bluedog225
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I’m sure I’m doing it wrong. I got this cord used and it just fell off the roll. What’s the secret?
I’m sure I’m doing it wrong. I got this cord used and it just fell off the roll. What’s the secret?

I tried that once and got all tripped up around the 50' markI cut them into 16” sections that store nicely in a drawer.
I coil them; plug the two ends together; and use these clips. I've never had any negative experiences doing this. There are several places and methods/hooks in my shop to hang them.I do a forearm wrap, then cuff 'em with one of these. Hardest part about storing them is to get the two ends of the cord plugged together after I've refilled it and before all the angry pixies leak out. Also gets tiresome having to check level on them all (I do it once a month or so) so they're ready to use.
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I actually coil them a little different than the picture and not sure if its how you described or not. I actually always coil starting with both ends in hand, so effectively it winds up being half the cord coiled but doubled up. I don't have any problem with wires kinking and when I use the cord I always uncoil the full length. Just rolled a 50' up about 5 min ago.This is the best way. I am a mountain and ice climber (though not so active at it anymore). A "mountaineers' coil" as sketched above is an excellent way to coil a cord (or rope) without kinking. It is very easy to do and fast once you get the pattern down.
But cgrutt left off a very important "step 0" before making the coil. You must first "stack" the cord. You do this as follows. You first grab one end of the cord. Work out all kinks. Then starting from one end with the end outside (or in your hand) *stack* the unkinked cord till you reach the other end. Then with both ends in your hand stack again till you reach the midpoint. Then make the Mountaineer's coil. I am sure you can find rock climbing tutorial videos of this online or look at books on mountaineering and rock climbing (Freedom of the Hills is excellent). It is exactly the same procedure for electrical cords as with ropes. It is critically important to start out with an unkinked cord and cords kink easier than rope. If you do and keep doing this every time, the cord will remain kink free. Also, if correctly worked and stacked you will find it gets less kinked with each successive use as you get it properly worked.
NEVER EVER NEVER roll a cord winding loops from elbow to hand. When you do this, it put an overall rotation each turn and generates kinks that have to be worked out.
Rock climbers and mountaineers are often super good at this procedure since it can be life and death on a multi-pitch route to avoid rope snarls. Kinks can also catch on features generating all sorts of problems. Climbing partners will also murder anyone who *$%# -up the rope, so it gets very ingrained.
Also, I strongly recommend avoiding plastic sheath wire. It kinks too easily. Rubber sheaths are much better. Also, working in low temps can exacerbate kink problems. Below freezing can be nightmarish and it can be better to take the cord inside and let it warm up first.
Be kind to your cords and your cords will be kind to youMaybe your life does not depend on it in DIY and even job site applications with cords as it does for mountain climbers. But the methods I found really help. I gather some contractors are very phobic about cord handling also since poor techniques can create problems and inefficiencies on jobs.

It looks like the standard way: to double up from the midpoint and coil starting from the midpoint in double. Getting to the midpoint without kinking is the "stacking" is what I described to add to your diagram. Maybe I did not describe it so well. But it is easier to watch (videos) of the full procedure and study drawing sequences (like in the book "Freedom of the Hills") than to read the procedure written out. Stacking is important to avoid kinks and I suspect that is what you are doing when you get ready to coil.I actually coil them a little different than the picture and not sure if its how you described or not. I actually always coil starting with both ends in hand, so effectively it winds up being half the cord coiled but doubled up. I don't have any problem with wires kinking and when I use the cord I always uncoil the full length. Just rolled a 50' up about 5 min ago.
Here are four that I keep in back of my truck. 2 25s a 50 and 100...
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