Door handle lock mechanism fastener broke

[vdotmatrix]

When this loose screw would not tighten, i discovered it was broken Off from the internal door mechanism thus the screw with the broken fitting. There are no manuf ID on this door except for some numbers on the hinges….
No idea where to go from here.

 

[Junkman]

Most likely a proprietary part used by the door manufacturer. Unless you can find who made the door, there is no easy repair. Who knows, it might be original to the house when it was built, and the manufacturer is long out of business.

 

[vdotmatrix]

Most likely a proprietary part used by the door manufacturer. Unless you can find who made the door, there is no easy repair. Who knows, it might be original to the house when it was built, and the manufacturer is long out of business.

No, it is part of the new addition in 2004.

 

[whateg01]

What part are you trying to fix? You have pics of a screw missing in the trim of the door handle, a hole in the edge of the door where a screen may have been, and a broken door stop.

 

[nutjob]

Try here:
SWISCO.com

You may need to remove to help identify parts

Kevin

 

[nadogail]

I have been able to find some replacement door parts at Home Depot.

Good Hunting

 

[Jacko264]

What part are you trying to fix? You have pics of a screw missing in the trim of the door handle, a hole in the edge of the door where a screen may have been, and a broken door stop.

It looks to me as if the screw that looks like a door stop goes though the inside door handle and screws into the white part that’s broken of the outside handle
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[tncatadjuster]

I see numbers in the first photo but cannot make them out, look again?

 

[vdotmatrix]

What part are you trying to fix? You have pics of a screw missing in the trim of the door handle, a hole in the edge of the door where a screen may have been, and a broken door stop.

I included extraneous pictures for context but they inly confused the point. The interior door mechanism attachment point where the screw attaches to has broken off. SEE PICTURE.

 

[whateg01]

It looks to me as if the screw that looks like a door stop goes though the inside door handle and screws into the white part that’s broken of the outside handle
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I didn't recognize it as a screw!

 

[whateg01]

I included extraneous pictures for context but they inly confused the point. The interior door mechanism attachment point where the screw attaches to has broken off. SEE PICTURE.

So can you not take the other screw out and see what the rest of the mechanism looks like?

 

[BillK]

I see what looks like a 2379512 in the first picture ? I would take the entire lock assembly out of the door and see if there are any other identifying marks on it. Take it to a local glass company and see what they say ?

 

[BillK]

Now that I look at your picture again I bet that the white piece on the screw is part of the outer handle ? Take it apart and figure it out

 

[vdotmatrix]

What part are you trying to fix? You have pics of a screw missing in the trim of the door handle, a hole in the edge of the door where a screen may have been, and a broken door stop.

OMG, i didn't take into account the way people could interpret what they see.

The way you describe it and removing the offbase extraneous images will help me better describe the issue.

There are two screws that hold the trim in place and the door handle together.

One has broken off internally somehow. It is not a doorstop hahahahahaha! it is a piece of aluminum I suspect.

That’s it.

 

[vdotmatrix]

I see what looks like a 2379512 in the first picture ? I would take the entire lock assembly out of the door and see if there are any other identifying marks on it. Take it to a local glass company and see what they say ?

HOLY ****…..I NEVER NOTICED THOSE NUMBERS. I am awestruck…..and embarrassed. I also didnt notice the logo …. AW…. Gee what do i think that could possibly stand for…

 

[vdotmatrix]

AI Overview

The number 2379512 refers to a discontinued "old style" 3-point lock mechanism for Andersen Frenchwood Hinged Patio Doors (active panel, 6-8 or 80-inch tall doors). [1]
Important Replacement Information

• Discontinued: The 2579512 lock mechanism is no longer produced.
• Replacement Part: It has been replaced by the new, improved 2579771 3-Point Lock Mechanism.
• Compatibility: The new 2579771 lock works for Andersen 400 Series Frenchwood Hinged In-Swing or Out-Swing doors manufactured from 1988 to the present. [1, 2, 3]

 

[larry4406]

I saw that same number but got nowhere via googling.

 

[vdotmatrix]

https://parts.andersenwindows.com/detail_2579771__d_fwh_lok.html

OUCH

 

[The Cobbler]

It looks to me as if the screw .... goes though the inside door handle and screws into the white part that’s broken of the outside handle

that's exactly what happened . it could be possible to drill it out & use a chicago bolt or *** bolt etc to temporarily secure it

 

[vdotmatrix]

If I had a video feed from my house you folks would be rolling on the floor.

The wife seems to think i can just superglue the broken fitting back in because it isn't doing anything.

I repeated myself too many times, the door handle-locking mechanism is held together with TWO bolts- one is broken.

i know this is a personal problem.

perhaps i could TIG weld this piece back…..doubtful.

 

[larry4406]

Probably pot metal and wouldn’t accept TIG

Maybe JD Weld? I’ve not tried the stuff but many swear by it.

 

[The Cobbler]

pot metal ( as mentioned above) is not really repairable . and superglue is a waste of time. I don;t know how well JB weld will hold up, there's a lot more stress on that screw than you realize

 

[Wrench97]

Taper head *** bolt, remove the outer handle and drill a pilot hole from the inside then taper the outside, little bit of urethane caulk under the head and reinstall.

 

[vdotmatrix]

This is what broke……. THE NUT

 

[vdotmatrix]

Taper head *** bolt, remove the outer handle and drill a pilot hole from the inside then taper the outside, little bit of urethane caulk under the head and reinstall.

Man you beat me to it. Thank you!

 

[vdotmatrix]

pot metal ( as mentioned above) is not really repairable . and superglue is a waste of time. I don;t know how well JB weld will hold up, there's a lot more stress on that screw than you realize

It not me it is my wife the wannabe engineer.

 

[OldDoItAll]

https://parts.andersenwindows.com/category_d_fwh_hts.html

Pricey!

 

[Gutman]

I second SWISCO. It took me some time but I was able to find replacement parts for several storm doors, sliding doors, and other window hardware, all out of production.

I'll bet that boss that broke off is attached to the plate on the opposite side of the door. You might be able to find a set that would fit, the key being to match the penetrations in the door for the locking/latching mechanism and the handle. Worst case, your screw holes on a replacement might be off, but just drill new holes through to accommodate the new mechanism.

 

[vdotmatrix]

special kind of NUT with the security indents that fit the door from the outside. I think my best bet will be to contact Anderson in the morning.

 

[whateg01]

If I had a video feed from my house you folks would be rolling on the floor.

The wife seems to think i can just superglue the broken fitting back in because it isn't doing anything.

I repeated myself too many times, the door handle-locking mechanism is held together with TWO bolts- one is broken.

i know this is a personal problem.

perhaps i could TIG weld this piece back…..doubtful.

I wouldn't try super glue, but depending on what the inside of the trim looks like and how much of a hole there is to go through, some epoxy might work. I don't think you're going to have any luck welding it.

 

[vdotmatrix]

I wouldn't try super glue, but depending on what the inside of the trim looks like and how much of a hole there is to go through, some epoxy might work. I don't think you're going to have any luck welding it.

Of course I am not going to use anything but genuine replacement hardware……sheeeeesh! Thx

 

[larry4406]

Of course I am not going to use anything but genuine replacement hardware……sheeeeesh! Thx

Certified Anderson installer as well?

 

[vdotmatrix]

I went to swissco in the meantime!

 

[jhelrey]

Drill through it and use a *** bolt.

 

[Jlanciani]

Call and talk to someone, it may well still be under warranty.

 

[djbmw]

special kind of NUT with the security indents that fit the door from the outside. I think my best bet will be to contact Anderson in the morning.

Isnt this the perfect job for a 3d printer? Remove the brass/metal threads from the old part and 3d print the new part around the old threads.
Thats the next "tool on the list" for me, anyway...

 

[vdotmatrix]

Isnt this the perfect job for a 3d printer? Remove the brass/metal threads from the old part and 3d print the new part around the old threads.
Thats the next "tool on the list" for me, anyway...

I have a Prusa mk4s. could be easy, standard threads, fusion360 is robust but i need metal for security and durability. Prusa is open sourced, prusaUSA is in DE.

 

[djbmw]

I have a Prusa mk4s. could be easy, standard threads, fusion360 is robust but i need metal for security and durability. Prusa is open sourced, prusaUSA is in DE.

Cant you encompass the brass threaded insert into the print? Ive seen this done a number of times where you print a bit, pause the print and insert the threaded insert, then continue the print - encompassing the metal inside.

 

[vdotmatrix]

I contacted ANDERSON this morning and we did a video conference and he looked at the door and issue. Even though it is out of warranty, they are sending me a set of these free of charge.

 

[vdotmatrix]

Cant you encompass the brass threaded insert into the print? Ive seen this done a number of times where you print a bit, pause the print and insert the threaded insert, then continue the print - encompassing the metal inside.

It is more fun to design the part in fusion360 and print it all at once. But 3D filament is not for this application. Too much force on the handle when opening and closing the door or lock. Thanks for responding.