one, several Suburbans, an HD series or two, and I am thinking about using one in the M37. Right now only one is partially on the road, been using the Ford for most things as the brakes on the 6.5 pickup are less than good. I will always have a few of them floating around.
I am actually just getting ready to go to the Salvage Garage, been doing office stuff and have help tomorrow, so I need to break down a couple things to make some space to work. The way I left it there was a small goat path to get from one side of the shop to the other and the only way to get to the kitchen/DVD storage is to follow that path around a corner and then come back again, but it is currently a dead end, so it takes a while to make the journey. I have one more cabinet to assemble and then some decisions need to be made about what is staying and what is going. I had a totally different plan, but then the Lista cabinets showed up. Also have one more CNC machine to pickup and possibly another couple laser machines, just need some sharks and I can rule the world.
Jayman17
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Please allow me to summarize: Strouty buys stuff, Strouty organizes, Strouty buys stuff, Strouty organizes and Strouty still hates the white stuff. You're welcome!
scooterbum46
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What happened to all the Lista from a few years ago - did that all get used too? Also, just wondering, what does your dad say about your time spent on non-family business stuff? At one time, it sounded like you were expected to drop all anytime something came up he wanted done. (answer optional, NOMFB
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