Help me spend money - DWE7491RS vs. GTS15-10

[DGersic]

I want (need?) a new table saw to replace my ancient Craftsman. Looking at the DeWalt DWE7491RS or the Bosch GTS15-10.




Both seem to be good saws. Both are better than what I have now. Both get good reviews. Bosch is $100 more, but with Menards 11% rebate, it’s really only about $25.

The Bosch has soft start, DeWalt doesn’t, but I don’t know if that actually matters.

 

[kingcobb]

I am curious about this as I am a actually in the exact same situation.

 

[MichaelP]

They say Bosch also has a brake and dialable fence adjustment. I have no experience with this saw though.

To me, the most important thing is a good square fence that stays square and solid after I move and retighten it. I have a bit older model of Dewalt, and the fence there is very good.

Obviously, either of them will make you forget your Craftsman pretty quickly.

 

[mike93lx]

I have owned that dewalt for a while, probably almost 10 years, and I'm very happy with it.

The fence's capacity was a big part of what pushed me to it (32", or so).

I added an outfeed table which has been a massive help https://www.instructables.com/Outfeed-Table-for-Dewalt-Table-Saw-for-10-includes/

If it died, i' d seriously consider going for the sawstop portable, but I'd have no problem grabbing another 7491

 

[NUTTSGT]

Are you wanting something small and portable ?

I'm more of a yellow power tool guy and would be perusing HD website for the deals on yellow.

If you don't care about portability I would be looking for an older used Craftsman table saw or something similar. You can find them on CL, FBMP or auction sites like Govdeals or Hibid.

 

[DGersic]

They say Bosch also has a brake and dialable fence adjustment. I have no experience with this saw though.

I read somewhere, probably the Bosch web site, that it has a brake. It’s not a Sawstop type finger saver. It says that it stops the blade in about three seconds. This is supposed to be safer, ok, I guess. A stopped blade is basically safer than a moving one (though my one and only table saw injury was with a stopped blade).

It’s also supposed to allow you to work faster, I guess by being able to stop the blade sooner and start setting up the next cut. I can’t really see much advantage there, as I tend to set up something I need repeated cuts, and make a bunch of them before needing to set up the next one.

 

[DGersic]

Are you wanting something small and portable ?

I'm more of a yellow power tool guy and would be perusing HD website for the deals on yellow.

Whatever I get must be portable. I have no dedicated space for anything, so it comes out, gets set up and used, and gets put away at the end of the day. My old Craftsman is small enough to be carried out of the shed, where it lives. That’s really its only good point.

I have a lot of DeWalt tools and am generally happy with the brand. The DeWalt saw gets great reviews. I’m sure I’d be happy with the table saw, and I’m willing to undertake the needed storage shed rearranging / Tetris game to make it fit.

My only experience with Bosch power tools is an inherited belt sander. It’s hard to be impressed by a belt sander, but this thing amazed me when I first used it. The Bosch table saw, if made to the same standards, is likely to amaze me as well.

I can pick up either one today. Lowes has the DeWalt in stock. Menards has the Bosch. HD isn’t really an option, the closest one is an hour away. Pricing seems pretty consistent, no current special deals available, and saving or spending an extra $50 isn’t a deal breaker.

 

[MichaelP]

I agree, neither soft start nor brake are must have (vs. good fence, for example). But they're nice features.

I'd go with with extra $100 for them, but I'm not sure how good Bosch fence is. Based on AI analysis of Amazon feedbacks, there is no mutual agreement of this among users. So this alone would make me uncomfortable. But if the saw is in stock of a local store, you can easily check it in person.

 

[DGersic]

I added an outfeed table which has been a massive help

That looks like a nice upgrade, and a good starter project for getting used to a new saw.

I’ll also have to build a new crosscut sled.

 

[RTM]

A friend had a portable DeWalt with a supposedly great fence. I was underwhelmed compared to the fence on an older Craftsman contractor saw I own.

I would like hard at the Bosch, hear good things.

I've not laid a hand on either of them

 

[mike93lx]

A friend had a portable DeWalt with a supposedly great fence. I was underwhelmed compared to the fence on an older Craftsman contractor saw I own.

I would like hard at the Bosch, hear good things.

I've not laid a hand on either of them

The fences on these jobaite saws are nowhere near as good as even a moderately good contractor or cabinet saw.

But they work fine for the kind of work the saws are meant for

 

[JohnX14]

What are you looking to do with these saws? I have an older (15 years or so) Bosch electric table saw similar to the one in op pic. I also have both a MW and DW battery table saw. Which both do about as well as the Bosh plug-in. (not quite, but close) If you need a cabinet saw, that's a different story. But between these battery saws and my battery dewalt track saw, I can do a lot of nice woodworking projects. I'd think about the battery options...I pretty much don't even break out the electric table saw.

I also have access to a complete cabinet shop owned by a friend, but haven't had a need arise yet

 

[DGersic]

What are you looking to do with these saws?

Turn big pieces of wood in to smaller pieces of wood, and sawdust. With a reasonable degree of repeatability. I don’t care as much about the ease of setting up a cut as I do being able to make that cut happen, possibly more than once. Mostly rips, I use a mitre saw for crosscuts. I have, and occasionally use, a dado stack.

In the recent past, I’ve used my table saw to make a 24’ rip cut in a piece of Azek siding, required a lot of bodged together infeed and outfeed tables, five gallon buckets of sand to stabilize the saw, and fingerboards to control the piece as it went through the blade.

I turned 3/4” plywood in to new cabinet doors for my foyer. I also built drawers. Both required additional work with routers, but the basic pieces were table sawn.

I built a set of Adirondack chairs, table, and footrest.

I've built cabinets for my garage, with panel doors. I want to build some similar cabinets for my basement.

I built a mission style foot stool.

I’m currently contemplating a mission style floor lamp.

Because I’m used to working with a small saw, small table, I’m used to finding ways to accommodate the saw, and work around its limitations. It has a crappy fence, but it can be locked and will make repeated cuts ok, just run some scraps through first to make sure you’re going to get what you wanted. It has a laughably bad mitre gauge, so I built a crosscut sled for cuts where the mitre saw won’t work. I built a taper cutting jig to make the Adirondack chairs. It has no dust collection, so I mostly work outside. It’s light enough to carry, which makes it unstable in use, gotta weight it down or work carefully to avoid it tipping over.

MW and DW battery table saw. Which both do about as well as the Bosh plug-in. (not quite, but close)

The existence of battery powered table saws boggles my mind.

I’ve seen the M18 saw. I don’t think I want the M18 saw.

If you need a cabinet saw, that's a different story.

I would love to have a cabinet saw. I don’t have the space for a cabinet saw.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Whatever I get must be portable. I have no dedicated space for anything, so it comes out, gets set up and used, and gets put away at the end of the day. My old Craftsman is small enough to be carried out of the shed, where it lives. That’s really its only good point.

I have a lot of DeWalt tools and am generally happy with the brand. The DeWalt saw gets great reviews. I’m sure I’d be happy with the table saw, and I’m willing to undertake the needed storage shed rearranging / Tetris game to make it fit.

My only experience with Bosch power tools is an inherited belt sander. It’s hard to be impressed by a belt sander, but this thing amazed me when I first used it. The Bosch table saw, if made to the same standards, is likely to amaze me as well.

I can pick up either one today. Lowes has the DeWalt in stock. Menards has the Bosch. HD isn’t really an option, the closest one is an hour away. Pricing seems pretty consistent, no current special deals available, and saving or spending an extra $50 isn’t a deal breaker.

I fully understand your situation and how it dictates the saw. Like I said, I have yellow power tools, at least portable stuff. The DeWalt is probably the one I would be throwing cash at.

 

[strutaeng]

I've got the previous generation of the Bosch and can't recommend it.

The arbor wobbles some on mine (initially thought it was the blade, so I replaced it.) Can't really do cuts with much accuracy due to that.

The fence doesn't slide smoothly across. I always have to tap it forcefully.

Not very smooth but that's maybe typical of these lightweight saws?

I do like the stand, that's a good design.

I generally like Bosch tools but on this purchase, I really wish I'd bought the Dewalt. I hope to replace it one day and that's what I would replace it with.

 

[sk farmer]

i have the older discontinued dewalt portable table saw, 744x. the stand is just a basic folding stand with the ability to bolt it to the saw. it has a slightly larger table which i think is nicer and the rack and pinion fence adjustment. it is not as portable and easy to set up as this model is but once it is, it is a great saw and all who have used it don't complain. it is one of those purchase i would not hesitate to make again.

 

[BTL-A4]

I have the DW745 from 2018 that I bought used in FBMP. I wanted one with a 10" blade so I could use the same blades as my cabinet saw. The DW is very loud and throws sawdust everywhere. I need to use a dust collector to mitigate that. I made a sled for mine, and use that for most cuts. I have used the fence a few times and find it works fine. I did have to fine-tune the saw when I got it to make sure it cut straight, but I would expect that with any saw.

I think these saws use 8" blades now, not sure if that is something you care about.

Can you go play with each one at the store and see which one suits you?

 

[DGersic]

I have the DW745 from 2018 that I bought used in FBMP. I wanted one with a 10" blade so I could use the same blades as my cabinet saw. The DW is very loud and throws sawdust everywhere. I need to use a dust collector to mitigate that. I made a sled for mine, and use that for most cuts. I have used the fence a few times and find it works fine. I did have to fine-tune the saw when I got it to make sure it cut straight, but I would expect that with any saw.

I think these saws use 8" blades now, not sure if that is something you care about.

Can you go play with each one at the store and see which one suits you?

I mostly work outside, so dust isn’t a big deal. The DeWalt has a dust collection port (plus), but I don’t know how well it actually collects. For pretty much all of my power tools, I assume that a mask, ear plugs, and eye protection are a good idea, even working outside.

Both the DWE7491RS and GTS15-10 are 10” saws. I wouldn’t go down to an 8” for a table saw without there being some other major advantage to the smaller blade.

i can look at the stores, yes, but they won’t let me make cuts there.

 

[DGersic]

The arbor wobbles some on mine (initially thought it was the blade, so I replaced it.) Can't really do cuts with much accuracy due to that.

That would be an absolute deal killer.

 

[MichaelP]

Dust collection works very decently on my DW.

 

[mike93lx]

I mostly work outside, so dust isn’t a big deal. The DeWalt has a dust collection port (plus), but I don’t know how well it actually collects. For pretty much all of my power tools, I assume that a mask, ear plugs, and eye protection are a good idea, even working outside.

Both the DWE7491RS and GTS15-10 are 10” saws. I wouldn’t go down to an 8” for a table saw without there being some other major advantage to the smaller blade.

i can look at the stores, yes, but they won’t let me make cuts there.

With a shop vac on the dust port, it does quite well. Even just putting a hose on it without a vac will help reduce airborne dust a bunch

 

[AEAdam]

The stand on the Bosch looks like the one on my Bosch slider. I love that stand and might choose Bosch for the stand alone.

In general, I like Bosch and don't find a lot of love for the brand on GJ. I have a lot of Bosch tools and find them to be good quality.

 

[mike93lx]

The stand on the Bosch looks like the one on my Bosch slider. I love that stand and might choose Bosch for the stand alone.

In general, I like Bosch and don't find a lot of love for the brand on GJ. I have a lot of Bosch tools and find them to be good quality.

The stand on the dewalt is stable, but it requires lifting one end of the saw to deploy the legs. It's not very heavy but I could see that being a challenge for some

My ridgid miter saw stand deploys like the Bosch and it's more convenient, but not as stable.

 

[jar944]

Turn big pieces of wood in to smaller pieces of wood, and sawdust. With a reasonable degree of repeatability. I don’t care as much about the ease of setting up a cut as I do being able to make that cut happen, possibly more than once. Mostly rips, I use a mitre saw for crosscuts. I have, and occasionally use, a dado stack.

In the recent past, I’ve used my table saw to make a 24’ rip cut in a piece of Azek siding, required a lot of bodged together infeed and outfeed tables, five gallon buckets of sand to stabilize the saw, and fingerboards to control the piece as it went through the blade.

I turned 3/4” plywood in to new cabinet doors for my foyer. I also built drawers. Both required additional work with routers, but the basic pieces were table sawn.

I built a set of Adirondack chairs, table, and footrest.

I've built cabinets for my garage, with panel doors. I want to build some similar cabinets for my basement.

I built a mission style foot stool.

I’m currently contemplating a mission style floor lamp.

Because I’m used to working with a small saw, small table, I’m used to finding ways to accommodate the saw, and work around its limitations. It has a crappy fence, but it can be locked and will make repeated cuts ok, just run some scraps through first to make sure you’re going to get what you wanted. It has a laughably bad mitre gauge, so I built a crosscut sled for cuts where the mitre saw won’t work. I built a taper cutting jig to make the Adirondack chairs. It has no dust collection, so I mostly work outside. It’s light enough to carry, which makes it unstable in use, gotta weight it down or work carefully to avoid it tipping over.

I'd buy the cheaper one and get a track saw.

Actually I'd buy a track saw first, then replace the TS later if cost was a consideration.

 

[DGersic]

I'd buy the cheaper one and get a track saw.

Actually I'd buy a track saw first, then replace the TS later if cost was a consideration.

Why?

Not that a track saw wouldn’t be nice. But it seems more single purpose than a table saw. For long sheet board cuts, I use a circular saw and a piece of angle iron (bed frame) with a couple of clamps to hold it. Some careful setup gets me a reasonably straight cut.

 

[dnschmidt]

For panels you can't beat a track saw, and Milwaukee seems to have nailed it with their version. Between these two tablesaws it's six of one half a dozen with the other. I see no clear favorite but it's hard to argue that the DeWalt hasn't been tried and true.

 

[jar944]

Why?

Not that a track saw wouldn’t be nice. But it seems more single purpose than a table saw. For long sheet board cuts, I use a circular saw and a piece of angle iron (bed frame) with a couple of clamps to hold it. Some careful setup gets me a reasonably straight cut.

A Tabke saw is better for repetitive cuts and ripping of anything under a few inches. The tracksaw shines everywhere you don't have a straight edge to refrence for the cut. Large crosscuts are a pain on a small TS, and simple with a Tracksaw

My tracksaw left better cut edges than my pm66

 

[mike93lx]

Why?

Not that a track saw wouldn’t be nice. But it seems more single purpose than a table saw. For long sheet board cuts, I use a circular saw and a piece of angle iron (bed frame) with a couple of clamps to hold it. Some careful setup gets me a reasonably straight cut.

It's hard to appreciate the benefits of a track saw over using a guide until you have one.

Track saws are incredibly useful and easy to use

 

[DGersic]

It's hard to appreciate the benefits of a track saw over using a guide until you have one.

Track saws are incredibly useful and easy to use

I don’t doubt the usefulness or desirability. A track saw is great at ripping sheet goods to smaller sizes. A small table saw isn’t. But likewise a track saw won‘t rip a 2x3 to a 1” x 1” actual size or cut a bunch of little posts for a mission style footrest.

 

[mike93lx]

I don’t doubt the usefulness or desirability. A track saw is great at ripping sheet goods to smaller sizes. A small table saw isn’t. But likewise a track saw won‘t rip a 2x3 to a 1” x 1” actual size or cut a bunch of little posts for a mission style footrest.

Track saws do much more than just sheet goods, but that's an area they absolutely shine with.

 

[SteelWodie]

I want (need?) a new table saw to replace my ancient Craftsman. Looking at the DeWalt DWE7491RS or the Bosch GTS15-10.




Both seem to be good saws. Both are better than what I have now. Both get good reviews. Bosch is $100 more, but with Menards 11% rebate, it’s really only about $25.


Ha komolyan bele akarsz menni az autód módosításába, készülj fel rá, hogy ez nem olcsó — az alkatrészek, a munka és a finomhangolás gyorsan összeadódik. Ha pedig azon gondolkodsz, hogyan lehetne egy kis extra pénzt szerezni, vannak, akik egyszerűen kipróbálják a szerencséjüket (Játsszon nyerőgépekkel), bár ez persze nem garantált megoldás.

The Bosch has soft start, DeWalt doesn’t, but I don’t know if that actually matters.

0h I thought I am only one thinking about getting them)

 

[DGersic]

I took a trip to Lowes today, and was able to lay hands on both saws. Some interesting details I hadn’t seen, on both.

The riving knife on the DeWalt is easily removed. A release lever in the left side of the table is all it takes. There is a second one that is just a riving knife without the anti kickback pawls and blade guards.

The riving knife on the Bosch is modular, and adjustable so it can “easily” be moved out of the way. The blade guards and anti kickback pawls can be removed without tools. Changing the riving knife position requires removing the throat plate and reaching down in to the saw.

The DeWalt has two dust collectors. One on the back / rear that probably does most of the good. Another built in to the blade guard on top.

I liked the deployment of the Bosch stand. If I was rolling this thing in and out every day, that stand is nice. But I liked the stability of the DeWalt stand better. It isn’t as fancy, and will take a few extra seconds to set up and tear down, but it’s rock solid.

Thinking about it some more tonight, but I’m pretty sure I’m going back tomorrow to pick up the DeWalt.

 

[Dig Doug]

I want (need?) a new table saw to replace my ancient Craftsman. Looking at the DeWalt DWE7491RS or the Bosch GTS15-10.




Both seem to be good saws. Both are better than what I have now. Both get good reviews. Bosch is $100 more, but with Menards 11% rebate, it’s really only about $25.

The Bosch has soft start, DeWalt doesn’t, but I don’t know if that actually matters.

soft start would help if it ran on generator power - say out in the field/ job site

 

[tarbellb]

The DeWalt job site table saw is the industry standard for that format

I have friends who do carpentry for $10m homes that take those to the job site

The Bosch is a replica of that saw, so is the HF Hercules and maybe the Delta??

Anyways it's the rack n pinon fence w smart features like flip over fence for extended top that make it ideal.

My money- buy the HF Hercules For $350, grab the Ridgid MSUV $180 portable base or similar, use the savings for
- Wen Track Saw set for $200

 

[mike93lx]

The DeWalt job site table saw is the industry standard for that format

I have friends who do carpentry for $10m homes that take those to the job site

The Bosch is a replica of that saw, so is the HF Hercules and maybe the Delta??

Anyways it's the rack n pinon fence w smart features like flip over fence for extended top that make it ideal.

My money- buy the HF Hercules For $350, grab the Ridgid MSUV $180 portable base or similar, use the savings for
- Wen Track Saw set for $200

I'd grab a used 7491 on FBMP before that combo. The MSUV is quite tall for a table saw

 

[scooterbum46]

I've had the Dewalt for a few years, did lots of ripping of 2x stock. I like the fence, the 32' capacity is nice although I prefer other means of breaking down sheet goods. Comments on the rolling stand are correct, it is very stable when set up, but a little bit of strain for my old back in lifting it. Dado packs are an issue - depth of the arbor thread preclude use of big stacks. Soft start isn't an issue on this saw, but I wish Dewalt had put it on my big slider ( I had to put a softstart module on myself). Dust collection is meh.. I use a shop vac but it's not a cureall..

 

[tarbellb]

I'd grab a used 7491 on FBMP before that combo. The MSUV is quite tall for a table saw

Good idea, link the OP to one for sale

 

[mike93lx]

Good idea, link the OP to one for sale

The OP can search his local area. I saw several for sale around me a week or so ago

 

[tarbellb]

The OP can search his local area. I saw several for sale around me a week or so ago

OP hasnt mentioned buying used once? Saying to find good cheap used machines locally is classic GJ response, guess someone needed to say it

For ref, OP local Craigslist postings: $375 for a old used model, $275 for a 8.25", and only gets worse and further away

 

[mike93lx]

OP hasnt mentioned buying used once? Saying to find good cheap used machines locally is classic GJ response, guess someone needed to say it

For ref, OP local Craigslist postings: $375 for a old used model, $275 for a 8.25", and only gets worse and further away

Ok? I didn't suggest to buy used out of the gate, I just suggested it as an alternative to your suggestion if cost was a focus