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Hmm. Hope you don't end up regretting those timber stairs. After finding them very noisy in our last house we deliberately carpeted the stairs when we built our current place, despite there being timber floors at both the top and bottom of them, and they are way quieter.
@Geoff289, good point.

I think with just the two of us and being a no shoes household it should be fine, excluding that my ankle which "cracks" early in the morning will probably make an increased noise contribution during the morning descent :ROFLMAO:
 

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Hmm. Hope you don't end up regretting those timber stairs. After finding them very noisy in our last house we deliberately carpeted the stairs when we built our current place, despite there being timber floors at both the top and bottom of them, and they are way quieter.
Geoff, that is an extremely good point but I think , for me , I would put up with the noise as: well , what's not to love about timber ?
Oh yeh , termites. (But that's only cos they love timber too !!)
 

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@Geoff289, good point.

I think with just the two of us and being a no shoes household it should be fine, excluding that my ankle which "cracks" early in the morning will probably make an increased noise contribution during the morning descent :ROFLMAO:
.... and here's you also claiming "cracking" noises are the effect of the sun on the shed...hmmm...
Question: were you walking around when the sun came out from behind the clouds ??
I rest my case. :)
 
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Just an ankle 🤔 some days I can get both ankles, both shins and both knees all clicking and not just in the morning 😅
@littlebean, so long as those joints stop cracking or settle down once lubricated!

I've never had any chronic pain or problems with my ankle, that's just what it does in the morning. It annoys the hell out of my wife.
 
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Geoff, that is an extremely good point but I think , for me , I would put up with the noise as: well , what's not to love about timber ?
Oh yeh , termites. (But that's only cos they love timber too !!)
@Coolabah we've picked out the reclaimed Blackbutt boards and a 5 m plus piece of handrail with a really chunky cross-section from Kennedy's Timbers. It will look pretty good me thinks :cool:

So far, no sign of termites. Ants yes, spiders yes, snakes yes, bandicoots yes, hares yes and would you believe what I found sitting in the middle of the driveway near the garage on a scorching hot day in January...

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Like WTH! I had my grey tinted safety glasses on and thought it was a stone. I stopped and was wondering how did that stone get in the middle of the driveway. When I picked it up it was already curled up and I thought this little guy was cooked but after a few seconds in some water it moved.

I then found another one a few days later, again on the driveway. They would have been about 70 m+ from water. Eventually, I found the nest at the very base of a section of retaining wall at the garage. Both were released into the dam.
 
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.... and here's you also claiming "cracking" noises are the effect of the sun on the shed...hmmm...
Question: were you walking around when the sun came out from behind the clouds ??
I rest my case. :)
@Coolabah, okay challenge now accepted to get a recording. I only wish I could capture one of the big clangs that the steel members make. These just occur randomly. I think it's the silver foil insulation that makes far more noise and that's easy to observe.
 
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Post #0065a – Driveway repairs - Part LX

This update post is mostly a before and after comparison of the areas along the driveway we repaired. Riveting content? Well of course not but it’s all part of the journey, as we keep on top of all aspects of this project.

Way, way back in update post #0036 I showed some of the impacts of Tropical Cyclone Alfred which occurred in March 2025 (see page 5, GJ posts ID #172 and ID #175). Here’s a couple of photos showing some of the erosion damage to the driveway.

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In the months that followed, the regular rainfall kept the shoulders either side of the driveway very soft. This was a trap for the careless, distracted, overconfident, incompetent, inexperienced, inconsiderate, oblivious etc. drivers of which there seemed to be quite a few!

So many went astray, that their handy work was featured in update posts #0051a and #0051b (see page 9, GJ posts ID #329 and ID #330). Here’s a couple of photos to remind us of their misadventures.

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I eventually reached the point where I couldn’t stand the sight of all this mess day after day as we arrived on site. Thinking about this further, you begin to feel a bit deflated thinking you're not in control of simple things on this project. So, with the rainfall tapering off and drier weather ahead expected, it was time to undertake some repairs and regain a sense of control.

This time around, fixing the eroded sections of the driveway didn’t appear to be as large a task as it was when the driveway was damaged way back in December 2024. That damage occurred as a consequence of a neighbour diverting runoff from his property, see update post #0021 (see page 3, GJ post ID #96). On that occasion we spent about AUD3300 carrying out repairs and creating diversion bunds.

Anyway, on this occasion we went to the local landscape supplier, ordered a couple of cubic metres of road base and had them dump it near the three main locations we needed it. We had to be mindful of maintaining clear access which meant we first focused on completing the section leading up to the shed. We then tackled the driveway entrance.

Here’s my wife on shovel duty while I took a photo. By this stage we’d partially filled and compacted the road base in the rut.

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Here’s the end result. Don’t ask me why that road base is so pink!

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Here’s a photo of the bend where the driveway branches in two directions. This is the intersection between Driveway 1 which is the main driveway and Driveway 4. Drivers had consistently been cutting the corner as they headed up towards the smaller garage.

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Here’s the corner after raking over the ruts and redistributing the dirt.

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Not far beyond the corner was this area on Driveway 4.

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Here it is after a tidy up.

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Post #0065b – Driveway repairs continued - Part LX

At the garage there was this mess.

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Here it is repaired but viewed from the opposite direction.

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Approaching the upper house pad site there was damage on the left and right sides of Driveway 2 in three locations.

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Here’s a group of photos of the whole area after being repaired. Of interest is just how much the pasture had dried out by the time we were in winter. There’s almost not a cloud in the sky.

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With all that work done, the good news was that most of the heavy vehicle traffic was now over, except for emptying of skip bins and pumping out the portable toilet.
 

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Post #0065b – Driveway repairs continued - Part LX

At the garage there was this mess.
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With all that work done, the good news was that most of the heavy vehicle traffic was now over, except for emptying of skip bins and pumping out the portable toilet.
I'm not sure from your photos , but did you end up widening the gravel part at the ruts where they went "off road", or fill in the ruts with dirt at that part? I only ask as sometimes the ruts reflect on the road design , as much as careless drivers !!
A different situation for sure - Years ago I made a pretty curving garden path across my (then , not now) pristine lawn. You guessed it , everyone just walked in a straight line from A to B- one step on path , next step on lawn etc so a track was soon worn. I relented and changed my path to a straight line LOL
 

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I have a feeling that you driveway is going to be a thorn in your side as long as you live on this site. :cry: It's a good thing you don't have to deal with ice, snow and deep frost:eek:
I wager the Cane Toads make up for that in spades ! But yes, that's the problem with rural properties in Australia , driveways are usually very long and it is expensive to do much more than graded dirt. Gravel ? Luxury I say, Luxury !! :)
 

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Wow you have had your share of incidents on your build. On my garage build I’ve had issues with both the man door and the over head. Uncompleted work, concrete on metal siding, overhead door& opener installed poorly, eaves troughs uncompleted, landscaping not completed I could go on and on. The garage contractor was to do some of the landscaping, patio stone and a few other things. Said no problem but never completed his tasks. Got tired of it and hired who I needed to get the job done. He came over in early summer making all sorts of promises to get task completed. We had company visiting on the deck so we went for a little walk. Told him he never produced as he said he would and went on for awhile on the uncompleted tasks. Said he would take care of the items, told him not to bother. Mentioned I’d never been lied to by one person in my life and once I hit my stride I have a tendency to follow through. I thought I would see him again with a bill for his costs. Never did see him again. Much later I told the visitor that he intruded on when he showed up what went down. The neighbour said that he would not be around to collect as he was likely embarrassed. Haven’t seen him and doubt I will
 
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Driveway looks much tidier, can imagine that feels good. Though there's some hours in that doing the fill and compacting by hand! Fingers cross it holds up and there's no further damage from trucks.
@hewey, good to hear from you.

Yes, it felt good. Walking past each rut triggered a mental thought, "This (build) is a process, it will come to an end, it will be worth it but FFS hurry up and end ". 😩 So, repairing them was in part a strategy to do away with those thoughts to end the mental torture.

All has worked out well and we haven't had to do any further repairs. I am looking forward to getting asphalt.
 
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1st world problems , lol. Put some solid stuff, not just dirt
@Notgrownup thanks for chiming in. Agree, in the big scheme of things (life) one could have worse problems to deal with.

We are extremely lucky to have the financial capacity and time to do this build.

It's a great rural-urban location, quiet, reasonably private yet still only a few minutes from the town centre, nice neighbours, lots to do, great community etc. etc.

The road base is nominally 4 m (13') wide. It's wider at corners/curves. There's still another 100 mm (4") of road base to be laid, then asphalt (10' wide). The softness of the shoulders (even on public roads) is a problem across the whole region because of the reactive clay and high summer rainfall, so you see plenty of award winning wheel ruts believe me.
 

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I will admit that I was drinking when I posted that. lol. I seem to develop extreme engineering prowess’s when alcohol is involved. Truth is. I struggle with my own dirt here in eastern North Carolina. Damn packed sand wont drain. I’m not worried about it too much.
that clay mud can be messy. Good luck.
 
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I'm not sure from your photos , but did you end up widening the gravel part at the ruts where they went "off road", or fill in the ruts with dirt at that part? I only ask as sometimes the ruts reflect on the road design , as much as careless drivers !!
A different situation for sure - Years ago I made a pretty curving garden path across my (then , not now) pristine lawn. You guessed it , everyone just walked in a straight line from A to B- one step on path , next step on lawn etc so a track was soon worn. I relented and changed my path to a straight line LOL
@Coolabah, that's a very valid point, that the design (alignment) can be a problem.

In fact, it was and when the sub-grade was being prepared the civil contractor noted that visiting vehicles were tending to cut the corner just past the culvert where the ascent to the shed starts and at the intersection where the driveway branches off to the left to head to the garage.

We adjusted the horizontal alignment slightly in both locations to deal with this. They also knocked a hump off the vertical alignment at that intersection that was unnecessary. His thinking was it was so exaggerated, that at night, your car's headlights would be pointing to the sky, then suddenly into the dip after this hump.

I now think, after experiencing all these misadventures, that the horizontal alignment at the intersection could have been adjusted even further but it's done now, so there's no going back.

I'm certainly glad that a proposed retaining wall on the inside curve (at that intersection) was done away with and replaced with a sloped embankment.

 
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That's some gorgeous country right there!
@zanyad here's a more recent photo taken just on twilight.

This is looking to the south toward the dairy farm that adjoins our block.

There are a few large areas of black plastic covering Paspalum spp. that we're solarising but the Kikuyu grass is thickening up nicely with regular mowing.

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shoot, were there any corners they didn't mess up :rolleyes:
@littlebean now that you say that, I think the only area they managed to navigate without mishap was the very soft chicane at the entrance.

This is shown below. This photo is taken quite a while after we'd filled the rut but now heading into summer, so there's a small amount of new erosion from early summer rainfall. This road base doesn't have much binder in it. In hindsight, had I known that at the time it was laid I would have changed the specification for it. It's really suited to having asphalt laid on it straight away, whereas we won't lay the asphalt until most of/all the building and hence heavy vehicle movements are finished.

In this photo, you can also see where the weeds have been sprayed in the gully (on the left-hand-side). The goal here is eliminate the worst of the worst weeds. The non-native grasses will grow back and that's a battle that can't be (??) won but if we can keep on top of the worst weeds it won't be too unsightly.

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@littlebean now that you say that, I think the only area they managed to navigate without mishap was the very soft chicane at the entrance.

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In this photo, you can also see where the weeds have been spray in the gully (on the left-hand-side). The goal here is eliminate the worst of the worst weeds. The non-native grasses will grow back and that's a battle that can't be (??) won but if we can keep on top of the worst weeds it won't be too unsightly.
Yes, what a Beautiful Property ! (Pretty sure Zanyad & I will move into your back paddock the moment you turn your back :) )
I looked after my FIL's 75 acre cattle property in NSW ( the state below QLD for our OS friends) for a number of years when he was no longer able to , and once the cattle were all gone WEEDS were a constant nightmare. Lantana is a word that immediately sends me into night sweats . Blackberry ? Ouch. Fireweed ? Annoying. I spent many, many, man hours when I wasn't slashing the paddocks in a tractor with a large spray pack somewhat permanently strapped across my back .( Glyphosate is used widely in Australia, not sure about our US friends). Weeds are one of those constant annoyances-perseverance is the key !!
 
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I have a feeling that you driveway is going to be a thorn in your side as long as you live on this site. :cry: It's a good thing you don't have to deal with ice, snow and deep frost:eek:
@Mr onetwo, gotta agree with you there in many regards.

The one lane street, the steep, sketchy last of part of the council's street and then our sloping block do combine to complicate access.

Looking to the future, a persistent problem will that visitors and delivery drivers can of course fall fowl of things because they're just not familiar/experienced with steep sloped driveways. Even I have to plan things when I bring home something large in the trailer.

A future house build will also create a high risk of damage...
 
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Just caught up, interesting thread for sure. I enjoy seeing how things are done in different parts of the world. Is there no water, or what is the reason for not drilling a well?

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Post #0066a – Stormwater drainage management - Part LXI

So, they don't use curbs or drainage ditches alongside the driveway (road) to control where the water goes? Won't it just erode out again the next time you get these rains?
@Jagmandave made a very good point about managing the surface water drainage, so I thought I’d do another post explaining how the stormwater is dealt with.

Before I go further, just to reiterate, the driveway hasn’t been finished, there’s still another 100 mm (4”) of road base to go down and then a layer of asphalt. So, the erosion damage has been occurring during a period where it’s most vulnerable. The likely duration it will be like this was expected to be about 18 months, covering the period it takes to complete the build and fit out the shed and garage.

This next photograph, taken from the south end of the block, shows the slope from west (left) to east (right) and how the block to the north (top) slopes toward the gully that traverses the block through the north-east corner. The entrance off the street is at the north end, right behind that tree in the middle of the photo, on the very right-hand-side. Where I’m standing, the slope falls toward the site of a future house.

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The key strategy to protect the buildings is to divert surface water runoff around them, then under the driveway to discharge downslope. This approach also reduces the amount of surface water runoff that would otherwise have to flow over the driveway.

At the south end of the garage a swale drain runs part way along the driveway and captures surface water runoff from the west.

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This drain then intersects with the swale drain that is behind and above the retaining wall at the garage. After combining, the drain then drops into a pit. A pipe exits the pit and passes under the driveway to discharge downslope.

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At the north end of the garage the drain intersects the swale drain that is behind and above the retaining wall at the shed. After combining, it passes under the walkway between the garage and shed through a corrugated pipe.

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After the corrugated pipe, another swale drain runs down to a pit on the edge of the driveway. This pit also captures the runoff from the surrounding area. A pipe exits the pit and passes under the driveway.

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At the north end of the shed, the swale drain that is behind the shed continues and captures the upslope area in the north-west corner of the block. The drain is directed toward the gully.

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Returning to the front of the shed, a swale drain directs the discharge from the shed’s perimeter drainage system and any roof water that isn’t captured in the storage tanks to the gully. This drain also blocks surface water from heading toward the section of driveway that heads up to the shed.

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Post #0066b – Stormwater drainage management continued - Part LXI

At the entrance, a berm blocks the runoff from the property to the north. It’s quite high and its sides are steep. It can’t be mowed with a ride-on-mower, so I think we’ll have to landscape it in some way. It wasn’t part of the original design but was completed in response to the neighbour diverting the direction of runoff that normally crossed their block (and went into the gully) down the street.

Perhaps the additional item that could have been included at the entrance, is a concrete spoon drain across the driveway. This would help dealing with runoff that comes directly down the street. It can always be done as an improvement, after the asphalt is laid.

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At the upper house site, a swale drain above and behind the retaining wall captures the runoff from the bank above it. It discharges to ground at the south end. At its northern end, it discharges into a pit. A pipe exits the pit, passes under the retaining wall, picks up the discharge from another pit and then continues under the driveway.

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After crossing the driveway, it passes through another (not shown) pit and connects to the pit shown in the next photo. The pit also picks up the runoff from the surrounding area. The pipe exits the pit, crosses the next driveway and discharges at a headwall.

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There are a couple of sections of driveway, where it’s essentially perpendicular to the contours, so the surface runoff flows directly down those sections. Without asphalt, they’re particularly vulnerable, as the previous posts have shown.

With asphalt they’ll be less vulnerable, however, the amount of water captured directly on the asphalt will increase as it’s less pervious. The speed of flow will also increase.

Here’s one section of the driveway leading to the shed where that’s the case. The grade is 20% and it’s a bit like the downhill section of a roller coaster. Once the asphalt is laid, turf will be laid either side of the asphalt, in the high-risk areas as shown, to stabilise the shoulders.

No drains will be formed on the shoulder, so the turf will simply be laid flat. Where no turf is laid, the grass will be allowed to grow to the edge of the asphalt. The problem with open drains is that as they extend further, they must naturally become deeper. This results in portions of them becoming unable to be mowed with a ride-on-mower and difficult to traverse.

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Back at the upper house site, one last item will be constructed to capture runoff from the upslope area alongside the very last part of the driveway. A concrete spoon drain will be laid across the driveway which will discharge to a pit at its end (see below).

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Next up, my wife and I tackle a project together.
 
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Just caught up, interesting thread for sure. I enjoy seeing how things are done in different parts of the world. Is there no water, or what is the reason for not drilling a well?
@82355 the site is just beyond the council's reticulated supply.

So, we've simply installed water storage tanks and will collect the roof water runoff. The average annual rainfall is about 2700 mm (9').

There's 75 kL (19,800 US gallons) of storage at the shed, 5 kL (1320 US gallons) of storage at the garage and 45 kL (11,900 US gallons) of storage at the site of a future house.
 
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Wow you have had your share of incidents on your build. On my garage build I’ve had issues with both the man door and the over head. Uncompleted work, concrete on metal siding, overhead door& opener installed poorly, eaves troughs uncompleted, landscaping not completed I could go on and on. The garage contractor was to do some of the landscaping, patio stone and a few other things. Said no problem but never completed his tasks. Got tired of it and hired who I needed to get the job done. He came over in early summer making all sorts of promises to get task completed. We had company visiting on the deck so we went for a little walk. Told him he never produced as he said he would and went on for awhile on the uncompleted tasks. Said he would take care of the items, told him not to bother. Mentioned I’d never been lied to by one person in my life and once I hit my stride I have a tendency to follow through. I thought I would see him again with a bill for his costs. Never did see him again. Much later I told the visitor that he intruded on when he showed up what went down. The neighbour said that he would not be around to collect as he was likely embarrassed. Haven’t seen him and doubt I will
@Miss the Pontiacs it does seem like that, but considering the scope of works and all the contractors, sub-contractors and sub-subcontractors involved it's really been fairly reasonable.

In a typical house build, the client wouldn't be involved as much and wouldn't be dealing with the stuff I've posted here. I'm doing this as an owner builder, so I'm responsible for so much more. I'm essentially the head contractor/builder.
 

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@82355 the site is just beyond the council's reticulated supply.

So, we've simply installed water storage tanks and will collect the roof water runoff. The average annual rainfall is about 2700 mm (9').

There's 75 kL (19,800 US gallons) of storage at the shed, 5 kL (1320 US gallons) of storage at the garage and 45 kL (11,900 US gallons) of storage at the site of a future house.

Yeah, I understood that. Is it uncommon to just drill your own well there was more of my curiosity. Where I am, there are no rocks, and rural houses are all on their own well.

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Yeah, I understood that. Is it uncommon to just drill your own well there was more of my curiosity. Where I am, there are no rocks, and rural houses are all on their own well.
@82355, I'll say yes, it's uncommon. It would be more common in drier areas of the country with low rainfall, where there were deep groundwater aquifers.

Whilst we've been building we were doing house sits, many of which were semi-rural with no municipal water supply. I think we did about 25 and only one had what we call a bore that extracted groundwater. It was an older place and I thought it was odd it had a bore, as you just don't see them. It wasn't like the block was huge and had a lot of irrigation usage to warrant it. That place also collected the roof water.

Most places that aren't on a municipal supply simply collect the rain water from the roofed buildings.

A bore would come at a cost and then there's the ongoing electricity usage, unless you could go solar. Plus, it adds more mechanical/electrical equipment into the mix.
 
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OK, that looks like a well thought out plan for the water runoff, I had no idea it was that rainy in your part of the world - 9' is a LOT of rainwater to deal with!
@Jagmandave and that's the long term average.

In 2022 we had 3700 mm or about 12'. In 2024, the first year of our build we had 3400 mm or 11' 🦆. In 2025, we had a tropical cyclone (hurricane). I must go and check what the annual rainfall was for 2025.
 
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I wager the Cane Toads make up for that in spades !
@Coolabah, I went out last night to find one on the driveway and take a photograph. ****** me there were none that I could find. I decided that it was not a good idea to wander off onto the grass.

We do have them, terrible things. Very occasionally in summer, I've spotted a couple in the day time. One was in the rip rap at a headwall and one was in some grass I was just about to mow over. If it's wet and we come home when it's dark, you'll definitely find see them on the driveway.
 
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I've always wanted a 1992-97 OBS Power Stroke F-250 or F-350, as they're the last of the simple full size US Ford pickups.

The Australian government banned the importation of them around 2021 (?), no doubt under the pressure of Ford, Holden (Chevrolet) etc. who were already importing or getting ready to import (e.g. F-150) new pickups. The government did this by setting a threshold for the maximum GVM (gross vehicle mass) of 3500 kg (7900 lb) for older light commercial vehicles that can be imported.

This is my dream truck. Currently bid to USD65000 which is amazing considering what this would have cost new. It's quite a rare Centurion conversion with rear single drive wheels, as most were dualies. Know doubt our American friends know more. BaT link 35k mile '96 F-350 XLT Crew Cab Centurion Power Stroke 4 x 4.

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