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Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT 1950s Craftsman Garage retro remodel

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A bunch of bicycles, a husky and a mini bike?
Actually, you are not wrong, as far as a motorcycle goes!

What's funny is that it looked like that stuff left, but the mini bike was tucked around the corner, the basketcase Husky (the 3rd one!) I mainly put up in the rafters, as I know I'm not going to get to it before the other two.

A bunch of bicycle will be leaving, destined for the co-op.
 
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Great to see updates to this most excellent project. It was one of the first I looked at, right after The 12 Gauge Garage.

Really appreciate that, thank you. I'm probably far more ADHD and far less talented than Jack, so the garage frequently goes through these whirlwinds where it turns to a complete mess, and then life happens and I don't get out there for a month or more at a time. But the motivation right now it really high, so I'm trying to capture that and get back to the original vision of the garage. Your support is immensely appreciated!
 

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A bunch of bicycles, a husky and a mini bike?

@Red Leader - I love seeing the Huskies. Way back in the day, I had an early 70's 250CR that the previous owner had converted to a WR. Did a ton of desert riding/racing and then spent $$$ to convert it back to a CR. I was working in a HD/Yamaha/Honda shop at the time and one of my vendors was looking for a WR tank. We traded so I got the small tank for free but had to buy all the transmission stuff. Motocrossed that version for a few years before selling it.

I loved that machine. Came with the big binder(s) full of service info and even a full physical conditioning program - Husqvarna officially approved.
 

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I am just finishing up my own two week sprint of cleaning the garage and it went through that whirlwind phase you're in now. But I'm through the other side and I can tell you it's worth it!

My garage is still stuffed with tools and raw materials, but it's all stuff I decided to keep and found a way to organize... The clutter of postponed decisions occupying the center of the garage is about 90% gone.

Beyond the physical free space, I'm mentally noticing more white space now that my brain isn't subconsciously analyzing how to fix this or where to organize that... And that clarity is unlocking other unexpected things... like an unexpected chat with Gemini where I finally realized that even though I love my landcruiser, I will always be slightly too tall for it. 💥 A whole bunch of planned landcruiser mods (several of which I have parts for) are no longer on my to-do list.


So keep at it, it's worth it in the end.
 

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Are you selling or donating the bikes? I have a couple I need to get rid of as well (my son outgrew), and wondered if you knew a local place.
 
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Are you selling or donating the bikes? I have a couple I need to get rid of as well (my son outgrew), and wondered if you knew a local place.
It's a little tough, but coming up on the good riding season, so it should be the best time of the year to sell or donate bikes soon, after we get done with this winter weather (yes, we should be seen snow this week!). I talked to an older gentleman in our church who has volunteered with the group 'Second Chance', but that was before their founder unfortunately passed away about a year ago. It has moved around since then, trying to find a home, and last I heard they were being kicked out of their current location, so in essence they have too many bikes - so they would be an unlikely source to take bicycle-related donations.

Bikes Together is a good one, off of Osage St near Denver proper. There used to be a location in Park Hill as well called the Park Hill Bike Depot, that then also turned into a Bikes Together location, but I am not usually down there, so I don't know if it is still there.
 
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@Red Leader - I love seeing the Huskies. Way back in the day, I had an early 70's 250CR that the previous owner had converted to a WR. Did a ton of desert riding/racing and then spent $$$ to convert it back to a CR. I was working in a HD/Yamaha/Honda shop at the time and one of my vendors was looking for a WR tank. We traded so I got the small tank for free but had to buy all the transmission stuff. Motocrossed that version for a few years before selling it.

I loved that machine. Came with the big binder(s) full of service info and even a full physical conditioning program - Husqvarna officially approved.

They are my absolute favorite. I grew up watching On Any Sunday, and even though it wasn't my generation, I have a complete fondness for the era, and the ironclad warriors that rode these things. My dad one day came home with a '76 WR 250, and then we picked up a '76 CR 250 as a project for me, sort of got rebuilt, and tooled around on that thing for a good while. When they moved, they ended up getting rid of them, and if I had even a 1/4 of the sense I do now, I would have absolutely told him, 'I'LL TAKE THEM'...but live and learn!

I was going to pick up a local to me '72 WR, and drove the hour and a half to go look at it, with cash in my pocket, but the guy couldn't get it running even after the ad said 'runs great', and would not budge at all on price, so I walked away from it on principle. Probably would have been easy to get it running again, clean the carb, etc., but I said no.

Not a day goes by and I notice several ads by the same seller of some motorcycles in Missouri, who had these two listed. All in all, I was in them for less than the cost of that single bike, including the transport from MO to CO. However, these ones are in far rougher shape - both near engine teardowns, and that is my big hangup right now. I so badly want to be 'that guy' to rebuild the engines, but without the tools, time, or technical experience w/ these specific engines...it is hard. I don't want these projects to get away from me, and that is honestly some of the motivation behind getting the garage in order, so I can actually tackle projects like this.
 

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I completely get your love of those. I think mine was a 1972. That red & chrome tank is such a classic.

I felt that the Husky was my first "real" racer. Left side kickstarter took some learning. Maintenance also took some getting used to. Things like the taper shaft and left hand threads. First time I was planning on doing a slight rebuild, I went to the local dealer and asked for a head gasket. He tells me they don't have any. When will you get them? Never! I had to be schooled on lapping the head/cylinder surfaces. What a noob I was. :dunno:
 
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Didn't do much, but got about a 1/2 hour, so sorted through some things, threw some things out, carted some things away. Started vacuuming w/ the shop vac when I realized that the filter was clogged - tried to shake it out and it disintegrated. Time for a new filter!

Still a mess, the work continues. I might enlist ya'lls help some some tool musical chairs. Having a tough time finding a good spot for a few things. I suppose it will become more clear when the shop gets cleaner, but will definitely appreciate everyone's opinion on some things.

Also, a couple things the garage could desperately use is a small dust collector (one of the main reasons why the shop gets so dirty after a project), and some basic 2 or 4 tube led type lighting. I think I have T10 or T12 lighting in there, and about 3 out of the 4 ballasts are gone, and its probably just time to upgrade. I've got a cool idea, but I need some recommendations for a base light to work from. Let me know if you guys have had any luck with some solid lighting.
 

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Are you still on the text chain? I can put word out to the guys to keep an eye out for a DC.

You are a couple weeks ahead of me. Once school ends, garage clean out is going to go hard. I can "see" the finish line (distantly). Plan/hope is to have a get-together late July.
 

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I've used these lights from amazon a few times, they work well, can be hug with the chain or direct mounted, string as many together as you can handle.

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I've used these lights from amazon a few times, they work well, can be hug with the chain or direct mounted, string as many together as you can handle.

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Those are fine, and they work well. The improvement over conventional fluorescent lighting is startling.

Another option is to re-wire your existing fluorescent fixtures to accept LED tubes. This is what I did in my garage. The wiring part is simple, and it allows you to replace an LED tube, rather than having to replace an entire lighting fixture if one goes bad.
 
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Are you still on the text chain? I can put word out to the guys to keep an eye out for a DC.

You are a couple weeks ahead of me. Once school ends, garage clean out is going to go hard. I can "see" the finish line (distantly). Plan/hope is to have a get-together late July.

I know there is an email list, and I *think* I am still on it? I supposed I could make my own as well. Dust collection is something I've never had, but one of those things can totally see as being so good you don't realize how you made do without one. I appreciate the thoughts, and I have been out of the OWWM channel for years, but I'd be totally down for a get-together.
 
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I've used these lights from amazon a few times, they work well, can be hug with the chain or direct mounted, string as many together as you can handle.

JB

Thanks for the link! This is sort of what I'm thinking. Can these be hard-wired, or is the idea that you can plug/unplug them in at will?
 
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Those are fine, and they work well. The improvement over conventional fluorescent lighting is startling.

Another option is to re-wire your existing fluorescent fixtures to accept LED tubes. This is what I did in my garage. The wiring part is simple, and it allows you to replace an LED tube, rather than having to replace an entire lighting fixture if one goes bad.

Hmm, tell me more about this! I had sort of gone through the though process of an 'LED conversion' of sorts, but given that my ballasts are all nearly failed, I'm sort of wondering if it may be more trouble than it's worth, but I'd love to hear more.
 
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I just cut and paste my images directly into my posts.
That works fine for me.

And welcome back!

Thank you for having me back! It's amazing the level of projects I'm seeing on this site...just as with the garage, I feel like I'm playing major catchup with the amount of incredible garages on this website.
 
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Hmm, tell me more about this! I had sort of gone through the though process of an 'LED conversion' of sorts, but given that my ballasts are all nearly failed, I'm sort of wondering if it may be more trouble than it's worth, but I'd love to hear more.
When you covert to LED tubes you bypass the ballasts - they are not needed for LEDs. You re-wire the 'tombstones' (sockets) directly to 120V. You can leave the ballasts in place if you like, but I removed all of mine. Less weight on the ceiling, lol.
 

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Everyone I know seems to usd the Barrinas off Amazon. Thyre cheap, and only one tube but you can link them and get more even lighting across an area... And lower profile so they don't tKe up much space. I like to mount them to garage door tracks for example to illuminate the aisles that are on shadows when cars are pulled in.

I started with the 5K kelvin color and while it was great I immediately noticed in the evenings it woke me up and harder to get to sleep so I switched to 4K kelvin which has less blue light and didn't have that trouble anymore.

They do flicker like all cheap LEDs, but it's tolerable to me.
 

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Thank you for having me back! It's amazing the level of projects I'm seeing on this site...just as with the garage, I feel like I'm playing major catchup with the amount of incredible garages on this website.
I just looked. I joined in April of 2011. Started my Garage thread in May 2011. About the same time as yours.
But my garage build was much less intense than yours. And it remains that way.
I'm really looking forward to The Craftsman Garage 2.0
 
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I just looked. I joined in April of 2011. Started my Garage thread in May 2011. About the same time as yours.
But my garage build was much less intense than yours. And it remains that way.
I'm really looking forward to The Craftsman Garage 2.0

Thank you!

Mothers Day + being sick, I haven't updated in a few days, but the work has continued when I've had a moment here and there . Today will probably be a good day to list some things for sale, or for free, just to clear some room in the shop.

Thanks for following along, really appreciate it.
 
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When you covert to LED tubes you bypass the ballasts - they are not needed for LEDs. You re-wire the 'tombstones' (sockets) directly to 120V. You can leave the ballasts in place if you like, but I removed all of mine. Less weight on the ceiling, lol.

Everyone I know seems to usd the Barrinas off Amazon. Thyre cheap, and only one tube but you can link them and get more even lighting across an area... And lower profile so they don't tKe up much space. I like to mount them to garage door tracks for example to illuminate the aisles that are on shadows when cars are pulled in.

I started with the 5K kelvin color and while it was great I immediately noticed in the evenings it woke me up and harder to get to sleep so I switched to 4K kelvin which has less blue light and didn't have that trouble anymore.

They do flicker like all cheap LEDs, but it's tolerable to me.

They can be hardwired but you will still have a little pigtail from the connector at the light itself.

JB


Appreciate the thoughts on the lights, they will be one of the next upgrades that I do since it is SUPER dim out there when I'm working late at night in the shop.
 
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Here are some pictures showing the latest progress. I am switching up my two work cabinets by putting all the sprays, solvents, glues, lubricants, paint, etc., in the cabinet on the empty bay side, and then emptying the other one out for hand power tools, clamps, sandpaper, and the like.

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It’s also giving me a chance to go through each cabinet and get rid of either junk or things I havent used in a year+.


I also decided to continue on a small delayed project…stuff that has been bouncing around the shop for way too long…

This is the motor for my Craftsman/Emerson cabinet saw, and way back when I was cutting through a ton of really sappy pine and overworked the motor - the overload disc tripped. I took the motor apart and realized it needed bearings. Don’t worry, it’s only been at least 5 years!

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I don’t have a good bearing setter, so I will need to find something that works so I don’t mangle the bearing. The other one is in the end cap bell housing of the motor, and should pop out fairly easily.

Once I get it together, it will allow me to install this motor back on the saw and then put the original belt guard back on. Is it any wonder some of these small accessories became so rare when they got separated from their tools by others like me?? Feeling a bit silly about the whole thing.
 
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Also finally got a new filter for the shop vac so I could clean up corner of the shop, like this one…

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Also cleaned up the fridge for a sale/donate -

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This one is also going to be going away -

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Runs just fine…

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Here’s the shop right now. Still doesn’t present super well, but it is getting WAY cleaner. Some of the things that haven’t been helping are like, I dunno, maybe the piano in the garage haha.

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Welder will be going away as well -

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For those of you with a two-wheeled interest, a little misadventure here.

While I hadn’t posted updates on the garage for the longest time on this website, I was active on another forum and quite busy in the shop for a while. Here is a project I took on in 2023 that sort of took on a life of it’s own.

It’s not for the faint of heart. Read only if you have serious life problems!:lol:

 
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You mean you don't have one in yours??


Haha, so that was our first grand piano, a basic old one we picked up off Craigslist when the kids were getting started on lessons and we needed something a little more serious.

Well, turns out our son really took to it, and has been playing for several years now, classically trained. The action on that piano was far too heavy, and to get a piano rebuilt is thousands and thousands of dollars (worth it, mind you, for the right instrument). So now we have a different one, and this one either needs to be sold (for super cheap) or donated.

There are a lot of older pianos, like this one, that you can find on craigslist or fb marketplace. Most are either junk or need a complete rebuild (new pinblock, pins, strings, bridge cap, hammers, felts, bushings, action regulation, etc). This one actually has a perfect soundboard and bridge, and I think the pinblock is fine as we never had an issue with tuning. So the biggest costs to a rebuild are actually a non-issue on this one, mainly just the strings and action. It would need new bass strings at the very least, and new hammers w/ a complete action reconditioning. All that work would probably be a minimum of $5k, and on a 4ft 10in piano, it is a tough sell because a piano that short is already making so many compromises. This one actually did sound pretty nice, but he needs something that is a more direct translation to some of the conservatory grands that he gets on.

Hence...it is in the garage(y):lol:
 

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So what did you go with instead for inside the house? I am in the same boat with a worn out miniature grand and kids who are more into it than expected so needing a better piano... But a bit overwhelmed by the options, especially as a guy who hates buying brand new anything.
 

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The little "dust-stopper" lids for 5gal buckets have been a game-changer for smaller vacs for me. Same idea as a Dust deputy, but much flatter (Thein baffle effect, but pre-molded to snap on to a bucket).
 
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So what did you go with instead for inside the house? I am in the same boat with a worn out miniature grand and kids who are more into it than expected so needing a better piano... But a bit overwhelmed by the options, especially as a guy who hates buying brand new anything.

Wow, sorry for the late reply!!! For us, the biggest thing was the action. We didn't know anything about grands, so we just went w/ something old and cheap, but that came with a heavy action which ended up starting to hurt his fingers, so it was imperative to get something different. Actually, many old pianos actually become lighter to play, since the hammer felt gets worn away, and the action parts (felt bushings, etc) become worn and looser. YMMV.

We ended up w/ a Baldwin M, which we will also need to change up, because that one does have truly too light an action for him now (a bit of a pendulum swing too far). We (erm, I mean, he) has played dozens and dozens of pianos...including some of the absolutely nicest pianos on earth...tons of Steinways, Bechsteins, Mason & Hamlins, Bosendorfers, Shigeru Kawais, even a Fazioli!

His absolute favorite out of all of them are the Estonias, which are a really wonderful 'European' piano brand, meaning very musical and singing. We've heard a couple of L210s and an L190 that had just a mesmerizing, heavenly tone, and they have Renner actions as well. They are a bargain next to a used or even slightly new Steinway, but $30-50k ain't nothing to shake a stick at.

We haven't really liked the Masons we've played, oddly enough. They sound brawny (not bad), but it's just not our preference, and most of the one's I've seen are either poor rebuilds or built during rough times for them (70s-90s). Didn't care much for the restored Bechsteins, either. The new ones may be a different animal. Haven't tried a Bluthner. Schimmels, Grotrians, all nice European pianos to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

I really love the older Baldwins (60s-80s) for their sound and bang-for-the-buck, but the issue is that his piano teacher (who is very good), doesn't like them at all. She favors Yamaha, and we've played some nice ones as well, but finding one without a 'too bright' or harsh tone (for us) can take some time. Her primary concern is the playability, and she's not wrong from the aspect that any 40 year old piano is going to need a total action overhaul.

My perspective is that a nice Baldwin R or L from their golden era is going to be so cheap, that you can get it, replace the bass strings and either rebuild the action w/ Renner parts (and new hammers/shanks) or simply replace the action w/ a WNG composite action and basically be at or under the $$ for a new entry level piano and you now have something way better. An R or L that is in good condition is probably going to be just fine in the pinblock and soundboard dept.

If the piano is going into the home, a 5'2" - 5'10" is probably going to be your best bet, with the latter probably bridging the gap between tone and volume. Too short and the sound in the bass is compromised, but too big, and it can impair a player w/ the volume. 5'6"-5'8" is the goldilocks size.
If size is not a problem for you, then a used Baldwin SF-10 or older Kawai GS-30 are some of the best in the world for the price you can get them for. A smart way to do it would be to find one that has been recently and expertly overhauled in the strings/action dept, because that labor is expensive up front, but cheap 2nd hand.

Right now, we are cautiously looking for either a Japanese Kawai or Yamaha C series (probably a C1 or C2), but secretly hoping for a used Estonia to pop up. If it were up to me, I would get a 60s-70s Balwin R or even an L (better scale design) as a 'core' piano as long as the soundboard, bridge and pinblock checked out, and then have a tech rebuilt it w/ new strings, agraffes, and rebuild the action to whatever we want/need. I'd hear a resounding NO from the piano teacher, and right now we don't have a trusted tech, so that is probably not the route, at least for now...ha!

I know this is probably way more than you wanted, but there you go. If you price range is under 15k, a top tier smaller used piano that has been recently serviced would be the ticket.

This right here is my jam, and it sold for less than a brand new 5' budget piano that we've been recommended:

 
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Wow, sorry for the late reply!!! For us, the biggest thing was the action. We didn't know anything about grands, so we just went w/ something old and cheap, but that came with a heavy action which ended up starting to hurt his fingers, so it was imperative to get something different. Actually, many old pianos actually become lighter to play, since the hammer felt gets worn away, and the action parts (felt bushings, etc) become worn and looser. YMMV.

We ended up w/ a Baldwin M, which we will also need to change up, because that one does have truly too light an action for him now (a bit of a pendulum swing too far). We (erm, I mean, he) has played dozens and dozens of pianos...including some of the absolutely nicest pianos on earth...tons of Steinways, Bechsteins, Mason & Hamlins, Bosendorfers, Shigeru Kawais, even a Fazioli!

His absolute favorite out of all of them are the Estonias, which are a really wonderful 'European' piano brand, meaning very musical and singing. We've heard a couple of L210s and an L190 that had just a mesmerizing, heavenly tone, and they have Renner actions as well. They are a bargain next to a used or even slightly new Steinway, but $30-50k ain't nothing to shake a stick at.

We haven't really liked the Masons we've played, oddly enough. They sound brawny (not bad), but it's just not our preference, and most of the one's I've seen are either poor rebuilds or built during rough times for them (70s-90s). Didn't care much for the restored Bechsteins, either. The new ones may be a different animal. Haven't tried a Bluthner. Schimmels, Grotrians, all nice European pianos to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

I really love the older Baldwins (60s-80s) for their sound and bang-for-the-buck, but the issue is that his piano teacher (who is very good), doesn't like them at all. She favors Yamaha, and we've played some nice ones as well, but finding one without a 'too bright' or harsh tone (for us) can take some time. Her primary concern is the playability, and she's not wrong from the aspect that any 40 year old piano is going to need a total action overhaul.

My perspective is that a nice Baldwin R or L from their golden era is going to be so cheap, that you can get it, replace the bass strings and either rebuild the action w/ Renner parts (and new hammers/shanks) or simply replace the action w/ a WNG composite action and basically be at or under the $$ for a new entry level piano and you now have something way better. An R or L that is in good condition is probably going to be just fine in the pinblock and soundboard dept.

If the piano is going into the home, a 5'2" - 5'10" is probably going to be your best bet, with the latter probably bridging the gap between tone and volume. Too short and the sound in the bass is compromised, but too big, and it can impair a player w/ the volume. 5'6"-5'8" is the goldilocks size.
If size is not a problem for you, then a used Baldwin SF-10 or older Kawai GS-30 are some of the best in the world for the price you can get them for. A smart way to do it would be to find one that has been recently and expertly overhauled in the strings/action dept, because that labor is expensive up front, but cheap 2nd hand.

Right now, we are cautiously looking for either a Japanese Kawai or Yamaha C series (probably a C1 or C2), but secretly hoping for a used Estonia to pop up. If it were up to me, I would get a 60s-70s Balwin R or even an L (better scale design) as a 'core' piano as long as the soundboard, bridge and pinblock checked out, and then have a tech rebuilt it w/ new strings, agraffes, and rebuild the action to whatever we want/need. I'd hear a resounding NO from the piano teacher, and right now we don't have a trusted tech, so that is probably not the route, at least for now...ha!

I know this is probably way more than you wanted, but there you go. If you price range is under 15k, a top tier smaller used piano that has been recently serviced would be the ticket.

This right here is my jam, and it sold for less than a brand new 5' budget piano that we've been recommended:

I have a 1982 Baldwin model R and absolutely love it. Great piano, great feel and great sound! A yamaha C3 is a great one, but I didn't want to spend that much... I got a really good deal on the baldwin about 15 years ago.
 
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