New trailer project

[Kaizen]

I am trying to get some equipment out of my garage that I use for a hobby. So I picked up a used enclosed 7x14 dual axle trailer with black sides (covered wagon i believe). I've been trying to do some reasearch and the internet is all over the map with advicce so figured I'd ask the people I trust the most.
Problem 1 - It currently has a wood floor with some porch and floor paint on it. I need to be able to hose out the trailer. The walls will be fine with exterior latex but the floor i'm thinking epoxy. I did epoxy on my garage and love it but the inside of this trailer will be over 110 degrees on a day like today when we are at 90. I'd probably sand what is there for good adhesion but is there any other prep to wood that needs to be done? I'd hate for this to start delaminating after moving everything into it. I had thought of rubber laminate and think the heat changes would cause issues with expansion and contraction.

Problem 2 - There was lettering on the outside which was removed. Lots of glue still remains. Thought i'd just get an eraser wheel and be done quick. Well I was wrong. It does remove some of it and using 99% alcohol I can get the rest off. There is a lot of it on 3 sides. It is screwed down every 4 feet. Anyone know if both sides are black so i could just flip them around? Even after getting it all off i can see the difference from the new paint under the sticker and the rest. Its smooth and wondering if buffing would even it out? below is a picture of the amount being removed by the wheel. The paint is not scratched through.

 

[tinmanwpk]

Acetone or Xylene. Hot stuff and use only outdoors for the adhesive.

Both sides may or may not be painted. I am of the belief that a trailer manufacturer will only buy one-sided painted metal. Quite often the other side is white. All you can do is check out a small corner somewhere. We are metal fabricators and you may be lucky or not. But if a metal supplier doesn't have to paint both sides then it saves money. Good luck, I would check a small unobtrusive corner and then repair it.

 

[Torque&Recoil]

I used epoxy over wood on my enclosed trailer, but I did it for reasons of cost. I really wanted to use coin rubber flooring, but that stuff is pretty pricey. That said, it seems to me that "rubber" is the ideal material if you are concerned about thermal expansion. When the floor moves due to heat, the rubber flooring is going to stretch right along with the wood floor. And, rubber flooring would be ideal for frequent washing. Another thing to keep in mind, is that epoxy is pretty slippery when wet. I'm very happy with the way my epoxy floor looks - except first time stepping on the ramp with wet shoes, I fell right on my a**.

Regarding the sticker goo - you can buy professional solvents for that stuff that work better than alcohol. I think the last solvent I used was made by PPG, but I don't see it online anymore. Maybe Eastwood PRE would work.

 

[tinmanwpk]

Tractor Supply has horse stall mats that are economical. Thick and good. Not sure about odor or not.

 

[Renegade1LI]

I used truck bed liner in my snowmobile & utility trailer, both are holding up great. In the utility trailer I went 6"s up the wall to make it easier to wash out. I went with durabak, lots of good reviews, also did the roof of the trailers so I never have to seal the seams again.

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[Kaizen]

Acetone or Xylene. Hot stuff and use only outdoors for the adhesive.

Both sides may or may not be painted. I am of the belief that a trailer manufacturer will only buy one-sided painted metal. Quite often the other side is white. All you can do is check out a small corner somewhere. We are metal fabricators and you may be lucky or not. But if a metal supplier doesn't have to paint both sides then it saves money. Good luck, I would check a small unobtrusive corner and then repair it.

I'll take a look. it just laughed at acetone. i think i have some xylene kicking around to try as well.

 

[Kaizen]

I used epoxy over wood on my enclosed trailer, but I did it for reasons of cost. I really wanted to use coin rubber flooring, but that stuff is pretty pricey. That said, it seems to me that "rubber" is the ideal material if you are concerned about thermal expansion. When the floor moves due to heat, the rubber flooring is going to stretch right along with the wood floor. And, rubber flooring would be ideal for frequent washing. Another thing to keep in mind, is that epoxy is pretty slippery when wet. I'm very happy with the way my epoxy floor looks - except first time stepping on the ramp with wet shoes, I fell right on my a**.

Regarding the sticker goo - you can buy professional solvents for that stuff that work better than alcohol. I think the last solvent I used was made by PPG, but I don't see it online anymore. Maybe Eastwood PRE would work.

I saw those rubber penny mats and was concerned about water and stuff getting down the edges which led me to epoxy where I can seal the edges and go up the wall. Hopefully making a pan of sorts. I hear you on slip. I added double on my garage and glad i did every winter when i walk in with snow encased boots. I looked up a pro one and it was like 65 a quart. At that cost i might as well spend 100 per panel and replace them. Trying to get by so it looks less ugly

 

[Kaizen]

I used truck bed liner in my snowmobile & utility trailer, both are holding up great. In the utility trailer I went 6"s up the wall to make it easier to wash out. I went with durabak, lots of good reviews, also did the roof of the trailers so I never have to seal the seams again.

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That might be the ticket. I know bedliner is the only thing holding the sides of my truck together. How many coats did you use on yours? I like that they have lighter colors. In my case it will help with making sure its clean.

 

[Renegade1LI]

That might be the ticket. I know bedliner is the only thing holding the sides of my truck together. How many coats did you use on yours? I like that they have lighter colors. In my case it will help with making sure its clean.

I went with 2 coats, maybe could of got by with one but 2 looks much better, great bond going on plywood.

 

[whateg01]

The skin may be taped to the frame between the edges where it's screwed down. When I've bought sheets of aluminum it was painted white on one side and bare on the other.

 

[PCustoms]

I am trying to get some equipment out of my garage that I use for a hobby. So I picked up a used enclosed 7x14 dual axle trailer with black sides (covered wagon i believe). I've been trying to do some reasearch and the internet is all over the map with advicce so figured I'd ask the people I trust the most.
Problem 1 - It currently has a wood floor with some porch and floor paint on it. I need to be able to hose out the trailer. The walls will be fine with exterior latex but the floor i'm thinking epoxy. I did epoxy on my garage and love it but the inside of this trailer will be over 110 degrees on a day like today when we are at 90. I'd probably sand what is there for good adhesion but is there any other prep to wood that needs to be done? I'd hate for this to start delaminating after moving everything into it. I had thought of rubber laminate and think the heat changes would cause issues with expansion and contraction.

Problem 2 - There was lettering on the outside which was removed. Lots of glue still remains. Thought i'd just get an eraser wheel and be done quick. Well I was wrong. It does remove some of it and using 99% alcohol I can get the rest off. There is a lot of it on 3 sides. It is screwed down every 4 feet. Anyone know if both sides are black so i could just flip them around? Even after getting it all off i can see the difference from the new paint under the sticker and the rest. Its smooth and wondering if buffing would even it out? below is a picture of the amount being removed by the wheel. The paint is not scratched through.

That "metal" seams to have a weird texture....

Can we get an overall shot of this trailer?

 

[Torque&Recoil]

That bed liner is an interesting idea. I was under the impression that it only came in black, but Durabak seems to have quite a few colors available.

 

[Kaizen]

That "metal" seams to have a weird texture....

Can we get an overall shot of this trailer?

That is after using the eraser so all gummy. Is it possible its plastic?

 

[PCustoms]

That is after using the eraser so all gummy. Is it possible its plastic?

I think it might be a fiberglass panel, I can see a slight weave texture

 

[nadogail]

Home Depot sells GOOF OFF, (repackaged XYELINE sp?) that will remove many adhesives.
Porch and Deck enamel should stand up for routine cleaning.
May your trailer give you good service for many years.

 

[gregs]

I use Rapid Remover which is designed to remove the adhesive from vinyl wrap. It works very well. I see that Chemical Guys are promoting some new products to handle vinyl wrap removal as well.

 

[Kaizen]

I think it might be a fiberglass panel, I can see a slight weave texture

I'll take off a corner and see. maybe just flipping it if so is the easiest thing

 

[Smilodon]

Tractor Supply has horse stall mats that are economical. Thick and good. Not sure about odor or not.

I've used them for various things and highly recommend them. That said, they do stink (varying greatly from one to another) and would be a tough call for an enclosed trailer. Also, they are heavy and vary quite a bit in price (look for a sale in other words).

Not to talk them down. In an number of applications, they worked great (and the weight was an advantage).

 

[Renegade1LI]

That bed liner is an interesting idea. I was under the impression that it only came in black, but Durabak seems to have quite a few colors available.

I believe they will also custom match a color.

 

[racecougar]

I'd shoot the floor/lower interior walls with U-POL's Raptor. You can get it in a bunch of different base colors, and can tint it beyond that, if you desire.

 

[gregs]

On a somewhat related question... Experience with which DIY bedliner creates the most texture when dried? I want to coat the fenders on my recent car hauler trailer purchase I am working on. The fenders are a little banged up and have gotten them to about 80% and thinking this could camouflage some of it as well as taking care of the beat up paint and provide future protection.

 

[racecougar]

I cannot divulge too much, but the OEM I work for utilizes U-POL Raptor with the traction slip-resistant additive for specific deck areas on equipment/vehicles. It works and holds up very well.

 

[gregs]

I cannot divulge too much, but the OEM I work for utilizes U-POL Raptor with the traction slip-resistant additive for specific deck areas on equipment/vehicles. It works and holds up very well.

I would guess that they spray it ? I see that most DIY use a coarse roller to apply which I am guessing that the thicker it is may create a more coarse or heavy pattern.

 

[racecougar]

I would guess that they spray it ? I see that most DIY use a coarse roller to apply which I am guessing that the thicker it is may create a more coarse or heavy pattern.

Correct. I've never tried rolling it. You can play with the texture by adjusting your air pressure at the Shutz gun.

 

[PCustoms]

I sprayed Raptor on my bed, can definitely get texture, but I wouldn't expect it to hide dents.

May also want a flat finish...

 

[gregs]

I figured it would be a good application. Back in the day I would buy a couple new fenders when they where $25 a piece, but now they are $100+ each. Plus its a working trailer and is going to get banged up.

 

[Renegade1LI]

Durabak comes with a special textured roller, you can hide alot of imperfections, especially if you do 2 coats.

 

[Jacko264]

For glue removal Autoglem glue remover is good
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[Jacko264]

This is the stuff

 

[Kaizen]

Thanks all. I'm going to pull the panel and see what I find before i continue removeing. Appreciate the bed lining suggestions. Going to make a desision after I clean it out a little more.

 

[PCustoms]

Thanks all. I'm going to pull the panel and see what I find before i continue removeing.

Depending on how it's out (glued?) together I'd be very hesitant to start tearing into it for a surface issue

 

[Renegade1LI]

Depending on how it's out (glued?) together I'd be very hesitant to start tearing into it for a surface issue

I agree, don't remove the panel if you don't have to, the seams are sealed all around. Also if the trailer isn't sitting blocked up square and level you may not get the panel to line up. I would try some compound on a wheel first, if that doesn't work than repaint.

 

[manwithtools]

I'm going to pull the panel and see what I find before i continue removeing.

Don't do that, it'll create more issues than you want. Call Covered Wagon and ask what the wall material is and explain your issue. I'll bet they have dealt with this before and know what works best. Have your trailers serial number handy when you call them.

 

[Kaizen]

Depending on how it's out (glued?) together I'd be very hesitant to start tearing into it for a surface issue

I think that is the only way to know what its made of. guess i could call the manufacturer. It feels more like a plastic then metal. So even where I can get all of the glue off I don't think I can buff it so the letters will still be a different darkness and clear as day.

 

[manwithtools]

It feels more like a plastic then metal.

I have a Covered Wagon and according to their website and the look/ feel of my trailer, the sides are 0.030" Aluminum. Make the phone call to find out what you really have. It could save some real heartache moving forward.

 

[jeep_n_hog]

Ive had good luck with Denatured Alcohol, taking off glue and permanent marker "art work" from the side of my truck. Alot of glues aren't solvent based, so Acetone and the like don't do anything. Butfor some reason, Denatured alcohol works. For glues and sealants with wax in it, use Naptha.