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Eastwood CONTOUR SCT or HF Surface Conditioning sanding drum sources ?

californiamilleghia

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Hi , I was thinking of getting this tool , probably the Eastwood model because it has 3 year warranty .

But the sanding drums are pretty expensive ,

Do HF drums interchange , Amazon also lists some , how do I check if they will fit ?

Or is there another source for the drums ?
Thanks for your advise

 
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Id check some of the reviews and question on the specific ones on Amazon ones you're interested in. I'd guess they're mostly interchangeable. Quite a bit of the Eastwood stuff is offshore anyway. Also check on Amazon for "surface conditioning tool" You can probably get the same thing as the Eastwood for 1/2 or 1/3 of the price. Maybe not with the warranty though.
 

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I bought the Eastwood from their tent at the Iola swap meet a year or maybe two ago. It works ok, but it‘s not the miracle tool I was hoping for. I wish it had some sort of dust collection attachment, as everything in the surrounding area gets covered with a fine rusty film of dust. I used it a little on a basket case 36 Ford five window coupe body I’m picking away at as time permits.

I haven’t studied the HF version, bit a casual look makes me suspect it’s the same tool but in red, and with a few cosmetic differences. I plan to pick up a few coarse HF drums to supplement the Eastwood drums.

I also saw some other no name copies on Amazon. If I was buying now, I think I would go with the cheapest one I could find. Warranties on these inexpensive tools are not important to me. If it doesn’t last a couple of years, why would I want another one?
 
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have the HF version can attest to its mess making capability.......

seemed to make quick work on large sections that are smooth, but it struggled on contours in my limited experience with it.
 

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The HF drums fit the Eastwood. I don't know why they couldn't make this tool with some sort of dust collection but they don't and yes it works great but best to use it outside. The coarse Scochbrite discs are the best for removing paint.
 
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Guy over on Welding Web (Kevin Morin) modified his Eastwood conditioner to include dust collection.
 

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Great tool! Picked it up when HF had it for $119! This includes 3 Sanding drums too.
The stripping drum is the most expensive at around $30 for the cheaper ones NOT from HF.
I picked up a second stripping drum as they are now all over EBay and Amazon so no shortage of suppliers.
I went with an after market sanding drum as it was slightly larger in diameter but still fit the machine. So more material and hopefully will make the sanding drum last a bit longer.

Yes all the sanding drums that I have come across all fit these machines. Still looking to see if any brand has a different mounting system.

One BIG advantage that Eastwood has at least for now is they make spacers so you can run narrow 1" or 2" wide sanding drums. That is my one complaint about the wide 4" sanding drums. They are great but as posted above getting in the corners and tight spots just won't happen. Note these spacers and narrow wheels do fit the HF machine.

Hoping Harbor Freight starts carrying the spacers and narrow sanding drums in the future too!
Sanding drums still too expensive but again I think this will be a very popular tool and prices should come down.
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have the HF version can attest to its mess making capability.......

seemed to make quick work on large sections that are smooth, but it struggled on contours in my limited experience with it.

I tend to use a combination of the purple stripping discs on an angle grinder (~$4-5CAD each) and some smaller roloc type ones (~$1.5CAD each)on a pistol grip die grinder to get into smaller areas. And a 13" air belt sander for the really tight spots.

I can see where the drum type would be useful on a trunk lid or hood, something big and flat. If it's got an outside radius, the contact patch is going to be limited and no better than the grinder wheel. Anything concave and it's going to struggle and you're only going to be able to use the outside edges of the drum.

The drums seems to be ~$30ea minimum.
 

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The dust collection adapter shown above is obvious. Why Eastwood or HF hasn't offered it surprises me. You can bet if FESTOOL made these it would have it. I'm not a fan of FESTOOL but when it comes to dust collection they got that down pat.
 
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californiamilleghia

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Thanks for your replies ,
I can see 3D printing the spacer pieces , and maybe the dust extractor ,

Many of the Amazon / Ebay machines are just a 4 inch cheap grinder with the sanding drum set-up added to the spindle ,
The Eastwood / HF ones are more centered and probably easier to control .
 

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watching this thread as i want to buy one of these machines to quickly and easily restore the inside of a 1968 AMC trunk. Curious to see some shots of the 2 and 3in drums you are referring to with the spacers. Lot of little grooves to get inside of in this truck maybe the Eastwood version is worth the extra dollars. Thx
 
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The most standard size by far for the drums for this type of machine are about 4”x4” with a 19mm( 3/4”) keyed arbor.
There are other sizes that were used by some manufacturers though.

As far as the tools being “modified angle grinders”, they’re not.
The speed of an angle grinder is too high.
These machines usually run at about the speed of a mid rpm polisher, and some manufacturers like Fein, basically made adapter accessories that could be mounted on their polishers gor using the drums.

I’m not sure who invented this type of machine, which is usually referred to as a burnisher, but one of the older models sold in the USA, maybe two decades or more ago, was made by Flex Tools of Germany, and was specifically made as a burnishing machine, although with the layout of a polisher used on its side with a drum mounted.
The Flex was available in two versions, one of which had a cast aluminum guard covering the wheel, with a handle mounted to the wheel guard, and a built in dust collection port.
These machines were originally not cheap.
The Flex machine had a street price around $800.
Later, Metabo started selling a similar burnisher that was slightly more affordable at $600+-.
The wheels have always cost a fortune.
The Metabo wheels used to be the cheaper option.
The Eastwood and Harbor Freight burnishers do appear to have a mire ergonomic layout than the older burnisher design.
 

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Their original purpose was to put a directional (brushed) finish on stainless steel. With the addition of the Scotchbrite wheel it was determined that they could quickly remove five layers of paint.
 

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Their original purpose was to put a directional (brushed) finish on stainless steel. With the addition of the Scotchbrite wheel it was determined that they could quickly remove five layers of paint.
You can actually use the tool to completely resurface metal, from black, fire scaled steel, to a matte finish, to a completely polished finish.

Corse and fine wire wheels are available,
As are abrasive containing nylon bristly brushes,
Then sandpaper/fleece combo wheels, in different grits,
then fleece wheels in different grits,
Then fabric and felt wheels that can be used with polishing compounds.
Buying all the wheels to go from coarse to polished can easily cost more than the high end $800 burnisher models though.
 

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Doing a search here and looking around at posts and threads I came up with this old thread.

Anything new on these? What I learned here so far is that the kit for an angle grinder is not good as the AG turns way too fast.

Wanting to buy one right away so any suggestions are welcome. There is one on the Jungle for 69.00 and the reviews are not awful. I won't link it as I'm not sure what the policy is here. You know the one if it's 69.00.

TIA.
 

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I was looking at the HF tool today when I was at the store and it seemed very heavy, is the Eastwood tool just as heavy? Also I would like to create uniform pattern on mild steel body panels, what wheel would you recommend. (Similar to the finish on stainless steel as mentioned above)
 

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Guy over on Welding Web (Kevin Morin) modified his Eastwood conditioner to include dust collection.
He from Maine? My memere was a Morin.
 

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Nice to see the prices of the drums seem to have come down since this thread was started.

Guys were quoting $30 but a quick looks shows they’re largely in the $11 to 2 for $24 range on Amazon.
 

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I usually use my HF one for metal related projects, but it also did an excellent job of removing many layers of old paint off cmu block without damaging the block. I went through quite a few wheels doing it $$$, but it was a situation where I couldn’t use stripper and a power washer like I had been doing on the rest of the project, so it worked well for that specific situation
 

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Nice to see the prices of the drums seem to have come down since this thread was started.

Guys were quoting $30 but a quick looks shows they’re largely in the $11 to 2 for $24 range on Amazon.
Before the Asian made surfacers were available, the drums used to cost $60-$200 each from the European manufacturers.
 
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