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I received notification this morning that I was issued a refund of $28.68 followed by an email from the Amazon EBAY seller who had the "Knipex" 10-inch Cobra Water Pump Pliers a few weeks ago.

I sent them an email yesterday:
four.cycle said:
Still awaiting delivery of this item.
USPS tracking says it was not shipped out yet.
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suncoas deals said:
Good morning, we've just issued you a full refund. It appears that USPS has lost the item during shipping, and if a case were started, they would likely just cancel the order anyway. To save you the trouble, we went ahead and processed the refund for you now.
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I checked the tracking number yesterday morning.
The item was NOT shipped out. USPS never took possession of it.

original post from Sep 30

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/127290908556 the 4.25" is 5$ more
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Just came in, well cushioned, not bad at all for the price. There's a bottom guide rod for the jaw to remain parallel & centering v notches both length & cross wise (very handy feature). I think it's on par w/some "Palmgren" one I bought on Amazon a while back w/o the tilt feature. The base is a bit larger than I expected but that one's on me. A bit dirty from grinding dust/oil mixed.
 
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*trust but verify. It's always a pain when I order a collet set and have to check them all for runout. Always open & check for imperfections (& potential partial refunds) when dealing with import bottom of the barrel.
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Bought 2 cheap 5c sets.

Metric 1-28 with tray. Will not fit in my hardinge clone lathe. do fit in my bostar scroll 5c chuck. suspect keyway slot is not correct. tried several. also have very sharp edge that will scratch any parts when inserting or removing. did not check runout. seller offered half refund. I was going to check runout on some and he processed complete refund next day.

1/8"-1" 57 piece set by 64th. Will not fit in my hardinge clone lathe. do fit in my bostar scroll 5c chuck. suspect keyway slot is not correct. only tried the 1" as i needed it now. opened up the keyway and dusted off the sharp edges. runout was horrible. took the collet back out and looking by eye it is not at all centered. seller asked me for a $ number of refund. I was going to check runout on some and he sent shipping label next day. shipped out not returned yet.

side note. the bostar uses a setscrew instead of a key so you can adjust it to make almost anything work.

the single 25mm I bought from haas is beautiful. Have some old shars that are good. may order a 1/64 set from them. waiting on refund to order others.
 
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Brandon_oma#692 said:
Bought 2 cheap 5c sets.

Metric 1-28 with tray. Will not fit in my hardinge clone lathe. do fit in my bostar scroll 5c chuck. suspect keyway slot is not correct. tried several. also have very sharp edge that will scratch any parts when inserting or removing. did not check runout. seller offered half refund. I was going to check runout on some and he processed complete refund next day.

1/8"-1" 57 piece set by 64th. Will not fit in my hardinge clone lathe. do fit in my bostar scroll 5c chuck. suspect keyway slot is not correct. only tried the 1" as i needed it now. opened up the keyway and dusted off the sharp edges. runout was horrible. took the collet back out and looking by eye it is not at all centered. seller asked me for a $ number of refund. I was going to check runout on some and he sent shipping label next day. shipped out not returned yet.

side note. the bostar uses a setscrew instead of a key so you can adjust it to make almost anything work.

the single 25mm I bought from haas is beautiful. Have some old shars that are good. may order a 1/64 set from them. waiting on refund to order others.
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Yeah, good rule of thumb is inspect anything hardened China before throwing it on a spindle.

Lots of 2nd hand 5C hardinge so buying similarly priced import new is hard to justify though there's some vendors (precision matthews comes to mind) that seem to carry decent import stuff. The square and hex import collets are priced well too.

I've had so-so luck w/ER collets I've ordered. ....that 'findmall' seller seems to be both on amazon and ebay and at least runout seems to be OK from what I've bought. Some of the collets aren't pretty (missed split saw nicks and what not) but at least they've read ok. The same seller has different price ranges too, I've paid full retail and the collets were pretty nice looking, all tumbled & ground, no sharp edges and read fine and I've paid discounted prices and they've been in the margin of acceptable (+/- 2-3 thou for what I'm doing) with some cosmetically yucky. The stuff they advertise w/low runout seems to be priced a bit higher.

I bought a different set from another ebay vendor and most of those were terrible, had to clear the slots on all and use a diamond burr on all edges....I think my best fix was 6 thou runout improvement. Then I've bought some deeply discounted ones on Amazon from another rando and all those were perfect. Seems to be the case of 'find a good source' and pay the premium since they likely have A rated/B rated products.
This tool is worth keeping around (just a baby dremel w/diamond burrs that is very handy due to size).

I read/heard an adage once. "Professionals spend money to save time, hobbyists spend time to save money. "
 
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Yeah, good rule of thumb is inspect anything hardened China before throwing it on a spindle.

Lots of 2nd hand 5C hardinge so buying similarly priced import new is hard to justify though there's some vendors (precision matthews comes to mind) that seem to carry decent import stuff. The square and hex import collets are priced well too.

I've had so-so luck w/ER collets I've ordered. ....that 'findmall' seller seems to be both on amazon and ebay and at least runout seems to be OK from what I've bought. Some of the collets aren't pretty (missed split saw nicks and what not) but at least they've read ok. The same seller has different price ranges too, I've paid full retail and the collets were pretty nice looking, all tumbled & ground, no sharp edges and read fine and I've paid discounted prices and they've been in the margin of acceptable (+/- 2-3 thou for what I'm doing) with some cosmetically yucky. The stuff they advertise w/low runout seems to be priced a bit higher.

I bought a different set from another ebay vendor and most of those were terrible, had to clear the slots on all and use a diamond burr on all edges....I think my best fix was 6 thou runout improvement. Then I've bought some deeply discounted ones on Amazon from another rando and all those were perfect. Seems to be the case of 'find a good source' and pay the premium since they likely have A rated/B rated products.
This tool is worth keeping around (just a baby dremel w/diamond burrs that is very handy due to size).
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I need to make a list of what all I have. I have 2 sets that are missing a few by 1/16ths. plus a few random 32nd or 64th I do have. Was hoping to have it all at once instead of trying to piece together with good used.
 
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This came in. It's a jig to set on your morse taper tailstock/headstock/toolpost and clamp round stuff to center drill (though I suppose you could turn round stock if clamped on lathe spindle). The hardened centering bushings were packed in a bag w/the tool so I had several nicks on the soft taper....No big deal IMO since it's mostly used for static fixing....I think vendor has other tapers. Attaching video on how to modify for larger stock:

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HUSKY (US New Britain made) 12-pc 1/2" dr SAE socket set
CS-43 (KIlness patent) ratchet and some sockets.
confirmed with seller these are all US made.
I own one of these these ratchets - nice unit. I'm tempted to buy this myself but I need another 1/2" drive set like a hole in the head.
$20.00 + $12.25 shipping OBO
 

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Same set except it's got the EZ Red name, it's metric and $79.99. I bought them from Amazon 6.5 years ago for $47 in used-like new/mint condition. I think the K-force seller's shipping price is fair, for me it's $16.34.

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