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EGO 52" Electric Zero Turn Mower - a Different Ongoing Review

weldtoride

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Overall, I am very satisfied so far with this mower and my local Ace store, but very dissatisfied with the way the purchase was handled by Ace.com


After reading as much as I could anywhere and everywhere about battery riders in general, and also the review here by MegaVan https://www.garagejournal.com/forum...ric-zero-turn-mower-an-ongoing-review.501513/ I pulled the trigger and purchased one myself.


I am replacing a Cub Cadet 1864 tractor. It’s from the '90s; the tractor itself is all hydrostatic: hydro drive, hydro steering, (not power assist) and hydro deck lift. There is an electric clutch on the front PTO for the drive belt for the 54" deck, and a second belt on the deck powering the 3 blades. 18 Hp Kohler.


I bought it used over 20 years ago, and it’s been a real workhorse, but with the share of repairs one would expect over this much use. The last few seasons it’s been asking for more and more of my time than I want to spend with it. Nearest IH dealer is now 35 minutes away, an added time robber.


We’ve been transitioning to battery tools, got a Ryobi battery push mower 3 seasons ago for trimming what the tractor can’t get followed by a Ryobi post-hole digger (works surprisingly well), then a small EGO chainsaw and a string trimmer. Still use a couple of larger Stihl gas saws, and an Echo gas string trimmer.


My 1864 Cub is an orphan; so far most key mechanical parts are available when I look hard enough, and a local hose shop has made hydraulic lines for me. However, while I wait for parts to come, the grass doesn’t, and then gets too long to mow easily. We mow maybe 2 acres, the rest is natural or heavily wooded.


My hunt started for a battery rider started last year. I started with the IH dealer inquiring about the battery Cubs, he unequivocally said “too early” and steered me to his gas units. After, I called a local to me independent Cub repair shop I found on the IH site, and he said he had only one experience with the battery cub, and it had 4 warrantee trailer rides so far…


I started reading about all the competitors, and after reading good things about EGO, stopped by an Ace hardware that is one of three under same owner. It’s also the one that does service work for all three stores. I asked a tech there about EGO riders. He gave a thumbs up. Happened to mention I was nursing a really old Cub, he gave a thumbs down, and said we sell Cub new, but still gave Cub a thumbs down.

I talked to a store employee about ordering one, he said easier for all to order online, which turned out to be a cluster, due to corporate, not the local.


Through the whole process, Ace corporate was terrible about communication with me, the store didn’t know where/when my mower would turn up. I finally I started calling the store periodically and asking. Finally I was told by the store was told “it’s here”. So I grabbed a rental trailer and went to the store, but then they couldn’t find my mower; turns out Ace corporate shipped the wrong mower.


Weeks later it showed up and at least the local store had agreed to deliver it gratis it and the local store also gave me a $100 Ace certificate for my trouble.


I’ve got about 15 hours on it now, and so far I really like it.


I’m new to zero-turn mowers, so there’s a learning curve there. Partly because this thing is fast! It’s got 3 operating modes: control, standard, and sport. My son was visiting, had it in sport mode cutting donuts, throwing driveway gravel all over.


Tank steering isn’t new to us, we own a Case skid-steer, but this thing reacts so fast and differently there’s very little to compare.


Additionally, and this is a big difference: unlike the skid-steer, this mower is tank steer with the back wheels only, front wheels are free-turning casters. The front wheels of a traditional garden tractor usually are on the ends of a center-pivoting solid front axle, and always react to steering wheel input. Completely different: the EGO front casters are fixed at the front corners of the frame and do not articulate up/down to follow the terrain, and react to the terrain only. Consequently, on slopes near ditches if the EGO happens to lift one front corner caster or the other, it behaves like it has a mind of its own. That happens until you learn to sort of “read its mind” and even then, this sort of suspension has limits on uneven ground.


We mow maybe 2 acres of our property. Hard to tell as it’s not an open rectangular field of a yard. We mow around dozens of trees, 3 outbuildings, multiple flower and vegetable gardens, a couple parked vehicles and trailers, a tiny house on a trailer, a solar kiln on a trailer, etc, etc.

With all that stuff to mow around, the zero turn is a game–changer in terms of time.

Not meaning this to be about zero-turn mowers, but hard to separate it out.

So you probably want to hear about battery life, cost to operate, etc.

I haven’t downloaded the phone app, which is supposed to give me all this and more:


"Connected ride-on mowers have additional functionality through the EGO Connect app including:

• Mow with your phone as a map-based dashboard; see where you’ve mowed, how long, how fast, blade speed, and more.

• Use your phone as a remote key.

• View overall and per mowing session usage history in a variety of categories.

• View blade life remaining and replacement reminders."


Depending on blade speed (there are 4) and grass length, I average 2 hours run time from my batteries. How much terrain that covers depends on grass length, and how much stuff I have to maneuver around in that part of the property. Then it averages 3 hours on the charger to charge back up.

I do not have the optional catcher, nor the optional mulching blade set-up.

When grass gets long, as it did last month when we had loads of sun and rain, and life prevented me from mowing for 3 weeks, it had a tough time mowing it down. Wouldn’t mow it all down it one pass, so I made several over several days.

I am learning how much mowing power this has. It’s definitely no match for the Cub in really long grass, but then I didn’t expect it to be after all the reviews I read.

With this EGO, when a blade or blades sense an obstacle like a stick, or grass clogs under the deck and the motor loads too hard, all three blade motors shut down and a dash indicator comes on. With my too-long grass, I discovered the exit chute is often clogged. With the blades stopped, I can easily stay seated, reach over and down to lift the flap to clear the chute exit area, and very often that lets me mow until it happens again.

Setting the deck higher, or mowing less than a full pass obviously helps as well.

Normally I don’t let the grass grow unreasonably long, and I have no trouble taking full passes with less than full blade speed at a 2” high deck setting.

It’s way quieter than the gas Cub. However, the 3 deck motors have a “buzzing” noise that unfortunately our bees react to. We have a couple dozen bee hives on our property and I know how/when to mow near them with the Cub, but I have to change my strategy now with this mower. Not a deal-breaker, but definitely cause for changing up my game plan.

I definitely want to start using the phone app, but just haven’t had the time to mess with it yet.
 
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That sounds like a terrible Ace experience. I ordered mine at the counter in about 3 minutes, confirmed they would deliver it for free, and they refused to deliver until it had a full charge (so 4 hours after they called they dropped it off). We have a very large Ace that does a ton of business.

I can't recommend the mulching attachment. It's more or less fine but the cut quality decreases. The biggest advantage for me is that it fits through the shed door easier. When the barn is built I'll probably remove it and put the chute back on.

I liken the noise to driving a shop vac. We do not have hives, but we do have bees in one of our hollow trees. There can be a lot of them and what I found was taking my time and setting the blades to the lowest setting had the least impact on them, that and mowing that area later in the evening.

I'm a few years in and still haven't done the app thing. Reverse is clunky so I really should do it just to update the firmware on the mower.
 

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With the blades stopped, I can easily stay seated, reach over and down to lift the flap to clear the chute exit area, and very often that lets me mow until it happens again.
Another option I've used when I've had this issue on my gas mower is to use a bungee to hold the plastic part of the chute up. The mower can throw the grass clippings farther away and keeps it from piling up at the chute. It is a bit scary looking down and seeing the tips of one of the blades spinning in the deck and I've been covered in grass if the wind is blowing while I'm doing it. It does seem to help the mower keep from getting bogged down when the grass has gotten long.
 
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MegaVan, thanks for the info on the mulch attachment. I read that it requires baffles under the deck along with the right blades. The few reviews I found mostly complain about installing it, only 1 brief mention how well it works.

The only reason I would consider it would be for fall leaves. My leaf management plan has been simply mowing them multiple times on a dry day until they are chopped small enough to sink into the grass.

But I am also assuming the mulch baffles might also hamper clearing long grass from the deck?

niget2002, I have also considered that. On the Cub, I often mow some pretty tall weeds with the chute flap held up similarly.
 

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Just upgraded this summer. Really wanted a zero turn due to the orchard & deck width. After reading the cautions about staying away from ditch banks & slope mowing I went with a Husqvarna w/a 54” deck. Deck extends past the wheel base enough to get the ditch grass. If it ever drops a tire in the ditch its not 600 lbs.
 
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Spent half my morning trying to get the EGO app working, when I finally got it, it doesn't do much, at least the most recent version.

From online manual, it's supposed to:

"Connected ride-on mowers have additional functionality through the EGO Connect app including:

• Mow with your phone as a map-based dashboard; see where you’ve mowed, how long, how fast, blade speed, and more.

• Use your phone as a remote key.

• View overall and per mowing session usage history in a variety of categories.

• View blade life remaining and replacement reminders."

But all I can find on it now is battery charge charge level and blade speed, which are of little use, as the mower dashboard tells me that information.

Online reviews wherever I can find them agree, App is pretty useless.

However, FWIW, right away the app updated my mower software. I had just purchased it in June, when registering my warrantee, serial numbers indicated it sat around somewhere since its build date last year. I assumed the ACE dealer had updated the software when they prepped it, and maybe they did....
 

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Spent half my morning trying to get the EGO app working, when I finally got it, it doesn't do much, at least the most recent version.

From online manual, it's supposed to:

"Connected ride-on mowers have additional functionality through the EGO Connect app including:

• Mow with your phone as a map-based dashboard; see where you’ve mowed, how long, how fast, blade speed, and more.

• Use your phone as a remote key.

• View overall and per mowing session usage history in a variety of categories.

• View blade life remaining and replacement reminders."

But all I can find on it now is battery charge charge level and blade speed, which are of little use, as the mower dashboard tells me that information.

Online reviews wherever I can find them agree, App is pretty useless.

However, FWIW, right away the app updated my mower software. I had just purchased it in June, when registering my warrantee, serial numbers indicated it sat around somewhere since its build date last year. I assumed the ACE dealer had updated the software when they prepped it, and maybe they did....
Did you notice any changes to operation with the update?

Mulch kit does not like mowing below 3” and claims clogged more often if you drop below that.
 
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weldtoride

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I didn't notice any operational changes after the update, and the app does very little compared to the claims.

I thought it would be interesting if I could get it to measure the areas I mow, but like I said, other than updating software, I can only see battery charge level and blade speed, which are of little use, as the mower dashboard tells me that information.

If the app did actually somehow measure blade life, that would be meaningless to me, as I'm hard on blades. With all the trees on our property, I don't like to get out of the seat of any mower for small sticks. "Small" depends on my mood. Always found it more efficient use of my time to sharpen blades than climb out of the seat for every small branch that our trees drop.

Other than that, I still like the mower. I didn't buy it for the bells and whistles but if you're gonna claim something, deliver!
 
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weldtoride

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I thought I'd give an update as I am starting another season with this mower, around 50 hours on the meter so far.

Overall, I am very pleased with it. Especially after Spring wake-up which consists of simply bringing the batteries out of the basement, slipping them in and hooking up the charger. Unlike waking up my old gas Cub which was an annual ritual involving chemicals, trips to Napa, cursing, and invocations to the various machinery gods.

Things I have noticed:

It really, really doesn't like maneuvering around ditches, slopes, or uneven ground. The reason is it has no front suspension. For that matter, no rear suspension. Maybe should have been named zero suspension mower. The front casters are not even on a tilting beam, like most garden tractor front wheels, they're just rigidly attached the the front corners of the frame. If one caster leaves ground contact, the machine handles erratically.

It doesn't like long wet grass, so early morning mowing when there's dew present can clog the chute. I mow without the mulching attachments.

Quick turns, especially turns more than 90 degrees or wet grass can often leave a mark. As my lawn is not a show piece, it doesn't bother me, but I understand that it may bother others.

Blades are easy to remove to sharpen, which I do often.

After my first season with it I read up on storing the batteries, as I live halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee and it gets quite cold. I brought the batteries into the basement and weeks later they went into a self-discharge mode indicated by flashing. Had I not read that, it would have been a worry to see the lights.

The trailer hitch doesn't inspire confidence, so I haven't tried it as I saved the old Cub for that duty.

After my initial frustration with the App, I haven't tried or updated it lately.
 

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My first season with it I read up on storing the batteries, as I live halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee and it gets quite cold. I brought the batteries into the basement and weeks later they went into a self-discharge mode indicated by flashing. Had I not read that, it would have been a worry to see the lights.
I've always read that cold is good for "storage" of LiFePO4. Can you shut the batteries down completely? It'd concern me that they are constantly drawing some minor current internally based on what you said.

How many batteries does this thing take? What's charge time? We've been using the Greenworks Pro (60v), so far I'm a fan. They weren't selling very well and got a great deal on it.
 

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I thought I'd give an update as I am starting another season with this mower, around 50 hours on the meter so far.

Overall, I am very pleased with it. Especially after Spring wake-up which consists of simply bringing the batteries out of the basement, slipping them in and hooking up the charger. Unlike waking up my old gas Cub which was an annual ritual involving chemicals, trips to Napa, cursing, and invocations to the various machinery gods.

Things I have noticed:

It really, really doesn't like maneuvering around ditches, slopes, or uneven ground. The reason is it has no front suspension. For that matter, no rear suspension. Maybe should have been named zero suspension mower. The front casters are not even on a tilting beam, like most garden tractor front wheels, they're just rigidly attached the the front corners of the frame. If one caster leaves ground contact, the machine handles erratically.
Most ZTR don’t have a suspension on the wheels but more and more are putting suspension under the seats. I am not real thrilled with the performance of the suspension on my Ferris either, it leans slightly in turns making the deck cut unevenly especially if the suspension is set to a softer setting.

Most ZTR struggle on hills/slopes as well. It more of an issue of weight on the mid mount ZTR. My father keeps an old cub cadet 1450 around just to mow the slopes of the ditches and around the grain bins that is sketchy with his old toro or new JD ZTR. The walkbehinds, surfers and front mounts like the grasshoppers do much better on the slopes due to the weight fore and aft center on the drive wheels compared to a midmount ZTR will all the weight forward of the drive wheels. My walk behinds have no issues with side slopes so steep it’s hard to walk on them
Quick turns, especially turns more than 90 degrees or wet grass can often leave a mark. As my lawn is not a show piece, it doesn't bother me, but I understand that it may bother others.
One trick that really helps prevent the pivot turning scalping that almost all zero turns will do is to just slightly reverse the inside wheel as you turn. Not much at all is needed, just maybe one rotation of the inner wheel during a 180 degree turn
 
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weldtoride

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I've always read that cold is good for "storage" of LiFePO4. Can you shut the batteries down completely? It'd concern me that they are constantly drawing some minor current internally based on what you said.

How many batteries does this thing take? What's charge time? We've been using the Greenworks Pro (60v), so far I'm a fan. They weren't selling very well and got a great deal on it.
As far as cold storage, EGO's website says this: "For best practice, we recommend storing your EGO batteries in a climate controlled area that is dry, gets ventilation, and between 50°F-80°F (10°C-26°C) all year round." Something that made me wonder about while watching all those EGO snowblower commercials last winter. While I do have a garage, it is not heated, nor attached, so it gets COLD here. Here is halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee.

I don't know the answer to shutting down batteries completely, I just let the chip in them do their thing. Ego literature says that their batteries that do have chips will self-draw down to about 30% if I recall correctly. That is apparently optimum for long term storage.

I purchased my Ego with 6 batteries, 12 amp hour each. The manual says a minimum of 15 amp hour capacity is recommended to operate it and 30 is better.

Charge time is hard to calculate as I have only discharged them to the point of "limp-home mode" twice and it took at over 4 hours to recover.

Hope that helps...
 
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weldtoride

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One trick that really helps prevent the pivot turning scalping that almost all zero turns will do is to just slightly reverse the inside wheel as you turn. Not much at all is needed, just maybe one rotation of the inner wheel during a 180 degree turn
Thanks for that. I'll give it a try.

However, it may sound lazy or callus, but I just want to get it mowed. I live rurally, on 5 acres that was the small property amidst large farms when I moved in 40 years ago. Never fertilized as that makes you mow more, never applied chemicals as we have a wetland in the corner of the property. I just mow it and leave the cut grass where it lies to recycle itself.
 

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The Ego batteries will automatically self discharge if they're not used in something like two months. I'm not going to look it up, but it's in the manual for whatever tool you purchased. This supposedly increases the life, so as said I just let them do their thing over the winter and recharge before my first mow.
 

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The Ego batteries will automatically self discharge if they're not used in something like two months. I'm not going to look it up, but it's in the manual for whatever tool you purchased. This supposedly increases the life, so as said I just let them do their thing over the winter and recharge before my first mow.
I didn’t know that guess I never read the manual

Always wondering why minor discharged when I go to use them after an extended period
 
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