S-O YA700B what comes from where?

[Octarine]

I just picked one of these up (and boy is my back killing me)

I understand that some parts are made in Taiwan but it is assembled in Kansas City. Does anyone know what parts come from overseas and what parts are domestic? I'm assuming that the imported parts are in the mechanism, as the heavy steel parts would be less economical to ship. I could be wrong though, it's been known to happen.

 

[toolmaker1]

SO website says made in usa?

 

[Hiball]

Pictures? Snap on has been a wee bit confusing with there model numbers. Alot of there current lineup uses the same model numbers as the past walker/lincoln models. I've found that generally any model that is followed by a "c" is generally imported.

 

[Octarine]

FYI, I just talked to a guy at Hein Werner. He confirmed that they assemble the YA700B for Snap On but his words were "almost every single piece " is made in Taiwan. The components are shipped to Kansas City where they are assembled by Hein Werner employees. They have been assembling the 700B since mid 2003; previously they were made by Lincoln, who were bought by Klore (sp.), then bought by H-W.

That said, it still seems like a damn heavy duty jack. The tech guy I talked to said that he believed it was a very good jack but I got the impression he has a H-W in his garage As an aside, the tech guy at H-W was VERY helpful and open to talking to me.

I'm going to be using this jack rarely at best so it's overkill for me even sourced from Taiwan.

 

[Monte]

That´s lame.... Try "AC Hydraulic" ... MADE in Denmark....

 

[toolmaker1]

FYI, I just talked to a guy at Hein Werner. He confirmed that they assemble the YA700B for Snap On but his words were "almost every single piece " is made in Taiwan. The components are shipped to Kansas City where they are assembled by Hein Werner employees. They have been assembling the 700B since mid 2003; previously they were made by Lincoln, who were bought by Klore (sp.), then bought by H-W.

That said, it still seems like a damn heavy duty jack. The tech guy I talked to said that he believed it was a very good jack but I got the impression he has a H-W in his garage As an aside, the tech guy at H-W was VERY helpful and open to talking to me.

I'm going to be using this jack rarely at best so it's overkill for me even sourced from Taiwan.

So they can assemble it in the USA with all taiwaneese components and claim on their website that it is made in USA? That seems a little fishy

 

[Monte]

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...&group_ID=1716&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

They don´t write "Made in..."
only:
Country Of Origin: USA

So they´re not lying...

 

[ricleh]

I believe all Snapon part numbers that begin YA indicate they are from another company. You need to research that company to see where it's made.

 

[honcho]

components, sub-assemblies, partial and complete finishing and assembly, testing, integration, packaging are all part of the process of making something somewhere.

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission makes and supposedly enforces the rules on labeling for country of origin. Here's their page on compliance

http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard

I think what confuses many people is the difference between "Qualified" claims of Made in the USA versus "Unqualified" claims. The information at the link above explains the basics of the rules.

 

[Toolhorder]

Wow, lots of misinformation on this thread....

 

[Octarine]

I'm hoping you aren't accusing me of lying or spreading misinformation. Your little jibe is too broad in my opinion for a fact based post as this. Do you have a cite for your accusation of misinformation?

 

[Eagle Point]

For what it is worth, here is a photo of my YA700 that says "Made In USA". This one goes back a few years when Lincoln built these and the YA642.
Does the "B" model say that on it?

 

[warmpancakes]

I have a b model it says assembled in usa the made in the usa ones have the part number cast into them, the assembled have a decal for the part number

 

[Hiball]

Hein Werner (Parent Company Shinn Fu) Is still Producing there Line here in the US. There Hydraulic Jacks still share the Main componenents that Walker introduced back in the Late 30's. Over the Years.. With all the Technology advancements in Seals there have been some subtle changes to but the "Core" Hydraulic System has never changed and is one of the Finest/Smoothest Around and is Time tested to boot. I cant confirm whether Shinn fu is Making these parts and shipping them overseas, but its always a possiblility as quite frankly there are very Items that are made up of many working parts that are 100% US made. I will Call and Verify with my Rep to whether they are importing Hard parts and Report back. I can say with 20+ years of Hydraulic Experience that the New Stuff i order has shown no Ill effects of cheapened material/Workmanship and I can take a New Produced Hein Werner Tanknut/Pump Piston assembly and screw it into a 60+ year old Jack. I do find it Extremely Odd that as many Hydraulic jacks Shinn fu Exports they would even take the time to Double Handle parts just to show Hein Werner was Assembled in the US. Who Knows? It might be some marketing Ploy.... As far as the New Snap On models... As i stated earlier you cant go by the Model Numbers anymore, The YA700B might not even be a Walker Design, They have changed there Suppliers but kept the Old Model Numbers. My Snap on guy doesnt keep any Jacks on the truck, So i cant verify and the "Picture doesnt Necessarily represent the Item" on the Website makes it Hard to Distinguish.

 

[Octarine]

I'm packing the rest of my stuff, the movers show up at nine am tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed I'll have it all done by Thursday. I'll take some pics of my YA700B and post them. I've also got the box but it's already full of trash out by the dumpster.

 

[I_know_Nothing]

The YA700B is essentially Torin jack, most hard parts supplied by Torin, all soft parts are USA sourced, assembled by BVA Hydraulics MO, USA.
BVA Hydraulics also assembled the YA700A until 2004

 

[EDGAR]

BVA is owned by Shinn Fu Corporation, so the YA700B is really made by Shinn Fu. Torin is not part of Shinn Fu as far a I know. Torin builds Big Red brand jacks. Shinn Fu builds Omegas, Hein Werners, Blackhawks/Porto Power, Michelins, some Sears brand jacks, Pro Lift, Snap On and other private brands. Imagine if Shinn Fu was going to have its jacks build by a competitor when they can build their own. AS IF...

SHINN FU build its parts in TAIWAN and USA depending on the brand & model.

TORIN parent co. is called CHANGSHU TONGRUN AUTO ACCESSORY CO. and this company make their jacks in CHINA.

SHINNFUAMERICA.COM (Shinn Fu USA branch) and SHINNFU.COM (Taiwan parent company)

 

[123Go]

Heres an older snap-on "B" in great shape on Ebay that states "Assembled" in USA and it is a Walker/Lincoln design. The seller has been smok'n someth'n funny though as the brand new Lincoln/HW "Made in USA" is right at his $400.00 starting price these days with sh.
But' who knows' that greedy Snap-on sticker has found several snap-on lovers over the yrs paying 700+ on a $529.20 msrp jack. I bet they hid that receipt from the ol'lady?

I know the "Made" in USA" blue/yellow HW cylinders are built in S. Dakota but I dont know where the Snap-on "assembled" jacks cylinders were built. Strange it would be different?
The only parts on a Made in USA HW jack that's imported are it's swivel casters and handle is what (2) Shinnfu reps emailed me back when I asked about HW jacks...As of this writing, "New" Snap-on jacks are non Lincoln/HW designs & are China made, they have been for yrs now.

Good shape but I don't know its age?
Auction Link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-On-Tools-floor-jack-YA700B-nice-condition-2-1-2-ton-/310651027083?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item48543e7e8b&vxp=mtr#ht_648wt_1133


Found this today thought I would add it here to update..
My guess is the first one is sold as a complete hydraulic unit for Snap-on "Imported" & "Assembled in USA" models which SERIAL NUMBERS start with a "Y"..
Second one is the normal HW rebuild Kit for the "Made in USA" models. So they are indeed different it seems?


http://www.hcrcnow.com/shop/seal-kits/snap-on/3397

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[123Go]

Heres a couple images of the YA700B on ebay. Hope it helps folks in the future to identify this jack.

 

[nelsonsales]

Really old thread but thought id add to it. There may be years that the jacks had sticker labels and were also made in the usa. I just picked up a ya632 sticker label jack 1.5 ton that the sticker says made in usa so maybe later that phased out and they sourced elsewhere but it seams there are jacks with stickers and beginning with y that say made in usa not assembled