Nope, didn't see that one but it's merged now as well. Apparently, that one would have been the first thread.
People who buy tools they will never use
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Maybe it’s too late and AI has already taken
Over completely
It’ll probably be in my YouTube feed when I get home tonight
neophyte
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The Bionic wrench gas been put thru certain “gimmick” tool tests and come out decently, and at least one or two members on GJ actually like the Robogrip pliers.
The Robogrip brand or trademark must have also gotten sold, because the pliers are still in production, under the “Robogrip” name, and mostly seem to be sold thru places carrying tools for industrial use, which is counter yo what one would expect, given the reputation as a tool purchased as Christmas or Father’s Day gifts by the non-knowledgable.
There is a big difference to buying an entire Snapper truck or HF store from having what you need to do your job, and grow to new tasks.
As an auto mechanic I was always short one blinking tool for that new model car.
Torx and M fasteners were some I recall well.
I got what I would need then and now most vehicles don't use them anymore. It was impossible to keep up.
As a heavy equipment mechanic it was other stuff auto techs would never need.
Now scanners are proprietary and very expensive. Cat and Case software updates can cost thousands and the actual scanners need to be bought every few years.
It cost my boss a lot to become the premier shop in town. But he ultimately couldn't keep up by software being unavailable.
I made him big cap wrenches for hydraulic work from plate steel. That would have cost hundreds. They have been in his shop ten years already. No one else around has them.
Too many, too much? Not if he needs them tomorrow.
It's all relative to where you are in life and doing at any time.
As an auto mechanic I was always short one blinking tool for that new model car.
Torx and M fasteners were some I recall well.
I got what I would need then and now most vehicles don't use them anymore. It was impossible to keep up.
As a heavy equipment mechanic it was other stuff auto techs would never need.
Now scanners are proprietary and very expensive. Cat and Case software updates can cost thousands and the actual scanners need to be bought every few years.
It cost my boss a lot to become the premier shop in town. But he ultimately couldn't keep up by software being unavailable.
I made him big cap wrenches for hydraulic work from plate steel. That would have cost hundreds. They have been in his shop ten years already. No one else around has them.
Too many, too much? Not if he needs them tomorrow.
It's all relative to where you are in life and doing at any time.
southalabama
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Sorry. My answer was poorly worded. I’ve had to race to store before closing or discover at midnight I need another fitting or part.
After the death of my father I had to assume his responsibilities which included being the family maintenance man.
I have always heard twice; and on the third time it was time for you to buy it. Now, I will say that I think that it's ok to violate this rule with your buddy if you sharpen the blade and change the oil on his lawnmower yearly and then borrow his wheelbarrow in return. But if you're working at the Toyota dealership and borrowing sockets from the guy next to you, nope.
Bodj Built
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I learned if you have to borrow it twice from a coworker, go buy it when you clock out of work.
That first video describes me very well. I've said here before, tools are like lottery tickets to me. I hold one and think of all the things I could do with it. I don't collect or hoard tools. But I build and/or fix TONS of stuff including the house I've been building for the past 9 years. Building and fixing is really all I am.
So I totally resonate with the sense that a tool could help me do a job better or faster and that holds some degree of wonder for me. That said, while my wife would disagree, I don't feel I have that many tools. I have a decent set of basic automotive tools. And I have very basic carpentry hand tools, a mill, and a wood lathe. And with these tools I've built or fixed great things, and fed my family with the things I've produced in times of need.
I have said and witnessed that garages or wood shops are men's final domains. You get to a certain skill level and they sorta stop listening to you at work. Your body starts to do things you cannot control and your doctor insists you do X, Y, and Z. Your wife rules all things domestic. Your kids find their own paths, regardless of your advice. The woodshed is the one place in a man's life where he has any remaining control. He alone decides what goes where. And when he sets his table saw fence to 1.000", he wants wood that measures 1.000" by God.
I think an awful lot of woodworkers seek control or influence over one last part of their lives. I totally get the part about the Japanese saw.
I feel a little attacked or exposed by the video, but I shouldn't and you shouldn't. Jay Leno is probably one of us. Adam Savage certainly is. Maybe this is why some men play golf. I can think of much worse things to do with my life.
So I totally resonate with the sense that a tool could help me do a job better or faster and that holds some degree of wonder for me. That said, while my wife would disagree, I don't feel I have that many tools. I have a decent set of basic automotive tools. And I have very basic carpentry hand tools, a mill, and a wood lathe. And with these tools I've built or fixed great things, and fed my family with the things I've produced in times of need.
I have said and witnessed that garages or wood shops are men's final domains. You get to a certain skill level and they sorta stop listening to you at work. Your body starts to do things you cannot control and your doctor insists you do X, Y, and Z. Your wife rules all things domestic. Your kids find their own paths, regardless of your advice. The woodshed is the one place in a man's life where he has any remaining control. He alone decides what goes where. And when he sets his table saw fence to 1.000", he wants wood that measures 1.000" by God.
I think an awful lot of woodworkers seek control or influence over one last part of their lives. I totally get the part about the Japanese saw.
I feel a little attacked or exposed by the video, but I shouldn't and you shouldn't. Jay Leno is probably one of us. Adam Savage certainly is. Maybe this is why some men play golf. I can think of much worse things to do with my life.
zimman
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I just built a hutch over the last few days. I used a lot of tools and was proud I had them available.
However. My favorite saying is;
If no one has been over to your house to see your collection of Humel Figurines in six months, dump all the **** in the trash can and hit the road. America is beautiful and you're missing the show.
Zim
However. My favorite saying is;
If no one has been over to your house to see your collection of Humel Figurines in six months, dump all the **** in the trash can and hit the road. America is beautiful and you're missing the show.
Zim
That quote isn't really it for me. People don't collect tools to impress their friends I don't think. I could be wrong. I think people collect things because they like them, more like the Hummel figures. They want to see them. I call that "nest feathering". Women do that. Men don't always get to.
I could see collecting certain types of tools for display like plow planes or really old surface gages (I have a few of both, all of which I use). They would look cool to me on a shelf. Can't see doing that with a wrench or a ratchet. When my house is done, I may retire my Stiletto framing hammer and hang it on a wall somewhere reverently with before pics. I've built just about every bit of it myself, with that hammer hung by my side.
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Now it all makes sense.....
When do we get to the psychology of people who repost AI drivel?
The last vid from this "channel" spawned no less then 3 threads
The last vid from this "channel" spawned no less then 3 threads
MichaelP
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After about 1.5 min of watching this, I quit. The most memorable moment was the animation of using wood plane sideways.
Now I'll try to watch driveway from my garage. Must be more fascinating...
Now I'll try to watch driveway from my garage. Must be more fascinating...
dcg9381
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I have a do-nothing chair in the shop. It's like adult time-out. And I love it.
thunderskunk
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I call it my “beer perch.” The cat has since claimed it.
zkdiesel
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Not allowed to have idle hands in my shops
alfadan
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The slop channel has a good thing going; pick a common thing people do, have AI make some drivel about and create some animation and sit back to watch the views come in.When do we get to the psychology of people who repost AI drivel?
The last vid from this "channel" spawned no less then 3 threads
" The psychology of people who buy slightly green bananas"
" HEY, I BUY SLIGHTLY GREEN BANANAS! I WONDER WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME!"
bluedog225
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I got up here at noon. I’ve managed to have two cups of coffee and go look at the pond.
aquinob
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We have neighbors that were constantly hanging in the garage if it was warm enough. Big screen tv and probably a kegerator out there as well and a table for cards. I think the primary reason was that he couldn't smoke in the house but the garage was his space. But his wife also hung out there as well so who knows..
dcg9381
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Before I owned a shop, I contributed to a "shared" shop arrangement at the airport. I got lucky with a super good group of guys. Fridge, kegerator, BBQ grill. Everyone helped with the place and kept it clean.
We built a short motor track for the kids out back. Spent many an evening over a pit fire.
Most of what we did was nothing...... Good times. Big bonus was getting to fly these things. But it definitely requires the right people.
We built a short motor track for the kids out back. Spent many an evening over a pit fire.
Most of what we did was nothing...... Good times. Big bonus was getting to fly these things. But it definitely requires the right people.
thunderskunk
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To discuss the root of the problem: “I used AI to create a video people watched that sounds like it’s rooted in fact.” … eh. The most harm this in particular could do is make people state opinions and baseless assumptions as facts. I had a buddy send one to me about tools, and it didn’t sound quite right. They simplified a pretty complex problem to a point where statements made were just untrue. AI is based off of the internet, garbage included. Garbage in, garbage out.
All food was organic until the word was associated with irregular farming practices. Now it gets its own isle, and you get in trouble if you say an apple is organic if you didn’t produce it “organically.” If I had $5, I’d bet we get an organic isle of the internet for non-AI generated content, and someone is going to get mad when people continue to put AI slop in the non-AI section.
All food was organic until the word was associated with irregular farming practices. Now it gets its own isle, and you get in trouble if you say an apple is organic if you didn’t produce it “organically.” If I had $5, I’d bet we get an organic isle of the internet for non-AI generated content, and someone is going to get mad when people continue to put AI slop in the non-AI section.
4th thread merged.
bluedog225
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Pretty sure all food is carbon based, therefore organic.
thunderskunk
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Perhaps all intelligence is an imitation, therefore artificial.